#1
Did you really ****ing suck too?

Did you constantly make the same mistakes over and over again?

Did you play, then give up, play, then give up, then play?

Did your calouses ever peel off and make it even more of a bitch to play?

And, Are you awesome now?

Just wondering.

I've started playing the guitar, I got an accoustic back in December, and I've been playing the hell out of it.

So anyways, I love metal. Early metal though.

Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, GWAR and the like.

I have a few problems, for example, When I do tremolo picking I tend to violently shake my entire arm, my good friend says that I should only use my wrist, and do a smooth picking motion.

BUT I CANT.

I've been doing my arm spasmolo picking since the beginning, I cant really go any further with it than where I am, but I feel like starting this new technique will completely throw me off.

Also my friend tells me not to get into the habit of resting my arm on the bridge of the guitar. Try to float my picking hand

WHAT. come on. Cut a guy some slack.

But anyways, I bought an amp, and borrowed my friends old OLD electric and I've been plinking on it, but this week I'm going to pick up my first electric, its a Schecter and its $750. Now i'm not a rich kid, I just never buy myself anything nice, and this is going to be one of the first. (I'm 20, Need to do something meaningful with my life, so I'm trying to really get into guitar)

I dunno, I guess the point of this thread, is that I find my self playing the same boring riffs over and over again, and when I try to learn something more technical It sounds like **** and I can't get the hang of it.

Anyone else have these problems when they started out? I've fallen in love with the guitar and I want to become great at it, and I'd also like to do this guitar I'm going to buy justice, so i guess I'm asking, did you guys suck as bad as me when you first started?

[EDIT] This is the guitar I'm buying, it's gorgeous and I think about if all the time, as gay as that sounds.

http://media.schecterguitars.com/imgs/c1_classic_tblu.jpg
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#2
Your friend is right. Better to start now rather than later. I've been changing my handwriting every two years since middle school (just something to do), and it's a challenge, but worth it once you see the final product. It'll be the same with your technique.
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#3
yeah ages ago with a7x - remenissions, the tremelo part i couldn't do it..

I was like "**** it, don't they make tremelo pedals?"

And my bassist laughed at me.. anyways got the hang of it because its a pretty slow tremelo...

Anyways when i started i didn't play metal.. coz well i couldnt.. put some songs aside and come back when you can

EDIT: btw with tremelo picking.. hold your pick VERY softly, as if its about to fall out, which it probably will occasionally and then just move your wrist. you'll get it!
#4
honestly i think your jumping into the deep end to early when your beggining try playing some easy songs then when you think you are ready try your favourite song and keep playing if you have a teacher get him/her to help you out with parts when you get stuck trust me getting good is all about self-confidence and being able to play your favourite song from front to back note for note is a massive confidence booster

my friend did this kept playing his favourite song (sweet child o mine) for 2 years until he could do it perfectly know he can play most of the song behind his head (even most of the solo) when he achieved this his playing level went up 100 fold
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#5
Firstly, don't expect metal sound good on an acoustic. It doesn't unless you go out of your way to arrange it specifically for acoustic but that's a whole different story.
Secondly, if you're going to be playing hi-gain music like metal, you're going to want to have a good muting technique, whereby you are resting your hand on the bridge. When you play with alot of distortion, vibrations from strings you aren't playing get picked up much easier and unless you mute them, you're going to sound like crap.
As for the trem picking, I tend to move my whole forearm because I find I get a tighter motion as opposed to just using my wrist.
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#6
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Firstly, don't expect metal sound good on an acoustic. It doesn't unless you go out of your way to arrange it specifically for acoustic but that's a whole different story.
Secondly, if you're going to be playing hi-gain music like metal, you're going to want to have a good muting technique, whereby you are resting your hand on the bridge. When you play with alot of distortion, vibrations from strings you aren't playing get picked up much easier and unless you mute them, you're going to sound like crap.
As for the trem picking, I tend to move my whole forearm because I find I get a tighter motion as opposed to just using my wrist.

I figured his friend was lecturing him on acoustic technique.
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#7
Nice new guitar you picked. Treat yourself is right..

I've been playing for 23 years. Yes, when I started everything was a challenge. I played for a while, stopped for a while, etc. Everything you listed I have gone through over the course of two decades. Now I am back at it with focus I did not have when I was younger.

