#1
We are learning about it in English class, and my teacher said that there is one major flaw to it. He won't tell us what it is and we have a quiz coming up on it. So does anybody know what the major flaw in existentialism is?
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#3
What kind of idiot is your English teacher? That is an extremely vague question.
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that it doesn't happen to everyone?
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#5
I don't know. He seems smart, but I really don't like him. He is really arogant.
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#6
If someone is ultimately free, why search for authenticity? Like Ulyart said, there is no true self, no ultimate truth. But when the existentialist learns of this, he still needs and desires for it. Okay, the existentialist says, everythings meaningless but now my project in life is to live in this meaningless world basing my life on freedom. Thus, the existentialist will live his life out questioning and doubting ad infinitum trying pointlessly to live within the grounds of freedom.

Also, if existence was as bleak and pointless as existentialists suggest, if it is so devoid of meaning, then why do they bother articulating existentialism? Surely by their very definition, it doesn’t matter whether people realize it or not.
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I don't know. He seems smart, but I really don't like him. He is really arogant.


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We are learning about it in English class, and my teacher said that there is one major flaw to it. He won't tell us what it is and we have a quiz coming up on it. So does anybody know what the major flaw in existentialism is?


Which ones did he list? It's odd cause i started this too yesterday in English.
Someone plunged a dagger deep into God's chest and
When he groaned it laid our entire civilization to rest
When he pulled out the dagger and marveled at the pain he could create
We stuck another in his back to seal creation's fate
#9
I would say the flaw, at least from reading Emerson, is that he preaches non-conformism, which is kind of a contradiction in itself. Any philosophy that says you should try to be an individual or go against societal norms is basically smacking itself in the face as soon as people start to follow it, because of the contradiction. Nihilism is probably the best example of that.

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#11
the flaw is that if youre feeling existential, you're probably a douchebag.
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I would say the flaw, at least from reading Emerson, is that he preaches non-conformism, which is kind of a contradiction in itself. Any philosophy that says you should try to be an individual or go against societal norms is basically smacking itself in the face as soon as people start to follow it, because of the contradiction. Nihilism is probably the best example of that.

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Emerson is transcendentalism actually...but yeah, I see your point.
I think with this point though, they are not trying to get people to follow them, but take their example. Emerson does not say, 'be yourself, and being yourself doing as i do' he says 'be yourself, and do whatever this drives you to do'

but i think cynoxx is on to it.
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Emerson is transcendentalism actually...but yeah, I see your point.
I think with this point though, they are not trying to get people to follow them, but take their example. Emerson does not say, 'be yourself, and being yourself doing as i do' he says 'be yourself, and do whatever this drives you to do'

but i think cynoxx is on to it.


Oh man, I'm an idiot. I don't know why I read that wrong, haha.


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If someone is ultimately free, why search for authenticity? Like Ulyart said, there is no true self, no ultimate truth. But when the existentialist learns of this, he still needs and desires for it. Okay, the existentialist says, everythings meaningless but now my project in life is to live in this meaningless world basing my life on freedom. Thus, the existentialist will live his life out questioning and doubting ad infinitum trying pointlessly to live within the grounds of freedom.

Also, if existence was as bleak and pointless as existentialists suggest, if it is so devoid of meaning, then why do they bother articulating existentialism? Surely by their very definition, it doesn’t matter whether people realize it or not.


They say that there is no meaning. So how can we believe is existentialism.
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#17
"Notes from Underground" by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Read it and enjoy, existentialism in a nutshell through the mind of a nihilistic paradoxylist (the main character, the Underground Man).
#18
There's not a "flaw" with Existencialism.

Maybe he said the term wrong or something?

In any case, have these questions in your head if you are learning about it, maybe ask yourself truly these questions...

Do we exist?
Are we free to make our own decisions?
Are we in control of our life?
If we are going to die, it will cause anguish?
Do we have a meaning of existence?
Whats the purpouse of this life?
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#19
Notes from Underground is a good read, I wish we did this in English (Instead of "Emma"- the book is nothing! It's a series of rooms and a series of rich people from a time long dead talking about things that have no relevance! Urgh)

I'll try and explain what I think your teacher wants to hear- Existentialism- there is no meaning or anything, no higher truth. The things we do are just little projects to try and create some meaning (Why do we bother with life if there's no meaning? Why do we do things, why do want to get married, have kids etc etc when there's no point at all?)

But if you believe Existentialism then you see how futile these actions are- but most of us just carry on doing it anyway, despite this "knowledge" that we mustn't really innately believe despite being rational.
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the flaw is that if youre feeling existential, you're probably a douchebag.

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#21
I'm not really familiar with existentialism, but doesn't it avoid practical questions of ethics and morals?
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