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good idea
63 62%
no bad idea
39 38%
Voters: 102.
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#1
i was watching this movie in my health class about anorexia and it showed this girl who was about to die in the hospital. the only way the doctors could save her was to give her a feeding tube. but she kept on refusing. i know that its our right to refuse treatment, but this girls brain was obviously controlled by the disease. there was no way she was capable of making a good decision, she couldnt even control herself.

i was wondering what the pit would think about having a law that states that any person who is incapable to make decisions do to disease or head trauma ect, should automatically be given treatment.
#3
Honestly, someone who starts to be anorexic has issues already.
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#6
Quote by Slinov
Yeah, but with that, doesn't it bring forth the discussion about Euthanasia (sp?) and how some people would unethically kill off relatives just for inheritance purposes?


im talking about if a person is close to death from like anorexia and refuses a feeding tube. this way they will get it anyway
#7
You make anorexia sound like it physically affecting their brain.

It's not a disease, it's a disorder.

And in the case of anorexia I believe it should maybe be okay to force feed... though that'll make the mental state of the patient worse... guh.

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Honestly, someone who starts to be anorexic has issues already.


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#8
That is an exceptionally bad idea, How do you know for sure if someones being controlled by a disease? Anorexia clearly isnt a mind altering disease, if she wants to die let her
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#9
Meh, let the Anorexics die. All they'll do is make little anorexic babies.

Natural selection FTW.
#10
Quote by RevaM1ssP1ss
You make anorexia sound like it physically affecting their brain.

It's not a disease, it's a disorder.

And in the case of anorexia I believe it should maybe be okay to force feed... though that'll make the mental state of the patient worse... guh.

EDIT:


It's not a choice



real ****ty situation
#11
It's not always a choice you make. Anorexia is a disease that makes you feel that you don't want to eat, like you don't have an appetite. Therefore, it can't always be helped, so the poll doesn't have the answer i'm looking for: It depends on the situation.
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#12
Quote by willy_99
if you want to die, they should let you


She dosn't want to die, she's got anorexia, research foo!
#13
I'm sure they could just have her sectioned and then she has no right to refuse treatment.
#14
No way dude. Being bipolar, if I ever get it into my head that I should jump off the Empire State Building in an attempt to fly, because I believe I'm superman, you assholes need to let me. You never know.. I might be able to do it, and if you don't let me.. You're out the worlds first super hero.
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#15
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im talking about if a person is close to death from like anorexia and refuses a feeding tube. this way they will get it anyway


to be honest, if it's law and the person still refuses, who would go to prison/be charged? The patient, who is about to die/is dead, or the doctor for "not trying hard enough" or something like that?
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No way dude. Being bipolar, if I ever get it into my head that I should jump off the Empire State Building in an attempt to fly, because I believe I'm superman, you assholes need to let me. You never know.. I might be able to do it, and if you don't let me.. You're out the worlds first super hero.



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#17
Quote by Slinov
to be honest, if it's law and the person still refuses, who would go to prison/be charged? The patient, who is about to die/is dead, or the doctor for "not trying hard enough" or something like that?


hmm good point. but if the person is that weak they could easily overpower the person
#18
Quote by xAbyssusx
She dosn't want to die, she's got anorexia, research foo!


well if she is refusing the feeding tube, she clearly wants to die so let her. no matter what disorder you have.
#19
Quote by bob farrell
That is an exceptionally bad idea, How do you know for sure if someones being controlled by a disease? Anorexia clearly isnt a mind altering disease, if she wants to die let her



Males can't be anorexic, did you know

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It's not always a choice you make. Anorexia is a disease that makes you feel that you don't want to eat, like you don't have an appetite. Therefore, it can't always be helped, so the poll doesn't have the answer i'm looking for: It depends on the situation.


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Quote by willy_99
well if she is refusing the feeding tube, she clearly wants to die so let her. no matter what disorder you have.