If you want to be great, and you can be if you stay focussed, then you need to figure out how to keep yourself focussed. Take lessons, practice every day if you can on both your acoustic and electric. I play the same stuff you want to. Everything I write has both acoustic and electric versions. Variety is a good thing. Time and effort will pay off, but not overnight

Work on using your wrist for your trem picking, but also keep working on your arm spaz 'technique'. Having both is far better than having one or the other. There are many techniques you will eventually master, but time and effort are required. When all your friends are going to the club, you may want to stay home, practice, and practice some more. If you want to really be great, you need to sacrifice the stupid crap like partying as often as possible. That was my problem, so here I am 20 years later, doing what I should have done 20 years ago...

As for lessons, you definitely need some. Whether DVD's, personal instructor, or books, get some lessons. I have never had any personal lessons, just books in the 80's, jamming with friends, and trying to figure stuff out myself. Today, I have a pile of DVD's from Metal Method. They are good. They are cheaper than a personal instructor. If you are going to spend 750 on that sweet Schecter, spend another 150 on the Metal Method Full course plus the Speed Kills series. Go to www.metalmethod.com to get started. You will not regret it.

With time, effort, and dedication, you can be a great guitar player. You advance in very small increments, sometimes it seems like you are not advancing at all, but you are. Every note you play counts. Once you have made enough incremental improvement, you will make a leap- this is called getting over a plateau, and it feels good when you get over one that you have been in for years- trust me on that one!

One more thing- slow down when you are playing. If you are making the same mistake, slow it down, repeat it over and over at a slow pace. Gradually work your way up in speed. If you are making mistakes, you are playing too fast for the moment. Speed is a by-product of accuracy.
#8
ya every1 sux balls when they first start out...but ur buddies givin u good advice...the reason u cant do n e thin more advanced is cause ur "spasmolo" picking lmao...jus get it down...ur gonna **** up alot...but thats the point of practise....dont forget to keep ur pick on an angle...sweet guit....keep it up man
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#9
Okay so I just picked it up today.

The guy was like, "So yeah you can get this 40 dollar case if your out giggin' it up" and I'm like "Yeah, for all my gigs".

The only gigs I put on is for my roomates at 3 in the morning. And the shows are free.

Anyways, I see this guitar as a symbol of my commitment to becoming a better guitarist. I'm kind of scared that I bought it, but I'm also really glad that I did. I have to pay off $650 in the next 6 months, it should be easy but bull**** comes up all the time. Well at least I'm single now and I don't have to worry about biznatches.

I know this is against the rules, and I'm trying to follow them as best I can, but what would be a good beginner song for me to learn? It doesnt necessarily have to be one I'll like, just one that I would be proud to know all the way through.

Also the beginner songs thread is down, and I can't get to whatever website it is.
#10
You're getting way too far ahead of yourself - tremolo picking isn't even particularly important, but either way you've got no chance of pulling it off until you can already pick realtively controlled and accurately.

Basically, you need to spend some time simply learning to play the guitar, metal is by it's very nature fairly complex and difficult to play - sadly there's no such thing as "beginner" metal songs.

Spend some time getting used to the guitar, building up finger strength and getting your hands used to the feel of the fretboard. Open chords are the best place to start as not only are they a good workout for your hands but they're also the quickest way to get some songs out of the guitar.

If you try to play stuff that's too hard you simply get nowhere - guitar has a sequentuial learning curve and more advanced techniques rely on you being able to perform the basics. For example, to play a fast palm-muted metal rhythm in triplets you need to able to...

palm- mute the chords...
but you can't learn to palm mute until you can play the chords in the first place...
and they'll likely be barre chords which are nigh-on impossible until you can play some open chords...
likewise there'll often be fast, single note muted riffs or powerchords...
which you can't play unless you can pick accurately and shift hand positions quickly....
which logically you can't do until you can first do those things slowly....
and as far as shifting hand positions goes you first need to get the hang of hitting frets and changing chords in a single position...
and as far as picking goes it takes a while do develop the control required for metal stuff, your hand needs to be loose enough to maintain a rhythm, yet accurate.

You just need to start at the beginning - like people always say, you have to learn to walk before you can run.
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#11
Well, Actually since decemhber I've been progressing fairly well.

I can palm mute, and I can so some crunching and all that.

One of my favorite riffs to play is from Jump in the fire, the main riff.

It's the riff I always play whenever I sit down to test out a guitar.

Anyways pretty much the whole riff is palm muted, I was hung up on palm muting for a while until I learned its pretty simple on an electric.

if it wasnt for Kill em' all I would probably have nothing to do with the guitar.

