#1
I really want to incorporate some chords from other modes into my playing, but I kinda sorta don't know how you'd do it... The one occasion where I did do something that I guess would be modal was playing an Em chord going to a B chord. I looked at it, and the only answer I had was replacing the four chord of B with the fourth chord of B Phrygian. Is this a common way of changing the tone of a song, and what are some other ways?
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#2
usually it isn't chords but solo's that you use modes for, you'd play chords in Em, but use modes over it to change the feel.

Modes are basically the scale, but re-arranged so you get different intervals. And also, some use slightly differnt notes, like they might flatten the 5th or something (keeping simple here to make it easier).

hope this helps to some extent
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chords and modes don't really go together like that - they're two separate schools of musical thought. Modes work best over single chords or single note drone lines.

what you're looking to do is more along the lines of modulation I think.
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chords and modes don't really go together like that - they're two separate schools of musical thought. Modes work best over single chords or single note drone lines.

what you're looking to do is more along the lines of modulation I think.

yeah, that sounds like it might be what you mean, moving from one key to another via a common chord. Tell us if this is what you mean.
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I suppose I'm talking about modulation, but you're not just going to break out a Phrygian scale on a major progression. Some examples of where you might actually use modes please? I know the modes fairly well on their own, I just don't know how to apply them.
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I suppose I'm talking about modulation, but you're not just going to break out a Phrygian scale on a major progression. Some examples of where you might actually use modes please? I know the modes fairly well on their own, I just don't know how to apply them.


One common thing to do is to "borrow" chords from a nearby scale (one that contains almost all the same notes).

Example: You're playing something in D major, and you throw a C major chord in there. Diatonically, that doesn't fly, since C is not a note in the D major scale. But, since you're only really changing a single note (playing C E G instead of C# E G), it doesn't sound wrong. You could think of this as borrowing the chord from either D mixolydian, D dorian, or D aeolian, in a way, and that might be why you're thinking of it the way you are.
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I suppose I'm talking about modulation, but you're not just going to break out a Phrygian scale on a major progression. Some examples of where you might actually use modes please? I know the modes fairly well on their own, I just don't know how to apply them.

That's just it, you don't typically use modes over progressions at all, just single tone backings.
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