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Alright. A lot of people asked me to do a build thread about it so...

Anyway, today I recived my parcel. So me and my dad went down to the post office to pick it up. It wasn't very heavy, but one side was VERY heavy compared to the rest, so it was kind of weird to carry. Anyway I went home...



And I opened it and saw I had got


Dog food.

BUT WAIT!

Gabe, you don't own a dog.

Underneath I found what I had ordered.

Brown Note 18W Lite IIb. This is a really nice 18 watter kit. It has Heyboer transformers, Mallory caps, cabon comp resistors, JJ and EHX tubes and so on. It's a Lite version, meaning it's only the normal channel from the 18 watter.

Here's the stuff in it:


OT



PT (note it's a 36W PT)







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#2
Sweeeeeeet as man. I'll be expecting many an update

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#6
It migh tuse Carbon Film, true.

Well it came with 2 JJ El84s, one JJ 12AX7, one JJ EZ81 and one EHX 12AX7.
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#7
cant wait!

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Dave?

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Cool.

Can you post a schematic?






(This is for the 110v version though)
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#12
Alright guys, need some help with the PT wiring!
This is what it looks like (left to right, top to bottom):
Yellow-Yellow/White-White-Green-Green/Yellow-Green

Black-Black/White-Black/Blue-Black/Yellow-Red-Blue/Red-Red/Yellow-Blue/Red-Red

This is what Rocco said to another guy on his forum:
Here's the key:


Primary # 1 120 Volts Black & Black/White
Primary # 2 120 Volts Black/Blue & Black/Yellow

120 Volts = Jump Black & Black/Blue
Jump Black/White & Black Yellow

240 Volts Jump Black/Blue & Black/White & Bury

Secondary: Red Red/Blue Red/Yellow Red/Blue Red

290v - 215v - 0 - 215v - 290v

0v/Common = White
5v = Yellow/White
6.3v = Yellow

3.15v-0-3.15v:
Green=3.15v
Green/Yellow=CT
Green=3.15v


He responded like this:
what exactly do you mean by "Bury" ? im guessig its connect together then wrap up in insulating tape.

ok, i think i get it, so i join black/blue and black/white together, so that Black and Black/Yellow are the 2 "Ends" of the primary,

so, connecting Black to the terminal strip, tag#2,


and connecting Black/Yellow to terminal strip tag#1, which also connects to the power switch and one side of the indecator lamp.

thats the way i'm visualising it

And Rocco said:
yep you got it...you're running the two 120v windings in series to get 240v.
You can run your heater wires directly to the power tube sockets, leaving a couple of terminals free for the mains if you like...black/blue & black/white on the same terminal or on separate terminals with a jumper connecting them..this makes for a convenient power buss if you need to change the AC mains later.


So basically, what I would need is to know, which color goes where? The best thing would be if you could put it on the layout for my amp, found here:
http://www.brown-note.com/schematics/BN_LITE2B_LAYOUT_BN_TRANS_FINAL_v1.1.jpg
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#13
I would build the eyelet/turret board first...then wire up the pots and tubes.

I like to wire the transformers last. Makes the most sense to me.

Seems like you already have all the info you need. I bet ya that diagram corresponds with the stuff he send ya.

I also find it weird how both your inputs are high inputs...
#14
^That is odd!

To get it into a low input, I would remove the 1M, right?
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^That is odd!

To get it into a low input, I would remove the 1M, right?


No, leave the 1M. It keeps the amp from humming a lot when there is no guitar plugged in.

Usually there are 68k resistors in between the input and the first triode, to keep noise down. You'll get more gain this way; but possible also RF interference.
#18
^Alright!

i'll see how I'll do there.

I just figured the secondaries are the same, the primaries being the only difference. Not as hard as I thought. The primaries are apperently "joined" together, so the parts that are formed "together" would be the correspodning black ones on the original schematic right?

Also, what should I do with the 5v tap, it being unused?
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Wait, now I think I have it.

As the guy said:
"join black/blue and black/white together, so that Black and Black/Yellow are the 2 "Ends" of the primary,

so, connecting Black to the terminal strip, tag#2,


and connecting Black/Yellow to terminal strip tag#1, which also connects to the power switch and one side of the indecator lamp."

But where do I connect or put the "black/blue and black/white" that I have jumped?
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#21
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Hankey dont most amps have the 68K going to the first pre amp though?


Yes. In fact, this is the first amp I see without them. It seems to work fine, though.
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^hmm that is weird that the 0 is being use but not the 5V....

Hankey dont most amps have the 68K going to the first pre amp though?

isn't that beacause it uses the 6.3V out?
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Also, what should I do with the 5v tap, it being unused?


You would use that with a 5v rectifier tube, like a 5Y3GT.

Just tie and heatshrink it off.
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don't some rectifier tubes use 6.3V?
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#27
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Not that I know of or have seen....

Recto usually get a really high voltage fromt have the PT secondary and a small volatge (5V) also from the secondary


Look at the layout and the schematic! The EZ81 has a 6.3v heater.
#29
Anyway I read that all I do is to isolate the 5v tap with tape and "bury" it.
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Not that I know of or have seen....


We can rebuild him fix that. We have the technology.

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#31
Anyway, tomorow I'll start wiring up the board. Going to be fun.

Me and my dad also figured out how we are going to do with the head cab, since it was sightly different size than what I thought (I got a Hammond mesh cab).
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#33
I actually already have the cab, just no photos. We will though make a wooden front for it.
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#34
UPDATE: Today we started doing the board. First we've done a dry run to check the wire lenght of the stuff. Two resistors have just enough for making it, but the rest is great. I also saw they use Sprauge electrolytics! Got to go to band practice now, but we will wire up the board when I get home!

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#35
Cool. Why did you space the caps so ridiculously far off the board btw? Or are you going to mount them flush and trim the wires?
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#36
^Exactly, just to check the lenght of it all. On the ast one it was also placed like that until we trim it, since the wire lenght of the resistor there is EXTREMELY short and fits close to enough.
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#37
Also, did you have some Carbon Comp resistors with that kit?
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#38
Well I'll see where they go when I get home.
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#39
Well, I have no idea about electronics.

But I'll definitely be watching this. Can't wait to see how it turns out!

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