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Berlioz97
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#1
what are your thoughts on them?
i got into it with the guy who runs their myspace and shut him up when i told him his whole site was run by the Democrats.......and that his encouraging voters to write in mickey mouse was a contradiction of what his site's supposed "mission" was to inform youth voters and have the punk subculture vote as a bloc.....
which failed because not all punks are Democrats like Fat Mike hoped they were....

but that's just my opinion....
what does everyone else think of that site?

btw conservativepunk.com sucks.....its really lame....pro status quo punk rock, funny funny....
whyvern
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#2
Hey Garth! Long time no talk dude.

I'm not a fan of punkvoter or voting at all. Sure I voted for Obama, but do I think it will really change anything? Not really. I just wanted to piss off all the racists and tell them "I voted for ****** to do a white man's job"
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Punk_Rape92
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#3
Meh i don't like how a lot of bands jump on the pollitical band wagon. Im dont know much about politics so i stay away from the subject.
sargasm
1977 and we are going mad
Join date: May 2003
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#4
The vote changes nothing.

I voted NDP even though I knew it wouldn't make a difference because I refuse to vote liberal out of principal. They're just Conservatives pretending to be socialists and they won't change anything.

That's Canadian politics, btw.

But yeah, voting is depressing and pointless but I do it anyway. It's the best we have so far, and it's not like it's hard.
sargasm
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#6
80% of this thread is mad oldschool

Just figured I'd point that out.
BrianApocalypse
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#7
Quote by FuzzyBear
its worth voting in the UK just to stop the BNP getting seats


It's too late... the BNP took my baby away
lavazza
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#8
Quote by sargasm
The vote changes nothing.

I voted NDP even though I knew it wouldn't make a difference because I refuse to vote liberal out of principal. They're just Conservatives pretending to be socialists and they won't change anything.

That's Canadian politics, btw.

But yeah, voting is depressing and pointless but I do it anyway. It's the best we have so far, and it's not like it's hard.


Puh....I first thought it was "NPD" that´s ther German Nazi Party
Iluvpowerchords
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#9
I'm voting Nader.

He isn't blatantly serving a corporate master and it pisses off the Democrats.

I win either way.
sargasm
1977 and we are going mad
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#10
Quote by lavazza
Puh....I first thought it was "NPD" that´s ther German Nazi Party


Nah, they're the hippie commie socialist party that will never win.
Berlioz97
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#12
i voted for Ron Paul and punkvoter told me not to vote for him because he opposes "publicly funded abortion and all that good rot" funny how one issue can turn an entire voting bloc off to a candidate.....
RockThe40oz
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#13
Quote by Berlioz97
i voted for Ron Paul and punkvoter told me not to vote for him because he opposes "publicly funded abortion and all that good rot" funny how one issue can turn an entire voting bloc off to a candidate.....


It's not even an issue that turns them off.. it's the party... They basically say that if you're not democrat, you're not punk. Then they try to cover it up and say "well, we know democrats aren't great, but they're better than racist redneck republican gay basher bible thumpers!"

fuck PunkVoter
Berlioz97
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#14
seriously. i registered Republican despite my longstanding prejudices towards them to vote for Ron Paul (here we have to register Rep. to vote in their primary)

Democrats are even less punk than the GOP if you look at it. Huge government? I mean the GOP is a crock of **** too, but really....the Democrats have spent that last 11 months trying to prevent a black man from being their nominee, how racist is that? Obama is a good man, he should have won a long time ago....I don't agree with him on everything, but seriously....

I've come to realise that the punk subculture has been hijacked and turned into the youth wing of the democratic party. what every happened to "anarchy"?
lolmnt
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#15
Quote by Iluvpowerchords
I'm voting Nader.

He isn't blatantly serving a corporate master and it pisses off the Democrats.

I win either way.
If Hillary wins, I'm considering voting for him
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SuperBlob
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#16
I'm voting Captain Sensible. Hell yeah.

You don't have any punks in political places over there do you? DO YOU?!
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whyvern
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#17
Quote by Berlioz97
seriously. i registered Republican despite my longstanding prejudices towards them to vote for Ron Paul (here we have to register Rep. to vote in their primary)

Democrats are even less punk than the GOP if you look at it. Huge government? I mean the GOP is a crock of **** too, but really....the Democrats have spent that last 11 months trying to prevent a black man from being their nominee, how racist is that? Obama is a good man, he should have won a long time ago....I don't agree with him on everything, but seriously....

I've come to realise that the punk subculture has been hijacked and turned into the youth wing of the democratic party. what every happened to "anarchy"?



Ron Paul is such a terrible choice dude. He's pro-corporate and all about de-regulating the economy and letting the evils of capitalism take their course. Most punks still believe in anarchy and Ron Paul is the furthest thing from it. We're still out there and still fighting. Please don't give yer vote to that anti-woman, pro-family (read, pro-christian), pro-corporation and anti-poor dude. He's not gonna help anything. But he can't even get elected dude, the neocons are not gonna be about it at all and they're the ones in control (the run the WTO, World Bank and set the agendas for those organizations). Conservatism never does anything good, unless you're a millionaire (like Ron Paul).
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original=punk
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#18
Quote by sargasm
Nah, they're the hippie commie socialist party that will never win.



