#1
My current setup: Epi Les Paul, Palomino V32, and a Marshall guv'nor 2 distortion pedal aren't quite cutting it anymore. I want a heavier sound. I love the cleans I get, but I was thinking about going with an EHX Metal Muff to give me the possibility of going as high of gain as I'll ever want. I was also thinking about getting an inexpensive multi-effects pedal to really find what sound I'm looking for. The one that really popped out to me was the Digitech RP350. I wanna hear your opinions on these pedals and if you think they will fit the bill.

Thanks!
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#2
I generally hear good things about the metal muff, though I've never tried one. Multi-fx pedals are good for what you're talking about though, trying to find what fx you like. In comparisons with single effects the multi usually isn't as good.
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#3
You could get a multi effects but chances are, you'll never be satisfied with the tones. I had a GT-8 and I was never happy with it. The Metal Muff is pretty cool sounding. I prefer amp drive though. Pedals don't really cut it.

Try a Guyatone MMX Metal Master. They sound pretty killer.
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#4
I agree but my amp will never get past classic rock on its own. And I certainly am not in the position to buy a new one anytime soon. Thanks to all.
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#5
Quote by metrobunny61
I agree but my amp will never get past classic rock on its own. And I certainly am not in the position to buy a new one anytime soon. Thanks to all.


Did you try boosting the front end with an OD? The Palomino series amplifiers can get pretty heavy with a little boost.
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#6
try a maxon od808 or the other maxon od pedal. if it's a tube amp that'll do wonders for it.
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#7
Would an OD over overdrive channel really push it into metal territory?
GEAR

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vox wah

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#8
^^Very true. A bad monkey will do well on a budget. Great pedal for fifty dollars.

^I've never personally tried it, but you should be able to go much heavier with the gain very high on the amp and the level and gain fairly high on whatever OD you get.
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#9
Quote by bite_the_bullet
try a maxon od808 or the other maxon od pedal. if it's a tube amp that'll do wonders for it.


I second that.

The OD808 is my favourite tubescreamer-sounding pedal, but it might not be "heavy" sounding enough for you. I'm not sure what the Palomino sounds like cause i've never played one though.
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#10
I find a overdrive pedal and overdrive channel makes a really awful tone
awfully muddy, and excessively noisey.


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#11
what kind of sound are you looking for?
like band wise?
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#12
^^ It doesn't work with a solid state amp.
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#13
I'm not really looking for any other bands sound. But in my current band, the other guitar players sound is a lot more aggressive. Also, is there a large difference between the original tubescreamer and any of its offshoot counterparts? Or the difference between a Ts9 or an 808?
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vox wah

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#14
Quote by Kevin Saale
^^ It doesn't work with a solid state amp.


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#15
The metal muff will get you a nice sound! Although you should consider a 2 pedal setup again. I use a Boss MT-2 and a Dtech DF-7 with the gain at max on the MT-2 and the gain at minimum on the DF-7. Guitar with EMGs into Random pedal into DF-7 - MT-2 adn theres almost no sensible way you can get higher gain. Two pedals gives you crunch AND searing gain.

Not to sure about the Dtech RP350 I tend to find most multis too water, that being said I rely on my Dtech DF-7 so not really sure.
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#16
Quote by metrobunny61
I'm not really looking for any other bands sound. But in my current band, the other guitar players sound is a lot more aggressive. Also, is there a large difference between the original tubescreamer and any of its offshoot counterparts? Or the difference between a Ts9 or an 808?


i meant like examples. to give us an idea of how heavy you want it. right now we have no idea because there are many degrees of 'heavy'.

personally, i would go with the 808.
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#17
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the Palomino is a SS


The palomino is all tube....
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#18
The V32 is a 30 watt tube. And I thought about putting another pedal next to my marshall. But even just combining the marshall and the amps overdrive gets god awful results.
GEAR

epy lp
palomino v32
marshall guv'nor 2
vox wah

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#19
It's because it's a distortion pedal. An OD pedal is a totally different beast.
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Quote by Kevin Saale
The palomino is all tube....


i meant to say isnt, not is.
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#21
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the Palomino is a SS

The Palomino V32 is an all valve amplifier.

Don't crank the gain on the OD. Put the level on full and add a tiny amount of gain on the pedal with your amp's distortion quite high.
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#22
Addressing the how heavy question: Not like modern metal exactly. But we are a hard rock band. and right now im just below the mark I need to be at. I'd rather over-compensate, and be able to comfortably dial down to get what I want.
GEAR

epy lp
palomino v32
marshall guv'nor 2
vox wah

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#23
Quote by metrobunny61
Addressing the how heavy question: Not like modern metal exactly. But we are a hard rock band. and right now im just below the mark I need to be at. I'd rather over-compensate, and be able to comfortably dial down to get what I want.


You have a Gov'nor 2 right? Try putting it over the drive channel and set the volume on full and the gain low.
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#24
The only problem with putting my marshall on low gain over the drive channel is that the amp is voiced pretty classical. and that comes through a whole lot. and it gets kinda fuzzy.
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marshall guv'nor 2
vox wah

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#25
Quote by H4T3BR33D3R
You have a Gov'nor 2 right? Try putting it over the drive channel and set the volume on full and the gain low.

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#26
Quote by metrobunny61
The only problem with putting my marshall on low gain over the drive channel is that the amp is voiced pretty classical. and that comes through a whole lot. and it gets kinda fuzzy.


I've boosted Palomino amps many times. They don't sound fuzzy at all. How do you have the amp set?
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