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Did you know that George W. Bush could "legally" extend his tenure as Commander-In-Chief? In fact, he could continue to be so until he died. You might say "How can this be at all true?" or "You're just being paranoid." I might be a bit paranoid, but at least you don't need to be. Now for the "good news"....

In 1982, The Cold War was unknowingly in it's last decade of existence. The Soviet Union's economic standing at this time was very poor and it was in need of a shift in the balance of power to strengthen it's trade and it's ability to "convert" foreign nations to a similar governmental system, being communism of course. President Reagan was concerned that the Soviets might launch a nuclear attack to take the United States out of the global equation which would have thrown all the power to the USSR. The National Program Office or NPO was supposed to support the Continuity of Government or COG in such an event. But, it'd needed to be an ultra-classified program, in fact the security clearance needed to even look at documents regarding the NPO was only given to the President and the chief executive officer which is the Vice President, yes this means Dick Cheney is in control of the Shadow Government, the Speaker of House, Chief Officer of the Army, Chief Officer of the Navy, Chief Officer of the Air Force, the Director of the CIA, Director of FEMA and a very small group of top officials from the Pentagon. This classified nature was to protect the information on who'd go where and who would have control of the nuclear weapons to return fire on the USSR. Seems fair enough up to this point right? Did I mention that there was no oversight committee? Not unusual of super secret projects, ie. Manhattan Project or the U2 spy plane project, however this lead to abuse, waste and fraud in the NPO which I'll cover momentarily.

For undisclosed reasons the NPO has authority to disband Congress. This would give the Executive Branch uninterrupted power to wage a potential war against the Soviets, without having to follow the normal process of such a situation. President Clinton attempted to cancel the NPO plan due to the Soviet's downfall in the late 80s into the early 90s. The roles were downplayed and two facilities were closed, due to the security reasons, those two facilities were never named. The role of the NPO was diminished throughout Clinton's tenure in the White House, but after the attacks of September 11th, 2001, President Bush reinstated the full authority of the NPO in the event of mass destruction of American infrastructure, facilities of military or government, monetary structure, economic stability, or if a high number of Americans lives were lost in a terrorist attack (This was after the 9-11, therefore they didn't figure into this plan or criteria).

On October 17th, 2006, President Bush signed the Military Commission Act. This came in the wake of the Hamden v. Rumsfeld, the Act's stated purpose is "To authorize trial by military commission for violations of the law of war, and for other purposes." Meaning that enemies to the state aka. America, would be tried not in civilian courts but in Military Tribunals without a jury. This was suppose to be to try terrorists born overseas, however Jose Padilla, who was born in New York City, was arrested as a material witness, and was originally placed at Riker's Island until the proper authorities could interrogate him. Padilla was later moved to a Naval Brig establishment in South Carolina for three years before he was charged with any crimes. Jose Padilla had toured the Middle East with a group of Muslims for reasons undisclosed to the public. Padilla was thought to have close ties to Al-Qaeda, though he ended up with a charge of Criminal Conspiracy and sentenced to 17 years in military prison. How can an American citizen be tried without a jury? Well, President Bush named Padilla an illegal enemy combatant, thus he lost his right to Habeas Corpus which would have granted him protection from imprisonment without charges being brought fourth and his movement to a military establishment without probable cause (which took 3 years to be reported). This means that anyone who is presumably against the state could be held in prison without bail, no protection granted in Habeas Corpus would need to be given to you, no charges would need to be brought force and you'd lose your right to have your case by a jury of an unbiased persons. good times huh?

On May 9th, 2007 President Bush added to the shadow government by signing the The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (National Security Presidential Directive NSPD-51/Homeland Security Presidential Directive HSPD-20, sometimes called simply "Executive Directive 51" for short). An unclassified portion of this Bill was viewable on the White House website for sometime and Special Assistant Gordon Johndroe answered questions from the Media that June. It was said that "Directive 51" was to protect an acting Constitutional government, however this also strengthened the executive branches ability to influence, interfere or even under the right circumstances abolish the Supreme Court or Congress for the sake of protecting the Union in the event of a terrorist attack or military action against the United States. This would also dissolve the ability for Congress and the Supreme Court to oversee what the White House was doing and allow for whomever was President to have total control, thus the statute of limitations would be overturned. This out of the way martial law would give the President the ability to remain in control in the state of an emergency and there was never any guidelines to describe when the emergency had ended, just when it had begun.

Once Again, these Programs are so secretive that the White House will generally only admit to their existence, and this is a recent admission. The NPO for example is so Top Secret that they ruined the reputation of a man of who tried to just point of problems with security, and in no way was to trying to hinder their effectiveness.

In conclusion, The President has managed to be given the power to make himself a monarch. If President Bush decided that America was at severe risk ie. another terrorist attack or a severe hick in oil prices, he could claim any of the aforementioned clauses to stay in power until the "situation had been concluded", but he's the one that says when it's been concluded. Kind of scary huh? Chances are, he won't pull this trigger and we'll get a new President in November. However, knowing all of this, why would you not do your homework and try your best to know who is going to be in the White House? Just some food for thought.

If you need some questions answered that I failed to answer, search some of these keys words on which ever source you'd like.

NPO or National Program Office
COG or Continuity of Government
Jose Padilla
Military Commissions Act
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
CIA
FEMA
on youtube.com enter NPO & COG CNN Special Report, it's a broadcast from 1991 or 1992 but it'll answer some more questions on the NPO, COG and the problems of no oversight committees being able to question and regulate these "black" programs.

What do ya'll think? Seems like a good argument for anarchy to me!