They have a better chance of winning than the Green party.

And if I had to vote, in the previous Ontario election, I would have voted for the Liberal party, Mr Mcguintey knows my needs. First impressions are important and left one on me. Believes in piblic schools. **** the catholic school system.

What is this punkvoter thing?
crustyreed
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#20
Quote by DanRev
Im voting for George bush lol


seriously if i had a band together now.
on our tshirts we would of picture of george and under it write ''LOVE'' itd be so sarcastically awesome.
sargasm
1977 and we are going mad
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#21
Quote by original=punk
They have a better chance of winning than the Green party.

And if I had to vote, in the previous Ontario election, I would have voted for the Liberal party, Mr Mcguintey knows my needs. First impressions are important and left one on me. Believes in piblic schools. **** the catholic school system.

What is this punkvoter thing?


Punkvoter is something I haven't heard about in years. It was a big thing when NOFX were relevant and some people still liked bush.

My friend who lives in ottawa was telling me that public vs. private schools was the big issue for the election in Ontario. I think that's awesome. Alberta is so messed up that there's tons of serious issues, and getting rid of the theocratic indoctrination process that is the catholic school system isn't even on the agenda. We have to fix everything else first. Ontario's good enough that you can worry about stuff like that.

Abolishing the catholic school system, and private schools in general would be an awesome step forward.
original=punk
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#22
Quote by sargasm
Punkvoter is something I haven't heard about in years. It was a big thing when NOFX were relevant and some people still liked bush.

My friend who lives in ottawa was telling me that public vs. private schools was the big issue for the election in Ontario. I think that's awesome. Alberta is so messed up that there's tons of serious issues, and getting rid of the theocratic indoctrination process that is the catholic school system isn't even on the agenda. We have to fix everything else first. Ontario's good enough that you can worry about stuff like that.

Abolishing the catholic school system, and private schools in general would be an awesome step forward.


Well, abolishing private religious schools isn't the problem. It's getting rid of the governent funding of catholic schools. Ontario is the only province left that still doesn't realize segregation is bad.

And so is this punkvoter thing like an uber democrat Fat mike thing?
Joe-Fish
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#23
I've never heard of this punkvoter thing. To be honest I don't think I know enough about the candidates to make a knowledgeable choice. If I did have a choice though, it would be Barack Obama.
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sargasm
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#24
Quote by original=punk
Well, abolishing private religious schools isn't the problem. It's getting rid of the governent funding of catholic schools. Ontario is the only province left that still doesn't realize segregation is bad.

And so is this punkvoter thing like an uber democrat Fat mike thing?


Really? I didn't realize that catholic schools didn't have public funding here. That's silly.

I honestly would like to have the entire idea of private schools done away with altogether, but I guess some parents will never want their money loving little kids mingling with godless heretics like me. Tsk.

And yeah, that's pretty much what punkvoter is.
mike2
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#25
in america private schools don't get funding either...
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He doesn't sound like Opie from family guy at all.
original=punk
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#26
Quote by sargasm
Really? I didn't realize that catholic schools didn't have public funding here. That's silly.

I honestly would like to have the entire idea of private schools done away with altogether, but I guess some parents will never want their money loving little kids mingling with godless heretics like me. Tsk.

And yeah, that's pretty much what punkvoter is.


Yeah it's strange. Should be done away with altogether. I think people should decide to follow a religion by studying on their own time. If they don't wanna follow someone else's rules, they can go on personal faith.
werty22
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#27
Quote by mike2
in america private schools don't get funding either...

It seems like funding them would make them not private. Isn't that part of the definition of a private school?
recklessnick
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#28
im not american. but if i were and if punkvoter was against a conservative government then yeah i would support it
sargasm
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#29
Quote by recklessnick
im not american. but if i were and if punkvoter was against a conservative government then yeah i would support it


It's against the republican party, which is inherently conservative, but also very much in favor of the democratic party which isn't much better.

Of course, it's a step up from being pro-republican, but not a huge step.
Berlioz97
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#30
Quote by whyvern
Ron Paul is such a terrible choice dude. He's pro-corporate and all about de-regulating the economy and letting the evils of capitalism take their course. Most punks still believe in anarchy and Ron Paul is the furthest thing from it. We're still out there and still fighting. Please don't give yer vote to that anti-woman, pro-family (read, pro-christian), pro-corporation and anti-poor dude. He's not gonna help anything. But he can't even get elected dude, the neocons are not gonna be about it at all and they're the ones in control (the run the WTO, World Bank and set the agendas for those organizations). Conservatism never does anything good, unless you're a millionaire (like Ron Paul).


