#1
Hey

Ive been playing acoustic for good few years now and at 16 im want to buy my first electric..

I have decided on Microcube for the amp...

im wondering whats the main differences between a Epi LP and a Strat...ie tone,weight,suited styles..
I would probally be playing alot of rythm at the start due to me bein used to acoustic songs etc

I listen to alot of light rock/indie bands such as The kooks,Fratellis and Fouantains of Wayne...
When i was younger i had a soft spot for bands like blink and liked their sound...


Is this good value?....
http://www.thomann.de/ie/epiphone_les_paul_ultra_ii_faded_cherry.htm
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Last edited by guitarguy182 at Mar 10, 2008,
#5
les paul.
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#6
Standard Epi LP's are heavy, poorly set and equipped with sh*tty pups

Low-end yamahas (pacifica) are rather a starter guitars, they just sound bad :/

try some MiM Strats (great for bluesy/funky tones) or Yamaha AES series guitars (some cool axes for the buck!)
My Rig:

+Epiphone AJ100 acoustic
+Fender 60th. Anniversary Stratocaster
+Vox AD30VT
+Vox V847a Wah


look all i wanted was for someone to give me advice on what to do not to slag me off ok

Want advice? Suck yourself off.
#8
Les Paul's are better than cheap strats, but really why don't you just go to a guitar shop and see for yourself?
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#9
i cant really do that because i live in a smallish town and the music shop only has a set few
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#11
Quote by guitarguy182
I listen to alot of light rock/indie bands such as The kooks,Fratellis and Fouantains of Wayne...
When i was younger i had a soft spot for bands like blink and liked their sound...
Most of those 'indie' bands use Telecasters. In fact there are countless stories of many current bands being forced to use Teles by their management as it is 'the' guitar to fit that 'indie' image.

So, look into getting a Telecaster. It would certainly suit you more than a Stratocaster would.


As far as the LPs go, I'd say don't bother. I love Les Pauls myself, but they're really made for equally either music that is cleaner than that stuff (e.g. blues), or much heavier (classic rock, some metal). They're not really a 'light rock' guitar. Double humbucker guitars can be used for that kind of thing, but the body mass of the LP makes it simply a bit too dark sounding. You may like to look into SG style guitars instead though, as they have a little less wood to the body so they have a slightly brighter sound than Les Pauls.


Alternatively, you might like to try out semi-hollowbody archtop guitars (such as the Gibson 335: or the much cheaper Epiphone Dot or Ibanez Artcore series). These have a fairly different tone to any of the previously mentioned guitars, but they are used in straight forward rock quite a lot, and are probably the #2 'indie' guitar after the Telecaster; for example for most of Oasis' career, they have used Epiphone archtop guitars extensively.


Quote by guitarguy182

Neither for you.

The Ultra and Ultra-II are specialist guitars; they're not quite Les Pauls, they're not quite true semi-hollowbody guitars, and the Ultra-II makes it even more complicated with an acoustic blend system (which you may think sounds great since you're already used to acoustic; but don't be fooled by the name and terms, it really just gives the guitar a more country style 'twang').

Really, the Ultra and Ultra-II should only be bought by people who already know that they specifically want the rare sound that those two guitars give. They should never be bought by anyone who doesn't already know how they'll end up, to put it bluntly.


EX/GX guitars that Epiphone make are also much the same, but rather than for being for blues and country, they're for heavy rock and metal. Again, they won't suit you, and really they're slightly specialised instruments that should only be bought by people who know they specifically want those features.


The general rule of thumb is, if you have to ask "would this be good" or "what's this for", then you shouldn't be buying [whatever it is you're asking about]. Never buy a guitar you have to ask about, basically.



My advice is, look at Telecasters, SGs, and maybe archtops. The Tele would suit you more than the Strat, the SG would suit you more than the LP, and I'm willing to bet you'd probably quite like the archtops too.




Quote by guitarguy182
i cant really do that because i live in a smallish town and the music shop only has a set few
Then don't buy an Epiphone. Epiphone make good guitars, but their quality control is dodgy. If you have to order in through a store or order online, you're taking a big risk as the majority of the time you'll get a sub-par and deeply flawed instrument.

If you're looking at Epiphones, you have to go to a store and try out several (usually between 10 and 15) to find one of the rare good ones.
#12
Thanks alot..Ya i did notice alot of those bands used telecasters alright....

If you could explain a bit more archtops tho...thank you
Also would a microcube be okay fo bedroom amp?
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Last edited by guitarguy182 at Mar 10, 2008,
#14
Also would a microcube be okay fo bedroom amp?


Microcube would be absolutely ideal. If you want to compare it to another good amp in its range, you could consider the Vox DA5 -- I liked the clean sounds and the effects a bit more on the Vox than on the Microcube, although the Microcube had slightly better higher-gain sounds.

Pacificas are fine starter guitars, too, but I agree with the poster above who suggested a Telecaster for the music you play.
#15
but are the Telecasters as versatile as the strat/lps...

The music i play was mainly due to me playing on acoustic and they sounded good so maybe with an electric i might be a bit more adventorous if you know what i mean...
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