The best songs to play on that album are Seek and Destroy, Jump in the fire, and Metal Militia

All of those songs I would say have the perfect riffs for a beginning metal lover to play.
#12
Well, I started recently myself outta the blue. I actually wanted to play piano, but lessons and a piano werent practical. I came in contact with a cheap-o walmart electric, and it was like fate. I held it and just knew guitar was for me. A week later I went and got a Mexi Fender, amp etc.

Do I suck? Hellz yeah.

I got tabs of my favorite songs and I watch youtube stuff all the time, and I cant play any of them for shyt. I dont care though. The thought of quitting has never occured to me. In fact, I was about to buy an ESP LTD 1000, but I decided that it will be a gift to myself once I improve significantly.

What do I practice? Well, Im trying to memorize the fretboard. I practice scales (major and minor pentatonic right how), chords and I do some finger strengthening and dexterity excercises. Thats it. Basic. Is it boring? Yup. But a solid foundation will serve me far into my playing years than learning an Iron Maiden tab.

Be realistic about playing, not starry eyed. Sure everyone wants to be another Hendrix, Paige, Buckethead or whatever, but those guys took YEARS to get to their current level.

No need to be so serious in the begining. Have fun with it. Treat your guitar like you would some girl youve always wanted to date, and now you finally have her. Go slow, easy, be respectful and things will blossom.

Good luck.
#13
But doesn't an Axe Murderer go right for the goodies?

I kid.

One thing I'm concerned about, is that I'm 20. Turning 21 on sunday.

I'm ashamed that I've already passed by that 9-12 year old age where you can develop and master a talent in a month.

How old are you Axe Murderer?
#14
All I know is how crap I was when I started, and how crap I continued to be for quite some time, certainly longer than 2 months. I don't know how good you are, but I know for sure that you're nowhere near as good as you think you are.

Honestly, the best thing you can do right now is be brutally honest with yourself and accept the fact that you're going to have to put in some old fashioned boring donkey work now if you ever want to get halfway decent. Otherwise you'll just learn a load of stuff badly now and continue to play it badly. I've seen youtube vids of players who claimed to be playing over a year and you'd have sworn they only picked the thing up a week ago, they were THAT bad...you don't want to turn into one of those people.
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#15
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Married with children (queue Al Bundy music)

Im finding the theory easier and the technique a little more difficult, but not much.

I'm an avid gamer. have been since the first decent home systems, so I have that hand/eye/mind thing going, so its not too bad. What I am sad I missed out on is being young and starting a band with a bunch of neighborhood buddies etc.

Ah well. Never too later to learn something new. And, in fact, learning new skills as you age actually helps keep your brain young!!
#16
I think everyone sucks when they first start? Unless they have musical experience with a violen or banjo or something very alike. I guess I progressed very fast by learning songs, starting with chord song I.E House of the rising sun. Once I had chords down I skipped barre chords, when on building finger strength with lot of hammers and pulls I.E The Metal - Tenacious D. After that my fingers were strong barre chords then were extremely easy (on electric) So I learned those patterns, then from there I guess I just played songs that were harder then what my skill was. I knew it, my friends knew it, but I worked on them. Eventually they helped a lot. Just play slow with a metronome. Build up the speed later.

I also had a teacher when I first started, It was for reading notes so I had the first position down. I also knew the bad habits and made sure I didn't do them. Hm... I've also recently learned a lot of music theory and I'm taking a music theory class in my high school next year.

Hopefully you'll get an idea where to go, but make sure you have at least the open chords down before you move on to the harder stuff. (They build a lot of finger strength)
#17
If you rush past your skill "level" then like Steven said, you'll end up like one of those people that are horrible after 1 year. Granted, it might not be their fault, some people have a really hard time coordinating their hands and have a undeveloped memory. But I can't stress enough how important accuracy is, playing a beginner song perfectly will impress people more then an advanced song that is full of mistakes, bad timing and slips.
#18
Nirvana, Foo Fighters are good songs to learn. They aren't complicated, but they sure sound good.
#19
i just started and i suck pretty bad. it helps your confidence a lot to play a whole song though. i like to play white stripes and nirvana because i can get through most of them. Its very slow going though, but that makes it so much better. anything good is worth waiting for
#20
Don't get yourself down man, just practice, practice, practice. I cannot stress to you how bad you need to learn your music theory though. Like a poster above me said, don't worry about learning complicated songs just yet, learn scales, chords, progressions however boring it may be. I started playing when I was 13. When I was thirteen, I skipped all of that aforementioned stuff and went straight for the Steve Vai tab ("Halo theme" to be exact, the main riff is a good learning one). Sure, after about four hours a day for about five days I learned it, but I had no idea how it was written, what styles, techniques, or even what key it was in. So here I am, 14 years old, about to turn 15 in my guitar class at high school learning theory from a teacher who I could own at guitar. Am I learning though? Yes, I know all of my major, minor, and 7th chords and the major and minor scales. The good thing is though, I'm the best player in that class because I pay attention, I learn my stuff, and when class is over, I belt out riffs, improv for people, and even write songs. Looking at your progress really helps too. What was the first song you played when you started playing guitar? What songs would you like to play? About a month ago I was watching a video on Youtube, it was some guy playing Heartbreaker. "Damn," I said. "There is no way in hell I'm going to be able to learn that." Now, I know it front, back and, upside down. Looking back at that moment makes me feel good about my progression, which in turn gives me confidence, which fuels my progression again, a perfect circular system.

