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#1
I'm reasonably sure that most of you have noticed this before, or atleast put some thought into it but I was just talking to a friend of mine about it and didn't really think much of it, or atleast of who originated it.

"Carbomb" by The Acacia Strain was the first useage of said breakdown, it's the introduction on the CD "And Life Is Very Long" but since then i've noticed it in...

"Thirteen" by Recon
"Ear To Ear" by Whitechapel
"Deathcard" by Underneath The Gun
"When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" by Emmure

Granted each of those bands has added there own slight modifications to it, but far too many people credit the wrong band for coming up with that "Br00t3l Br3akd0wn".
#2
instead of

000
000
000

they play

111
000
111
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#3
i'm sorry...were you under the impression that all hardcore bands weren't more or less the same?

i mean really, how many different ways can you play a palm muted open powerchord?
#4
Quote by BluesLP1990
i'm sorry...were you under the impression that all hardcore bands weren't more or less the same?

i mean really, how many different ways can you play a palm muted open powerchord?


lol yeah
#5
um...Carbomb and Thirteen have quite different patterns.


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i'm sorry...were you under the impression that all hardcore bands weren't more or less the same?


hahaha really?
how do Trash Talk and Recon sound the same?
#6
Ugh.. the bassist in my band is obsessed with Teh Br00talz. And it's annoying, so I just force us to jam on breakdowns in 5/4 or 7/8 . We're by no means a hardcore band anyway. Of course we do have one breakdown, but A) it's a joke, B) it's in a major key, and C) it's more of a pitch shifter solo anyway.

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#9
i doubt the acacia strain did it first. they probably ripped it off some metal band
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#10
breakdowns like

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01301431

quarter notes, palm mute. they are ALL the same
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#13
I'm pretty sure that I invented the breakdown.

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#16
Quote by SealCubMassacre
I wish crap deathcore bands would go back to using:

E
B
G
D-0-0-0 ETC 4 BEATDOWN BORE CORE
A-0-0-0
D-0-0-0

(As used by every pre 2006 core band)

Instead of the new and trendy and twiple br00tal:

E-
B-
G-
D-1-1-1 ETC 4 BEATDOWN BORE CORE
A-0-0-0
D-1-1-1

(As used by Emmure, Acacia Strain and every post 06 core band)

Anyone else know what i mean? Option B annoys me no end. Everyone is using it!

Apologies for mumbling gibberish. I am beyond bored.


I posted that in the HOTCT ages ago. I hate that breakdown now.
#18
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This one band I listen to, doesn't have breakdowns sometimes.


I don't believe you. Must be a really obscure and alternative band, to not use a breakdown sometimes.
Who dat?
#19
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alot of bands do the 101 chord thing during breakdowns, i've heard suicide silence and as blood runs black do it
#20
Because those bands have no originality. Its funny how the breakdown plays a big part in metalcore yet they don't put any effort into making a good breakdown.
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#29
I assume bands just use the dissonant breakdown so they can play the same thing twice... second time being slower in tempo and changing to a china cymbal every second beat... Wow

This sounds dumb to me

E
B
G
D-1-
A-0-
D-1-

I find this to be more effective

E-
B-
G-
D-
A-5-5-5-and having the second guitar like this-6-6-6-
D-1-1-1-------------------------------------------------0-0-0-

It creates dissonance within the chord, and between both the guitars.
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And to be fair, emphasis is usually more on the timing then the different notes/chords.

But even then...

^ dissonance overload!!!
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#33
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I'm reasonably sure that most of you have noticed this before, or atleast put some thought into it but I was just talking to a friend of mine about it and didn't really think much of it, or atleast of who originated it.

"Carbomb" by The Acacia Strain was the first useage of said breakdown, it's the introduction on the CD "And Life Is Very Long" but since then i've noticed it in...

"Thirteen" by Recon
"Ear To Ear" by Whitechapel
"Deathcard" by Underneath The Gun
"When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" by Emmure

Granted each of those bands has added there own slight modifications to it, but far too many people credit the wrong band for coming up with that "Br00t3l Br3akd0wn".


completely wrong. breakdowns started as early as 2000. As I Lay Dying had breakdowns on their 2002 EP. and i know bands have used breakdowns even before that. get your facts straight.
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#34
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completely wrong. breakdowns started as early as 2000. As I Lay Dying had breakdowns on their 2002 EP. and i know bands have used breakdowns even before that. get your facts straight.


Acacia Strain were, however, the first band to use a distorted quote from Anakin Skywalker in an interlude... I think...
#35
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Acacia Strain were, however, the first band to use a distorted quote from Anakin Skywalker in an interlude... I think...

ok. haha. little relevance there.
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#36
Quote by synestershadows
completely wrong. breakdowns started as early as 2000. As I Lay Dying had breakdowns on their 2002 EP. and i know bands have used breakdowns even before that. get your facts straight.

read the rest of the thread, idiot.
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#37
Quote by synestershadows
completely wrong. breakdowns started as early as 2000. As I Lay Dying had breakdowns on their 2002 EP. and i know bands have used breakdowns even before that. get your facts straight.

Breakdowns were started by 80s metal bands... (for example metallica... listen to for whom the bell tolls)
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#38
Quote by pmeg568c
i doubt the acacia strain did it first. they probably ripped it off some metal band

Pantera, they just added tritones or one or two power chords but the rhythms are the same a lot of the time.....

EDIT: Breakdowns are NOT a creation of Hardcore/Metalcore! They were in a lot of 80's Metal and I'm sure 60's and 70's as well.....Metallica - Creeping Death has a great breakdown....
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