#3
honestly.. to me... its just speakers.

now i better get out of here before someone gets all "techincal explanation" on me
#4
Well. They are not the best, nor the worst. I feel that they lack some definition and are a bit too punchy (The bass kinda chokes the sound)

They seem to hate high Volume.

Behringer BG cabs are better. Anything loaded with CV30's or CV65's are way better.
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#5
Yes their bad because they have the lowest grade speakers in them that they can find.

I reccommend getting an Avatar for the same price if not less with highest grade celestions you can find.

AKA Celestion Vintage 30's
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#7
Yes.
Cheaply made, - crap quality,
Speakers are terrible.
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yes


could you please explain why?
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#10
Yes.
too much bass in them i'd say.
They got pretty low grade speakers in them.
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#11
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honestly.. to me... its just speakers.

now i better get out of here before someone gets all "techincal explanation" on me
Shitty speakers sound shitty.


... sorry about the highly technical explanation.
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honestly.. to me... its just speakers.

now i better get out of here before someone gets all "techincal explanation" on me


+1
I hate those, when they're not called for...

in this case, it kinda is called for. Celestions are amazing tho.
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#14
I've heard some people say Avatar cabs aren't exactly buitl great either, and their selling point are the speakers...
#15
Buy a poor cab but with Celestion Vintage 30's.

1. Open the cab
2. Tighten all the screws you may find including arround the speakers.
3. Seal the corners with some kind of silicone (the corner on the front board which holds the speakers)
4. Solder all cables, Maybe buy a new input-jack.
5. Make sure the mid column is straight
6. If wanted, seal around the speaker handles.
7. Close the cab and tighten goodly
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#16
There are alot of people who use them. Best thing to do is try it out, and if u like it, get it. Most people just swap the speakers out eventually anyway.
don't get the 4X10 cabs tho...
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#17
Quote by perkristian876
Buy a poor cab but with Celestion Vintage 30's.

1. Open the cab
2. Tighten all the screws you may find including arround the speakers.
3. Seal the corners with some kind of silicone (the corner on the front board which holds the speakers)
4. Solder all cables, Maybe buy a new input-jack.
5. Make sure the mid column is straight
6. If wanted, seal around the speaker handles.
7. Close the cab and tighten goodly

And it still doesn't help if it's made of crappy wood. (like the Marshall 2x12s)
#18
You all keep saying crappy speakers, but I am curious, what speakers exactly do they have?
#19
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I've heard some people say Avatar cabs aren't exactly buitl great either, and their selling point are the speakers...


Their house-made cabs aren't the greatest, but their Vintage cabs that are actually made by Mojo are really good
#20
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You all keep saying crappy speakers, but I am curious, what speakers exactly do they have?

Marshall/Celestion custom-designed speakers


If you know how to interpret advertising code, this means Marshall asked Celestion to get them some cheap-ass bullshit speakers from China and put their name on them. Celestion said: "Sure bitch, but only if you put your name on them, too."

BTW, I never said crappy!


I said shitty.
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Marshall/Celestion custom-designed speakers


If you know how to interpret advertising code, this means Marshall asked Celestion to get them some cheap-ass bullshit speakers from China and put their name on them. Celestion said: "Sure bitch, but only if you put your name on them, too."

BTW, I never said crappy!


I said shitty.

Lol, thanks for filling me in I had looked on the Marshall site and that's what it said, custom. 'That means bugger all to me' I thought. Thanks for the enlightenment
#22
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Shitty speakers sound shitty.


... sorry about the highly technical explanation.


whoa whoa slow down there mr "thomas edison" with your technical mumbo jumbo
#23
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Shitty speakers sound shitty.


... sorry about the highly technical explanation.

lol wut
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#24
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honestly.. to me... its just speakers.

now i better get out of here before someone gets all "techincal explanation" on me



Yeah dude, its JUST speakers, they JUST create the sound.

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#25
Okay I've owned one so I can speak from EXPERIENCE with it..

Yes they are ****e..

They are built from flimsy wood - probably like 8-10 ply.. Whereas good Marshall cabs are built from like 16-18 ply.. and the front and back baffles are made of particle board..

The cab as a whole is also a LOT smaller than a Marshall 1960 4x12 cabinet.. At LEAST 2 inches off each side.

The speakers have bad efficiency, making them really quiet and farty sounding, they also just generally sound crappy because the cabs are so small.. (It's comparable to think about a Valve Junior combo 8" speaker sound (MG cab sound).. Then a Valve junior through a 12" speaker (Marshall 1960 cab sound)..)

So there you have it, speaking FROM EXPERIENCE, not hear-say and bandwagon opinions, YES the Marshall MG cabinets are rubbish.
#26
If you go look at the price of the real celestion speakers and compare to the cost of an entire cab with 4 speakers from marshall you will see why they are crappy. 4 12" greenback celestions (one of their cheapest celestions) from antique electronics supply is 400 bucks. And the marshall cab with 4 chinese celestions is 279.00. And a decent empty cab is over a hundred bucks so do the math. And wood a cab is made of makes a huge difference just as it does in guitar bodies. And for the guy that says speakers are speakers, good speakers cost money. Try some of the elcheapo car stereo stuff from walmart sometime. I cant believe celestion is allowing marshall to even use their name on these things.
#27
Quote by appetite4gnr
There are alot of people who use them. Best thing to do is try it out, and if u like it, get it. Most people just swap the speakers out eventually anyway.
don't get the 4X10 cabs tho...

Because they're big and they say Marshall. They have such a reputation that they could pretty much put their name on anything and it would sell.
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