1. I am pro life (abortion has many many alternatives which are never discussed by Dems. for example - CONDOMS! THE PILL! THE MORNING AFTER PILL! Adoption? Federally funding legal abortions is simply an expirement in eugenics under the guise of personal choice, the reduction of the poor and minority populations...)
2. I am pro religious freedom (believe in whatever religion you want as long as you do not interfere with my right to do the same)
3. I am pro 2nd amendment (no guns, means no way to defend yourself against home invaders, etc. Criminals will always have guns, thats why they are criminals, what will we have? The police?)
4. Ron Paul is the candidate closest to "anarchy" we will ever see. He supports the dismantling of the Federal Government to a fraction of its current size. Although I do not agree 100% with Conservatism, you have to see that the over-regulation of the business sector simply leads to those costs being passed on to the consumer and a reduction in the wages of those who work for those businesses...that is, YOU AND ME!

I did my research before I voted for him. Believe me, I had my heart set on Obama or even remotely Clinton....(that changed quickly...) at first. But I looked Ron Paul up and his theories on things are much more sound than people give him credit for.
Fiscal conservatism is the tough thing to do. And believe me it was tough for me to even consider voting for a Republican....but it just...made sense.
I'm all for a government providing universal health care, but that's not a priority to me since I am low income and on medicaid anyway...
FuzzyBear
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#31
Quote by Berlioz97
1. I am pro life (abortion has many many alternatives which are never discussed by Dems. for example - CONDOMS! THE PILL! THE MORNING AFTER PILL! Adoption? Federally funding legal abortions is simply an expirement in eugenics under the guise of personal choice, the reduction of the poor and minority populations...)



condom, the pill & the morning afterpill are all contraceptives, not alternatives for abortion, by the time your pregnant its abit late for any of them to help
Joe-Fish
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#32
I guess I'm anything but punx when it comes to stuff to stuff like this.

I'm Pro-Choice but I'd never want my girlfriend to get an abortion nor would I ever want someone else to but it's their choice. It's a personal thing, not religious at all.

I also believe our 2nd amendment rights should stay. There's tons of hunters in town, and if not for them, the deer population would grow WAY too big and most of the hunters will eat the whole animal and give different parts to friends and such. I just think guns should be more regulated. Having to go through a course to make sure you're good with guns and all that.
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lavazza
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#33
Quote by Berlioz97

3. I am pro 2nd amendment (no guns, means no way to defend yourself against home invaders, etc. Criminals will always have guns, thats why they are criminals, what will we have? The police?)


You cannot see me as the most reliable person for the American society and the market for arms, but in Germany not every household has it´s own gun cabinet and we still can sleep quietly. The argument of being able to defend yourself is stupid, really, or are there always gangs who try to invade your house? If yes it rather underlines your status as a banana republic, then the UN should send troops to Fresno and not to Congo.
Every year there are thousands of people shot down in the USA, but just really few in countries like France or Germany or Canada (this argument is from Michael Moore, so it´s not so reliable, but it has a true core).
Your right to carry a gun with you is (from the outside) a really big problem and you should do everything to get it prohibited!

And the argument that the population of animals woudl explode is stupid too, because I don´t know any country in the whole world which has problems with getting some animals away.
RockThe40oz
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#34
Gun Debate.. my $0.02

I agree.. if guns were completely banned, we'd have less violence.

Unfortunately, what most outsiders don't realize... We have entirely too many people in this country. We have entirely too many guns in this country. Trying to get back all of those guns would be a complete fiasco and would never work. We'd end up with all the law-abiding citizens turning in their guns while all the criminals and thugs kept their guns secret. It's just not feasible in any sense.

That being said, there needs to be stricter background checks and crack down on mental health issues... the negligence of documented mental health issues is what let some nutjob piece of shit kill 32 people at my school with guns he legally purchased despite noted mental issues.
axeslash
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#35
Quote by sargasm
It's against the republican party, which is inherently conservative, but also very much in favor of the democratic party which isn't much better.

Of course, it's a step up from being pro-republican, but not a huge step.

There really isn't any difference between the Republican and Democrat parties. They're both going to lie, they're both in it for their own interests, and they are all rich mother****ers who don't care about the middle class.

I'm gonna vote Nader out of principle.
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Iluvpowerchords
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#36
I love the second amendment.

Tons of irrational paranoid assholes who are convinced the world is out to get them and someone is going to enter their house just end up killing themselves or a family member because of their stupidity.

And you know what, if they want to risk that, I'm not gonna complain. They're just exercising their rights. I'm not opposed to that freedom. Really. I like to ride motorcycles without helmets and speed when I'm driving.

But for ****s sake these paranoid people don't seem to realize that any house burglar worth his salt doesn't break into a house when there are people in it.

That's just bad thievery.
sargasm
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#37
I'm a fan of the second amendment

lavazza
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#39
Quote by RockThe40oz
Gun Debate.. my $0.02

I agree.. if guns were completely banned, we'd have less violence.

Unfortunately, what most outsiders don't realize... We have entirely too many people in this country. We have entirely too many guns in this country. Trying to get back all of those guns would be a complete fiasco and would never work. We'd end up with all the law-abiding citizens turning in their guns while all the criminals and thugs kept their guns secret. It's just not feasible in any sense.


What about stopping to sell weapons?
RockThe40oz
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#40
Quote by lavazza
What about stopping to sell weapons?


You'd never stop gun shows. Hell, they can't even get gun shows to do sufficient background checks or stick with the law prohibiting the sale of handguns to people under the age of 21.