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#1
so i asked the pit, big mistake . everyone who replied (90%) was a douchebag, can anyone explain how to like, get the style of metalcore and how to write original songs while being in the genre?
#2
go buy the album At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul. try to take those riffs and change them around

and play 5-7-8 on the A and D strings a lot in between chugs

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#4
Tune to Drop C

Play recycled riffs from all metalcore bands

mix in pinch harmonics and sweep solos

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#6
in all seriousness dude, that's about what it is. metalcore is very contrived and very few bands do it with originality. pretty much if you werent around when it started 10 or so years ago, your probably not gonna be 'original'.

i believe in your pit thread you said you like that style of music? just write riffs in the vein of some of the bands. The Black Dahlia Murder (i consider them -core), Shadows Fall, All That Remains and Killswitch Engage are the only -core bands i really like and theyre basically what ill descrie.

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go buy the album At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul. try to take those riffs and change them around

and play 5-7-8 on the A and D strings a lot in between chugs

all serious answers


this man is right. listen to Slaughter of The Soul, then A Celebration of Guilt by Arsis, then Heartwork by Carcass and then for good measure Day Into Night by Quo Vadis. metalcore is 80% that formula, with fast verses (around the 5-7-8 frets on A+D strings) then a melodic sung chorus, repeat, breakdown, etc etc. they took massive inspiration form AtG and Carcass or whoever and then made it unique. problem is, it isn't unique anymore. good luck with your project, tho.
#9
ok, if you dont know how to play metalcore, you either dont even listen to it or you are trying to play in a band that you dont actually like.

ill say this again,if you wanted to be in a metalcore band because its cool, this is exactly something you would be asking. If you like the genre actually, you will have noticed how guitars are written, and you wouldn't need to ask for help

its not like you decide, OMGZ, today im gonna be in a metalcore band. play what you like.
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#10
Listen to metalcore bands and listen to how they structure songs. also learn a couple of your fav metalcore songs and see how their riffs are written. Then put your our twist on everything you heard. Exactly the same as playing any other music.

I agree with the guy above me, play what you love. If you just want to play it because it's all the rave and your band might get a couple of shows out of it, don't even try.
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#11
Learn your minor scales
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#12
Metalcore has been sucked dry completely, don't bother with it.
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#13
learn how to play open string chords PALM MUTED. ha, betcha cant play that.

lol, really, just play alot of songs with at-the-gates-ish riffs with the fast alternate picking stuff
#14
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Learn your minor scales


+1

go out of the box and make technical stuff. ABR is one of my favorites for inspirations when writing that stuff
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#15
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im talking about being original


I thought you said you wanted to play metalcore, since when do 'original' and 'metalcore' have anything to do with each other.

Either rip-off Slayer riffs, or rip-off Carcass or At The Gates, then add some judjuds.
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#16
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ok, if you dont know how to play metalcore, you either dont even listen to it or you are trying to play in a band that you dont actually like.

ill say this again,if you wanted to be in a metalcore band because its cool, this is exactly something you would be asking. If you like the genre actually, you will have noticed how guitars are written, and you wouldn't need to ask for help

its not like you decide, OMGZ, today im gonna be in a metalcore band. play what you like.

i DO listen to metalcore ^o)
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start ripping off old 90's metalcore bands.


Good idea


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#22
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start ripping off old 90's metalcore bands.


Or at the very least, don't be metal + metal + a little bit more metal and claiming to have anything to do with hardcore.
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#24
don't listen to metalcore for a month, and only listen to other types of music. then when you write in the style you won't be preoccupied with trying to sound like every other band, and you'll end up with (drumroll...) original metalcore!

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#25
the vast majority of metalcore has the same song structure:

intro (often clean)
verse
chorus
verse
chorus
breakdown
chorus
outro

this is your basic framework. to make something original experiment with where you put what e.g. columbian necktie - IKTPQ has the breakdown at the beginning. Eradication - All Shall Perish has solos over the breakdown etc etc

i would admit that originality is difficult in this field. try and have something that makes you stand out from the rest. winds of plague for example have a lot of very melodic power metal-esque keyboards that add a different depth to their sound. just experiment with it.

as far as techniques go a tight right hand, some minor scales, artificial harmonics and fast alternate picking will help you a lot. i like to write lots of melody with tap as well and am quite into natural harmonics at the moment, but whatever floats your boat really. most importantly if you're writing stuff, if you can't remember it, then neither will anyone else. oh, and have fun
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#26
well, not really that structure =)
intro
verse
chorus
breakdown
breakdown
breakdown
something with blastbeats
chorus
breakdown
long powerchord on open strings
breakdown
one more breakdown
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I thought metalcore doesn't stick to the normal song structure?


Good metalcore doesn't.
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#29
The reason you didn't get a good answer is because your question is stupid. I guess there is such a thing. You cannot describe how to play metalcore. Everyone has their own opinion.
#30
I don't understand why you'd want to stick to a genre tbh... just write music you think sounds good, regardless of it's genre... it'll save you a lot of agony.

And Metalcore basically means metal with hardcore elements... so just steal this idea: hardcore punk with slightly more emphasis on metallic riffs and double kick drums wit Iron Maiden or Judas Priest-esque vocals. That late '70s/early '80s type vocal. Don't think anyone sounds like that.


Although if you aren't extremely careful it might suck very hard.


But like I said, write what you think sounds good and don't think about the genre. It'll be so much easier.
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the vast majority of metalcore has the same song structure:

intro (often clean)
verse
chorus
verse
chorus
breakdown
chorus
outro

Eradication - All Shall Perish has solos over the breakdown etc etc


All Shall Perish hardly fits the 'formula' you described. Their songs rarely have repeated verses or choruses.

Although they do have a ton of breakdowns. But they do them way better than every other metalcore band. And I don't even consider them metalcore.
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#34
I don't believe in metalcore.

It's either metal or hardcore. Simple as that.

Just because some idiot says its' not metal doesn't make it metalcore.

If its not punky(or thrash I guess), its probably metal.
#35
Listen to Between the Buried and Me, they will give you a big idea of how to write 'original' riffs
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#36
single note runs and generic breakdowns

also, don't play metalcore that ****'s played out.

seriously

stop being trendy

seriously.
#37
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pretty much like, kinda not copy there style but take inspiration from it?:S

how in the hell do you expect us to tell you how to be inspired?
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#38
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I don't believe in metalcore.


The difference between metalcore and god is I can prove metalcore exists.
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#39
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And Metalcore basically means metal with hardcore elements...

wrong. metalcore is hardore with some metal riffs, not metal with breakdowns
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#40
I'd recommend listening to The Fall Of Troy, not metalcore but good inspiration and The Human Abstract.
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