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#1
I was never really able to do a side by side comparison with EMG's until today.

I bought a EC-1000 w/ Duncan pups and I was comparing it to my Jackson, while running it through my Framus. The cleans on the Duncan '59 is so much warmer and smoother, abd clean wise it blows the 60 out of the water. Then I compared them (JB v. 81) on the gain channel. And boy was I surprised. The Duncan sounds so much fatter and tighter then my EMG. It also has a certain grittiness to its sound. Almost like a pronounced crunch. I really prefer the tone of the Duncans. They are both similarly priced guitars, so quality should not be the biggest deal (wood and such).

So what does UG think? Are EMG's really overrated for metal?
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Yes yes they are!

A reason would be nice.
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#4
definetlly they arnt bad pickups but there are soo much better ones i find emgs to sound too ffizzy sounding most of the time
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#5
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A reason would be nice.



1)Most all metal bands use them
2)Metal is the one thing they excel at
3)They can overdrive Tube Amps for more gain
4)There compressed a little and have a really tight attack to them
5)They can chug and growl like a demon
6)Look smooth as hell
7)I've played and compared alot of pickups and these take the cake for metal
#6
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I was never really able to do a side by side comparison with EMG's until today.

I bought a EC-1000 w/ Duncan pups and I was comparing it to my Jackson, while running it through my Framus. The cleans on the Duncan JB is so much warmer and smoother, abd clean wise it blows the 60 out of the water. Then I compared them (59 v. 81) on the gain channel. And boy was I surprised. The Duncan sounds so much fatter and tighter then my EMG. It also has a certain grittiness to its sound. Almost like a pronounced crunch. I really prefer the tone of the Duncans. They are both similarly priced guitars, so quality should not be the biggest deal (wood and such).

Wait, so you compared the bridge PU of one guitar with the neck PU of another?
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1)Most all metal bands use them
2)Metal is the one thing they excel at
3)They can overdrive Tube Amps for more gain
4)There compressed a little and have a really tight attack to them
5)They can chug and growl like a demon
6)Look smooth as hell
7)I've played and compared alot of pickups and these take the cake for metal

1)...and? Alot of metal players use Duncan's and many use DiMarzios.
2) Other pickups are created for high gain as well
3)How? with the AB I can see it.
4)They can be tight, but that depends a lot on the player. The compression can make them sound thin.
5) Only if the player can.
6) ...and?
7) You are obviously entitled to and opinion, but is that really a reason?

EDIT: ^ I mixed them up when I typed them my bad. Fixed it.
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#9
emg + mahogany = balls to the wall
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#10
EMGs are friggen gravy. The 81/85 set up on my SG sounds superb. The 81 lacks in the clean department, but the 85 is so fat and warm. I like them alot.
#11
EMGs, DiMarzios, JB, Bill Lawrence, etc are all good pickups.
I like EMGs, but it's a matter of personal preference.
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#12
BleedDeathMetal

1)...and? Alot of metal players use Duncan's and many use DiMarzios.----They do but almost all the greats use emgs
2) Other pickups are created for high gain as well----- see section 1)
3)How? with the AB I can see it. -----High output pickups overdrive amps
4)They can be tight, but that depends a lot on the player. The compression can make them sound thin.----- Sorry you cant get them to sound better
5) Only if the player can. ----- again sorry if you cant
6) ...and? Why do Dimarzios come in different colors? Its the whole package
7) You are obviously entitled to and opinion, but is that really a reason?---If im entitled to my opinion then why are you going in and hacking them up?


And why even ask for opinions if you obvisouly know so much about them.. This isnt the pit....
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#13
I really like EMGs in Mahogony guitars, but think they're eh in alder and other guitars.
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I really like EMGs in Mahogony guitars, but think they're eh in alder and other guitars.



I've heard that the type of wood doesn't really matter with actives. Untrue?
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#15
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I've heard that the type of wood doesn't really matter with actives. Untrue?

definitely untrue, that myth gets perpetuated all the time around here. I have to change EQ settings on my amps with my guitars that are different woods, with the same exact EMG pickups. I've owned EMG's in mahogany, alder, ash, basswood, and maple, and they all have different sound qualities. EMG's still operate on the same principles as any other pickup, the only difference being the magnet is smaller, so they use a powered preamp to boost the signal.
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#16
I used to believe in that myth as well until i got my ESP and put my same emg 81 that was in my Ibanez in it... The tone does change... Does it still sound like a EMG yes it does.. But the tone does get deeper or brighter in different woods....
#17
Personally I cant stand EMG's. Seems hard to get good mids out of them. They focus too much on the bass and the treb.
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#18
I think it depends on the model. I played a Jackson with EMGs and it sounded like an elephant that had a few bean burritos. But then I tried a different model Jackson, which I'm gonna assume had different model pickups, and it sounded good.
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#19
IMO they are very sterile and have weak mids, i prefer good ceramic magnet passive pups.
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#20
out of all the guitars i own i like my jacksons SD pickups over my B.C. Rich's EMG KFK SEt.
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#21
well emgs have a distinct tone...if you like that tone, you like emgs, if you dont, then you dont. I like the sound of emgs, so i use em.
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#22
They sound pretty good, but extremely unversatile, you'll be stuck only with a metal tone, everything else will be below average for all other music types.
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#23
about the overdriving of amps with high output pickups, this is true, even with solid states, i have a strat with singles and lp obviously with humbuckers, and when i changed over to using the lp, OMFG did the distortion sound heavier.
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They sound pretty good, but extremely unversatile, you'll be stuck only with a metal tone, everything else will be below average for all other music types.