Here's the video in case you were wondering (of Heartbreaker)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tDgTOTijZLk
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#21
if you get frustrated with a song, just put the guitar down for a little while and take a break. Then later come back and practice the part your having trouble with.

It takes time to get the hang of looking at a song and being able to play it. it took me a long time to be able to sit down and play w/e i wanted
#22
I did have most of your problems when I started out. My fast picking, for example, was sloppy and my hand would stop for a second and then keep on going. But as soon as I practiced, it got a lot better.

But like others said, just take the time to practice. I would also suggest trying to get in at least 45 minutes a day when you first start out it you really want to start harder things quickly, unless your sick of the song and you feel like you'll lose your life if you play one sequence of notes from that same song. Just take a quick 10 minute break or more if you think it would be best. Decrease your practicing time to 35 or 30 minutes if your fingers ache, or your head hurts from listening to random notes that is supposed to be a new song your working on. Ask your roommates to listen to the song slower, then work on it and play it faster, and repeat until you have the normal speed of the song. If they say it sucks, just keep on working on it.
#23
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I did have most of your problems when I started out. My fast picking, for example, was sloppy and my hand would stop for a second and then keep on going. But as soon as I practiced, it got a lot better.

But like others said, just take the time to practice. I would also suggest trying to get in at least 45 minutes a day when you first start out it you really want to start harder things quickly, unless your sick of the song and you feel like you'll lose your life if you play one sequence of notes from that same song. Just take a quick 10 minute break or more if you think it would be best. Decrease your practicing time to 35 or 30 minutes if your fingers ache, or your head hurts from listening to random notes that is supposed to be a new song your working on. Ask your roommates to listen to the song slower, then work on it and play it faster, and repeat until you have the normal speed of the song. If they say it sucks, just keep on working on it.


What!? 45 Minutes!? So to get better I should decrease my current practice time by about 5 hours?

If it wasnt for work, sleep and school this thing would fuse into me.

Anyways I guess I did the same ****, I just started learning guitar riffs from my favorite songs. Nothing to technical, I guess it helped me learn the board and switch strings.

The one I'm most proud of is the beginning to Welcome Home, by Coheed and Cambria. I'm a metal head, and Coheed isn't really my thing but thats a pretty sick song.

Anyways I ordered the first 2 DVD's of the Metal Method, I'm really siked about getting them, everyone says they're great. Right now my beautiful new guitar is in its case in the corner along with my amp. I think that since I play like ****, playing something as gorgeous as it would be doing it a great injustice. I feel like when I'm playing it it's going "OW!, Stop that!"

It's pretty sick though, I'm a little embaressed that I own it since I don't really know how to use it, so I've been sticking with my accoustic the last couple nights.
#24
2 years ago, I needed something to get me off the computerand out in the publics eye

So I say hey why not start on the bass but the bass didn't work out so I switched to a guitar
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#25
when i first started, i sucked majorly. my parents were so set that i would play it for like a couple of weeks and then put it down. i guess i really started to love it because i kept playing it and i still do. ive been playing for 2 years, and ive gotten a hell of a lot better. but i know i still suck. it just takes a lot of patience and a lot of practice.
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#26
I can't give the same quality advice as the uber pros that are trying to help, but I can give you some advice from someone who just broke through the "Super Beginner" wall. I was just as frustrated as you not being able to play what sounded like the simplest of riffs and playing the same boring things over and over. You just have to keep at it and keep practicing. I've had lessons and they help as much as everyone says they do. Just keep playing and the next thing you know, you'll just be able to play things you want to.
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#27
holy crap 20 i think is past the age when ur suppose to start learning..i started when i was 11
#28
Did you really ****ing suck too?
Depends on who you compare me to. LOL

Did you constantly make the same mistakes over and over again?
Certainly, it takes a lot of work to move beyond common mistakes.