NO, anorexia isn't a want to die, it's a want to be pretty i.e. skinny as fook, but they don't realise what it's doing to them.


Ignorance to things like this stresses me outtttt ://
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#20
If they don't want treatment; I say that it's their choice. No matter how much it's for their own good.

EDIT: 'No matter how much it's for their own good.' - Maybe that was going a bit too far. I meant, depending on how bad the state the person is in.
#22
There already are laws that state, if you are incapable of making decisions for yourself then doctors, next of kin, etc. have the right to make those decisions for you. Regarding health care anyway. It falls under implied consent. Meaning that the doctors could assume that if the person were of sound mind, they would consent to the treatment.
#23
Quote by Greenie_777
I'm sure they could just have her sectioned and then she has no right to refuse treatment.


Yea, i totally agree. Im sure (at least in the UK) she would have been sectioned under the mental health act and treatment given to her regardless of any fuss she made about it. She was/is obviously a danger to herself and so it would not take long for her to be sectioned in any UK hospital.
#25
Anorexia? More like Anor-sexy-a.
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#26
As long as this law won't be abused, yes.
But obviously it will be abused so I voted no.
#27
If someone wants to refuse treatment then let them, unless they are actually nuts, in which case a family member shud make the choice, but they have to be properly crazy, unable to make any decision
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#28
It depends apon the situation. If it is anorexia and they are going to think they are fat anyways, then yes, force feed them. If they are in a coma and cant make a decision themselves, i say its not right to pull the plug.
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#29
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It depends apon the situation. If it is anorexia and they are going to think they are fat anyways, then yes, force feed them. If they are in a coma and cant make a decision themselves, i say its not right to pull the plug.

How can you say that, force feed them. If they are sane, and they wanna die, just chuck um out of whatever facility theyre in and let em die, forcing stuff down them aint right
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#30
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How can you say that, force feed them. If they are sane, and they wanna die, just chuck um out of whatever facility theyre in and let em die, forcing stuff down them aint right

Because people who starve themselves are completely rational.
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#31
i think they should go ahead with any kind of proceedure. if they're beyond making a rational choice.

but i also think it should be free. if your gonna do something they may not like, why charge em when they wake up?
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#32
The girl being described here probably has an underlying mental condition ,considering how extremely ****ed up this is.
#33
there is a law that people who are deemed mentally unstable don't have the right to refuse treatment their doctor feels is appropriate.
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#34
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Actually males can be anorexic,



Well done... lol

I was being sarcastic... perhaps the rest of UG was just being dim
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#35
Someone who's suffering from anorexia is not considered to be in a stable mindset and should be fed.

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there is a law that people who are deemed mentally unstable don't have the right to refuse treatment their doctor feels is appropriate.


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#36
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#37
It's their decision. It's like that movie 'Who's Life is it Anyway', they wanted to declare a perfectly sane man who was paralyzed from the neck down insane in order to perform treatment on him that he didn't want. Ideally it would be good but no one has the right to make decisions for you about your body.
#38
Quote by RevaM1ssP1ss
You make anorexia sound like it physically affecting their brain.

It's not a disease, it's a disorder.

And in the case of anorexia I believe it should maybe be okay to force feed... though that'll make the mental state of the patient worse... guh.

EDIT:


It's not a choice


Deprivation of vitamins, minerals and other sustenance necssary for normal operation can definitely physically affect one's brain and central nervous system.
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#39
Quote by Slinov
Yeah, but with that, doesn't it bring forth the discussion about Euthanasia (sp?) and how some people would unethically kill off relatives just for inheritance purposes?

i don't think so, 'cause i would contradict the hypocratic oath
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#40
Quote by ctb
If they don't want treatment; I say that it's their choice. No matter how much it's for their own good.

EDIT: 'No matter how much it's for their own good.' - Maybe that was going a bit too far. I meant, depending on how bad the state the person is in.

exactly
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