I have to disagree. Sure, there's other pickups that are more versatile, but EMGs are NOT a one trick pony.
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#25
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They sound pretty good, but extremely unversatile, you'll be stuck only with a metal tone, everything else will be below average for all other music types.


not entirely true. emgs are great metal pickups but can be used for other styles as well - dave gilmour, keith richards, even vince gill (country dude) used them at some point.
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#26
I like Blackouts better than EMGs, but to each their own.
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#27
Blackouts beat EMG's (YES, i've tried them).
I was just noodling around at the store (I would never buy a set of actives, seeing as i'm a bluesman), and even though I love passives more than actives, I thought the Blackouts were much better, much stronger sounding. EMG's are fizzy and kind of strange to my ears.
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#28
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not entirely true. emgs are great metal pickups but can be used for other styles as well - dave gilmour, keith richards, even vince gill (country dude) used them at some point.



Be fair though, those guys probably used the single coil versions. I know gilmour did, and he switched back to passives.
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#29
Blackouts. EMGs are great for metal, but Blackouts just do better, and they're cleans are clearer as well.
#30
Depends, do you play metal? If so, do you want uber high gain? Then EMG's are great. They have a distinctive sound that you can't get with other pickups. If you like playing things other than metal, then they aren't really that great. It's all personal preference though.
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#31
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I was never really able to do a side by side comparison with EMG's until today.

I bought a EC-1000 w/ Duncan pups and I was comparing it to my Jackson, while running it through my Framus. The cleans on the Duncan '59 is so much warmer and smoother, abd clean wise it blows the 60 out of the water. Then I compared them (JB v. 81) on the gain channel. And boy was I surprised. The Duncan sounds so much fatter and tighter then my EMG. It also has a certain grittiness to its sound. Almost like a pronounced crunch. I really prefer the tone of the Duncans. They are both similarly priced guitars, so quality should not be the biggest deal (wood and such).

So what does UG think? Are EMG's really overrated for metal?


If I see it correctly, you are comparing different pick ups with different guitars. The bodywork is mahogony on the LTD, whereas the Jackson is probably alder. So your comparison = fail!
#32
no... if you got a mahogany guitar do not get emg's. I made this mistake for like 7 years of my guitar playing life. I always got the emg's. And then I got a good pair of passives in my new schecter. Blows those emg's away and sounds killer with my tube amp. It sounds so deep and heavy. And the emg is just like... sterile.
#33
to add.... most people go through the emg phase earlier in their career because the first one you get after you're used to stock pickups.... you're like goddamn these things are killer. But then later on when you hear some damn good passives you switch back. I know i wont buy another emg.
#34
^I agree. I love my duncans so damn much!

a little off topic. but when I first started guitar I would see my bros friends with emgs on their guitars and I had never seen them in real life before and I was always facinated to see were they rubber or what because they looked so.. Idk.. so cool
#35
yeah like i said compared to most stock pickups you'll install the emg's and be like wow this is great and stick with them for 7 years like i did. lol and then one day you'll get ahold of those sweet passives in mahogany wood.
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no... if you got a mahogany guitar do not get emg's. I made this mistake for like 7 years of my guitar playing life. I always got the emg's. And then I got a good pair of passives in my new schecter. Blows those emg's away and sounds killer with my tube amp. It sounds so deep and heavy. And the emg is just like... sterile.


Dude, mahogany is said to be one of the best woods for EMGs. Lovely warm tone and lots of mids and low end.

Anyways it's all preference. I have a guitar with a JB, one with an Evo and one with an EMG81. They all sound different and they all sound great.
#37
mahogany is good for emg's i wasnt doubting that. What I meant by that. Was if you have mahogany go passive and really hear your wood tone you know what i mean? You go active you don't get that as much.
#39
if you add another battery they sound alot better, not so sterile etc

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no... if you got a mahogany guitar do not get emg's. I made this mistake for like 7 years of my guitar playing life. I always got the emg's. And then I got a good pair of passives in my new schecter. Blows those emg's away and sounds killer with my tube amp. It sounds so deep and heavy. And the emg is just like... sterile.


Nope, enough exceptions to what you are saying, but it is all personal preference in the end. And about "sterile", perhaps you heard it on a crappy guitar or your EQ was wrong.
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