Note: Jose Padilla does has a past based with a gang in Chicago and what not, which makes it hard to support him. But, there's suppose to be a process to be followed when trying American citizens.. in America. ya dig?
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tl;dr go back to Alex Jones movies and hippy communes where someone might actually care...
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didnt read ANY of that, but its in the constitution that no president can serve more then 2 terms. they wrote it in after FDR died of polio and the 40s, after he served like 4 terms.
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yes, but he'd also have to be re elected. so that whole story really served no point....
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Didn't read it. If I wanted to read a book I'd go to the library, geez. I'm sure its just a regurgitation of the BS all over the internet about how the world is ending. It gets your website the most hits, so who cares, right?
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I didn't read it, but I'm sure it's fascinating.

10/10 for the effort.

I was about to post the same thing... Sorry threadstarter
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I didn't read it, but I'm sure it's fascinating.

10/10 for the effort.

Well put.
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#14
and this is why you'll be working at taco bell at 40. congrats, mummy and pa must be proud.

However, if you actually read it, you'd see how it'd be possible.

nevermind i guess.

sorry for posting something intelligent, didn't realize it'd get in the way of talking about fishing on zelda or something important.
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... i read the first half, then got bored, but as far as i read, that's ****ed up.
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#18
u realize that even if he somehow became the most powerful man on earth, the american population wouldnt give two less ****s about him than they do now, hell never serve again
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tl;dr

Judging by the title, and the first sentence, it's not worth it.



my thoughts exactly
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and this is why you'll be working at taco bell at 40. congrats, mummy and pa must be proud.

However, if you actually read it, you'd see how it'd be possible.

nevermind i guess.

sorry for posting something intelligent, didn't realize it'd get in the way of talking about fishing on zelda or something important.

Yes, because I am such a loser I go to a Guitar forum and spew my conspiracy theories in huge walls of text containing terrible grammar right?
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He wouldnt get the support to commarder in cheif espcially since its probaly gonna be run by democrats and really a president can be for 10 yrs under the right circumstances
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well I read most of it...as long as it doesn't happen, who cares?
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#24
If NPO's so "Top Secret"

How do you know about it?



A SPIE!!

Seriously though, I'm no expert on U.S laws and government and whatnot, but if that were possible... Scary shiit.
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Bush-bashing is still popular? I thought that died out with primaries. Oh well, only another 8 months until people stop bitching about things they don't know about.
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damn. i read it. damn. there's a lot more with that Habeas Corpus act that's pretty scary **** too, basically Bush can kick any out of the country or the national treasury posess their things if you are suspected of links to terrorists. and ironically enough, if you study Hitler's rise to power, it's very very very similar to some of the things that are going with Bush.
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Yes, because I am such a loser I go to a Guitar forum and spew my conspiracy theories in huge walls of text containing terrible grammar right?


opposed to doing what? wanking on a free porn site in between bitching about which ibanez is better? or when the new fall out boy record comes out?

just for the record, this ****'s not really a conspiracy, just a loop hole in the "superior" American system is all. You still took the time to open the thread up to begin with as well. so, who's wasting whose time?

I thought everything in the Pit was fair game anyway?
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A lot of what he is saying is actually true. Directive 51 allows the president to take total control of the US government in the event of a national crisis to maintain continuity within the government. It is a scary thought that the president could just set off a nuke, blame it on terrorists, and become a dictator.
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That's exactly what I was going to post.
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opposed to doing what? wanking on a free porn site in between bitching about which ibanez is better? or when the new fall out boy record comes out?

just for the record, this ****'s not really a conspiracy, just a loop hole in the "superior" American system is all. You still took the time to open the thread up to begin with as well. so, who's wasting whose time?

I thought everything in the Pit was fair game anyway?

who the hell said our system is "superior"???

we cant even give our citizens good healthcare, as far as im concerned the country needs reform, and needs to get its over patriotic head out of its own ass, we are far from perfect and the country needs to realize that
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wow, ****ing great text wall of china.Any way it wont happen, every one hates bush so there ya go.
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and this is why you'll be working at taco bell at 40. congrats, mummy and pa must be proud.

However, if you actually read it, you'd see how it'd be possible.

nevermind i guess.

sorry for posting something intelligent, didn't realize it'd get in the way of talking about fishing on zelda or something important.


you must think pretty highly of yourself
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If NPO's so "Top Secret"

How do you know about it?



A SPIE!!

Seriously though, I'm no expert on U.S laws and government and whatnot, but if that were possible... Scary shiit.


well, when 20 percent of the pentagon's budget went to this program last year, some people got curious. It's hard to deny the existence of an elephant in the room. I really don't know much more than what's been fed to the public. It's just the bills, executive orders and the tax revenue transfers that give the most evidence of a way it could be done.

Like I say at the end, it's most likely not going to happen, but if there happened to be another terrorist attack in America or against an American target or ally, this could a possible turn of events. It makes me nervous that an idiot like Bush has this power in his hands. It just completely throws the balance of power out of whack, ya dig?
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you must think pretty highly of yourself


yeah, pretty much. someone has too, so it might as well be me, right?
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who the hell said our system is "superior"???

we cant even give our citizens good healthcare, as far as im concerned the country needs reform, and needs to get its over patriotic head out of its own ass, we are far from perfect and the country needs to realize that


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#39
I read all of it and I must say it was amazing, I encourage everyone else to read all of it as well, its worth every second.
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So, if this happened America would cease to be a democracy.

Does that mean the rest of the world get to invade to bring it back to them?
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