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Just ordered a cheap turntable: it's a Sony PS LX56. Basically I'm 17 and my experience with turntables is...well non existent but I recently decided I want to get some records because I love retro stuff.

Long story short, I'm pleased by the quality (this setup probably isn't superior to 3xx KB/s mp3s but that's not the point..I'm no audiophile). However, the sound is quite weak and pretty trebly. Is this normal or is it because I'm running it straight into a simple 2.1 speaker setup using the phono outputs? Are there any components such as EQs that would perhaps boost and allow me to enhance the sound?

Thanks.

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even if they are powered a power amp would still most likely fix the problem a turntable is not a PC.
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#6
Yeah you need a power amp, any old thing will do.


Just go to a garage/yard sale and find an amp and speakers.
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Quote by maccas666
Yeah you need a power amp, any old thing will do.


Just go to a garage/yard sale and find an amp and speakers.


+1 just make sure that the amp has a built in phono amp, or it will sound just as bad as its sounding now
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#8
I think the turntable must have a phono amp otherwise it wouldn't sound through my active speakers no?

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Quote by MrCarrot
Oranges are actually a revolution though - they're the next step from Rectos IMO.
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Quote by philjay
I think the turntable must have a phono amp otherwise it wouldn't sound through my active speakers no?

/facepalm


Ignore what the turntables have.


You NEED an amp of some sort and speakers with an 8ohm independancy(not sure if i spelt taht right)
#10
Ok I just checked the manual which has a diagram of the insides. There is a motor assembly and phono amp there. In fact it even says in a diagram to plug the phono outputs directly to some speakers. So basically I'm all set but is there such thing as an EQ to make the signal bassier? Something I can put between the speaker and the turntable?

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Quote by MrCarrot
Oranges are actually a revolution though - they're the next step from Rectos IMO.
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Quote by philjay
Something I can put between the speaker and the turntable?


yeah an amp, just buy a cheep integrated amp

Quote by maccas666
/facepalm


Ignore what the turntables have.


You NEED an amp of some sort and speakers with an 8ohm independancy(not sure if i spelt taht right)


you dont need 8ohm speakers, that depends on the amp
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Quote by MrCarrot
Oranges are actually a revolution though - they're the next step from Rectos IMO.
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Quote by bemoth



you dont need 8ohm speakers, that depends on the amp

Oh ok, well my experience is mostly with older amps, and they all come standard with 8ohm speakers.
Maybe it was 4ohm, dammit, now you've got me thinking.
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Quote by maccas666
Oh ok, well my experience is mostly with older amps, and they all come standard with 8ohm speakers.
Maybe it was 4ohm, dammit, now you've got me thinking.


most older amps run at 4, 8 and sometimes(mostly tube amps) 16ohm. but 8ohm is pretty much standard
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#16
Ok so I just A/Bed the record vs an mp3 version with the same setup (not my my 2.1 one) and I'm hugely disappointed. I was expecting a warm sound from the record but got the opposite. Even after using the EQ on the amplifier I couldn't get the space filling sound you got with the mp3 file. Basically, in what ways are records better sounding and is there a reason why I'm not getting that "stereo" feel? The outputs and turntable and record are ALL stereo so that's not the problem...

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Quote by MrCarrot
Oranges are actually a revolution though - they're the next step from Rectos IMO.
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Quote by bemoth
most older amps run at 4, 8 and sometimes(mostly tube amps) 16ohm. but 8ohm is pretty much standard

Good, i thought it was
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Quote by philjay
Ok so I just A/Bed the record vs an mp3 version with the same setup (not my my 2.1 one) and I'm hugely disappointed. I was expecting a warm sound from the record but got the opposite. Even after using the EQ on the amplifier I couldn't get the space filling sound you got with the mp3 file. Basically, in what ways are records better sounding and is there a reason why I'm not getting that "stereo" feel? The outputs and turntable and record are ALL stereo so that's not the problem...



well, cheep equipment and not really knowing what your doing gets you a cheep sound, i only spent around $600-$800 and my system sounds really good...but i know what im doing and what amp's, tt's and so on that im looking for take your record and go to your local stereo dealer(not the ones that sells sony, hitachi, yamaha and the likes, but those that sells linn, nakamichi, McIntosh, opera, cyrus and the likes) and do an A/B test there, i bet you can hear the differance then
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Quote by philjay
Fair enough, in that case what would make the sound better, could a graphix equaliser help?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=015


it could, but frankly...you need a good amp/receiver(2ch) and a good pair of speakers, since your in the UK i say that you look up a cyrus I, II or III(the III might be a little on the costy side) and for speakers, well you can get used BW speaker for good money here so i guess that you can get them for ok money over there too...but the best experience is to build a cupple, you can make some horns that would play really good with a cyrus amp for £100-£150.

if you know someone that have a good stereo and a good tt, take your tt and go over to him/her and compere the sound from yours and theirs, a cheep, or rather low quality, tt always sounds low quality, there's some exceptions technics for example makes(or made, i don't really know their current line) some fairly cheep tts that played quite good(mostly because their audio technica ripoff pickup).
my real advice to you is to buy good quality stuff from the start(something that i have had to learn the hard way, i have bought some fairly stupid "catches" in my days ) and i think that you can get a thorens td160 for under £100 in the uk(the td160 is a tt from the 60s and the 70s, a period in time when you can buy almost any brand of amp or tt or tape deck and they hold a quality, both sound and build wise, that far surpasses the quality of the 80s(worst years ever), 90s and now)

my tips:

Amp:
Cyrus III: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cyrus-3-integrated-amplifier-in-excellent-condition_W0QQitemZ280207190817QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Cyrus II: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mission-CYRUS-2-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ190205711518QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
NAD 3020(one of the best value amps you can ever buy, nad is awesome amps): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NAD-3020-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ230229950312QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Musical Fidelity Elektra E10(calss A amp, rocks your socks of): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Musical-Fidelity-Elektra-E10-Stereo-amplifier-No-res_W0QQitemZ150223015361QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Speakers:
B&W DM309: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-W-DM309-Speakers_W0QQitemZ320225598977QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wharfedale Diamond 8.3: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pair-Wharfedale-Diamond-8-3-Floor-Standing-Loud-speaker_W0QQitemZ290211697718QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mission M74(mission=cyrus): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mission-M74-speakers-in-Beech_W0QQitemZ290212812084QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Linn Isobarik(if these go for under £250 buy em, you wont regret it): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linn-Isobarik-loudspeakers-complete-with-stands_W0QQitemZ320227518746QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Turntable(just in case you want to buy a high quality tt, not saying that yours wont do but these will probably sound a lot better):
Rega Planar III: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rega-Planar-3-turntable_W0QQitemZ110230269700QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thorens TD160: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thorens-TD-160-MkII-Turntable_W0QQitemZ280206212239QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thorens TD140 With a SME 3009(good buy if you ask me): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thorens-deck-with-SME-3009_W0QQitemZ170200102413QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Pro-Ject Expression I: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pro-ject-expression-1-turntable_W0QQitemZ120231316807QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And finally one of the best tt out there Linn Sondek LP12(anything under £350 is a bargain): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linn-Sondek-LP12-turntable_W0QQitemZ150224004704QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


well this is my .02
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