Did you play, then give up, play, then give up, then play?
I've started, stopped, about three time in my life. I wouldn't say I gave up so much as changes during different periods of my life made it difficult to stay current with guitar. I'm on for good now.

Did your calouses ever peel off and make it even more of a bitch to play?
Not really, I had some beginning calouses that did peel, but not badly. All my skin is tough now, no more peeling.

And, Are you awesome now?
Nope. I haven't put enough time into it to be awesome, I am considerably better than I was and I will be considerably better next year, but I'm guessing it'll be another five years before I'm awesome.
#29
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Did you really ****ing suck too?

Did you constantly make the same mistakes over and over again?

Did you play, then give up, play, then give up, then play?

Did your calouses ever peel off and make it even more of a bitch to play?

And, Are you awesome now?

Just wondering.

I've started playing the guitar, I got an accoustic back in December, and I've been playing the hell out of it.

So anyways, I love metal. Early metal though.

Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, GWAR and the like.

I have a few problems, for example, When I do tremolo picking I tend to violently shake my entire arm, my good friend says that I should only use my wrist, and do a smooth picking motion.

BUT I CANT.

I've been doing my arm spasmolo picking since the beginning, I cant really go any further with it than where I am, but I feel like starting this new technique will completely throw me off.

Also my friend tells me not to get into the habit of resting my arm on the bridge of the guitar. Try to float my picking hand

WHAT. come on. Cut a guy some slack.

But anyways, I bought an amp, and borrowed my friends old OLD electric and I've been plinking on it, but this week I'm going to pick up my first electric, its a Schecter and its $750. Now i'm not a rich kid, I just never buy myself anything nice, and this is going to be one of the first. (I'm 20, Need to do something meaningful with my life, so I'm trying to really get into guitar)

I dunno, I guess the point of this thread, is that I find my self playing the same boring riffs over and over again, and when I try to learn something more technical It sounds like **** and I can't get the hang of it.

Anyone else have these problems when they started out? I've fallen in love with the guitar and I want to become great at it, and I'd also like to do this guitar I'm going to buy justice, so i guess I'm asking, did you guys suck as bad as me when you first started?

[EDIT] This is the guitar I'm buying, it's gorgeous and I think about if all the time, as gay as that sounds.

http://media.schecterguitars.com/imgs/c1_classic_tblu.jpg



i didn't suck because i wasn't comparing myself to anyone.

i didn't give up because i had no end goal in mind, i wasn't playing to get good.

my fingers hurt but it was fun.

i love metal, but i enjoy playing melodic rock over metal (when the time comes i must feed the dragon though)
#30
Hey this is an interesting thread here
Well im 17, started playing bass a week ago, and belive me, bass is not easy. Not by a long shot. Right now i can play simple stuff like Smooth Criminal, Feel Good Inc., Iron Man, Run to the hills.. Most with good timing and accuracy. I can play pretty fast and do alot of rythym notes like triplets.. This is a guitar thread but the element is the same really, practise makes perfect =p
#31
i've been playing for 13 years. and when i set out to learn new things.. i'm pretty much just as you described. make the same mistakes over and over again, dead notes, wrong notes, improper technique (especially with classical) its frustrating. but just like some of the above have said, its very gratifying when you get through a piece you've been battling with for the past week or weeks.. months?

in regards to your spasmolo technique.. its what i started with. and it worked for a bit.. but you eventually have to learn the control and and most importantly, learn to relax.

much like drumming, if you're straining and seizing and tensed up to hell trying to pound something out, it'll put unnecessary strain on your muscles and JOINTS and you won't develop anything worthwile when you finally figure out a more efficient way to do things. (note i didn't say the RIGHT way.. the right way is the way that works best for you without killing yourself.)

anyway, just keep at it, try different things like different strings, different picks, strap heights, if you're sitting down trying classical position instead of the under the armpit method so many people use.. just try anythign to get you in the most comfortable position you can find for you

and btw, that guitar look FAAANtastic, C-series schecters are very nice
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#32
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holy crap 20 i think is past the age when ur suppose to start learning..i started when i was 11


Are you serious? There is no cut off point for learning an instrument.

On topic, just have fun. I was the same way when I started a year and a half ago. I still suck, but I know my limits, and just try and have fun with whatever I am capable of doing at the moment. Every now and then I'll step out of my comfort zone and attempt something beyond my abilities, and that's where the learning comes in. If I don't get it right away...cool, whatever....and I'll set it aside and come back to it another time. Soon enough you'll be able to pick it up like that. I don't know how it works, but it just does. Give it time, you're in no rush....and more importantly, have fun.
#33
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holy crap 20 i think is past the age when ur suppose to start learning..i started when i was 11



Why do you say that? There's no such thing like past the age when your suppose to start learning
#34
this thread is funny.

yes to all those things and still more to come for me. I'll buy a nice electric once I can A: afford it, B: play the slow metal solos on my unforgiving acoustic (especially with the bends). Its fun to read about other determined beginners.

learning basic chord shapes, even the hard ones that are still bothering me, really helps me alot with playing all sorts of songs. As for slower metal solos (I'm not good enough to do fast ones yet), spending alot of time on hammer-on pull-off technique is really worth it too. A little vibrato motion (back & forth on acoustic, or up and down on electric) really helps put emotion into what you play as well (big difference trust me).

Also I'm 24 and starting out so I don't want to hear about "maximum ages". I'm picking it up just fine.
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#35
I started 1 year and a couple of months ago and its not until ~3 months ago i started to practice stuff instead of learning songs all the time, and under these 3 months i have learned more then on the other 11-12 months.

And ofc you do the same mistake all over again, if you want to learn a new thing you cant expect that you will be doing it perfect the second time you try. And no when i learn a new thing i dont play it then give up if i cant, i believe one of the most important thing you need to have when learning guitar is PATIENCE.
#37
Quote by Amazing Pudding
Don't get yourself down man, just practice, practice, practice. I cannot stress to you how bad you need to learn your music theory though. Like a poster above me said, don't worry about learning complicated songs just yet, learn scales, chords, progressions however boring it may be. I started playing when I was 13. When I was thirteen, I skipped all of that aforementioned stuff and went straight for the Steve Vai tab ("Halo theme" to be exact, the main riff is a good learning one). Sure, after about four hours a day for about five days I learned it, but I had no idea how it was written, what styles, techniques, or even what key it was in. So here I am, 14 years old, about to turn 15 in my guitar class at high school learning theory from a teacher who I could own at guitar. Am I learning though? Yes, I know all of my major, minor, and 7th chords and the major and minor scales. The good thing is though, I'm the best player in that class because I pay attention, I learn my stuff, and when class is over, I belt out riffs, improv for people, and even write songs. Looking at your progress really helps too. What was the first song you played when you started playing guitar? What songs would you like to play? About a month ago I was watching a video on Youtube, it was some guy playing Heartbreaker. "Damn," I said. "There is no way in hell I'm going to be able to learn that." Now, I know it front, back and, upside down. Looking back at that moment makes me feel good about my progression, which in turn gives me confidence, which fuels my progression again, a perfect circular system.

Here's the video in case you were wondering (of Heartbreaker)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tDgTOTijZLk


Amazing pudding your an inspiration
#38
Did you really ****ing suck too?
No. I already knew musical theory.

Did you constantly make the same mistakes over and over again?
yep. open notes where everywhere.

Did you play, then give up, play, then give up, then play?
NEVER! It was love at first play.

Did your calouses ever peel off and make it even more of a bitch to play?
Whats a Calouse? I'm not sure if I have any yet.

And, Are you awesome now?
I'm about halfway.

A $750 guitar is too much for someone just starting. The guitar has ALMOST
nothing to do with your playing skill. my first guitar was a fender starcaster from wally-world and I still play it. and people still say I sound good. Just don't over do it.

A Alternate-pick alot so I can say from experience that what your friend is telling you is true. It also helps if you pick from an angle.
#39
I know that the guitars price has nothing to do with how well I play, but I'm 20 and I dont really have many skills.

I can draw pretty well and I'm good with photoshop and other forms of art, and its my career path, Graphic Design.

But I decided I needed to do something else with my life as well, so I spent that much on this guitar as a symbol of my devotion to one day mastering it.

It's gorgeous, and for almost 2 weeks I went into my local music store everyday and played it for about an hour until I realized I had to buy it.

Like I said, I feel kind of bad, because when I play it I feel as if I'm not doing it justice, so I've been on my accoustic alot.

MFarrel, it's good to know theres another late beginner here too going through the same things I am.

Don't bends on an accoustic suck balls? Holy **** I think I'd rather bend razor wire.