Poll: Too much time in history class crying over jews?
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Yes, it's just beating a dead horse
258 55%
No, it was a genocide and deserves a lot of attention
209 45%
Voters: 468.
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#1
So I bet my teacher that most people think we spend WAAAYYYY too much time crying over the Holocaust/Jews in history class. Sorry if I come across as insensitive, but it's true. Most people I know think the jews were the only targets and that makes me angry. Gays, blacks, Gypsies....plenty of other people died. So why do we waste so much time in class only learning about the jews? There's were many other things going on at the time. From 1938-1945 all we hear about is the jews. Sad stories, poems, direct sources, and stupid posters with fingerprints representing the people that died.

So, what do you guys think?
Do we spend too much time in the WW2 era of history class crying over the jews? Be honest.
#2
maybe I would be influenced by you argument if you hadn't put it in such a distasteful fashion
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#3
I think the reason why we focus on the Jewish is because those are the most who died. Don't quote me on that though.
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#10
its true, like 5 million others were killed. and i hate how in the 5 section WWII chapter in my US textbook, the last three sections are about the holocaust. WE ****ING GET IT HOUGHTON MIFFLIN! and i took AP european history last year, which had like a day of holocaust, which i loved. we had a smart teacher, knew we hated it.

and im jewish, so ha, give me pennies
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#11
My country killed 16,000,000 Indians, and tons of mexicans. Who has it worse now?


Edit: Keep in mind that when the blacks were enslaved, roughly the same amount of them died while in captivity, for example on the boat ride over, or just because of poor living conditions once they got here, or just plain because they were murdered. I'm referring to the Jews Vs. Black debate.

Also, that's okay. Because when America does something, it's not a human rights violation.
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Go to hell.

why? its just his opinon. Jews got the worst and that sux therefore they do deserve a huge part of this subject, but in my history class from 6-9th grad not a single time have we discussed the others. And yes he may have been a little harsh about it but he's right more than just Jews died.
#13
6 million jews as opposed to about 10,000 homos.
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#14
gays and blacks weren't that prominent in europe at that time so they don't get called out on that
also, blacks are just generaly associated with slavery
gypsies on the otherhand do get taught about in classes, but still more jews were killed
also, famous primary source books like the diary of anne frank and night were written by jews and about jews
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My country killed 16,000,000 Indians, and tons of mexicans. Who has it worse now?


and the blacks!! and yeah, i was about to put this down too
dont take any guff from these bastards man

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#16
by looking at your pictures, i can tell that youre just a major douchebag with the whole "I don't give a **** attitude," rebellious attitude. Get over yourself you f*cking poser.
#17
If you had just phrased that more delicately im sure that poll would look pretty damn different
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#18
Maybe because the jews made up a large population of Europe and they died mainly because of their race.
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#19
okay, more jews were killed than any other ethnicity. They were the specific target of the holocaust. while it was hitler's goal to have a racially "pure" Germany, he villified jews above all others. and they have been subject to violence and abuse for a longer and more consistent time period than any other group. The reason so much time is spent on this in schools is to ensure it never happens again. which, based on your opinion, seems like the right path.
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#20
6,000,000.thats a big number.
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#21
it might be based on the whole roasting them in ovens thing, or maybe the poison gassing them thing, i dont know.

Or it might be that it was all done for an ideology that put an effort in asserting its superiority and the inferiority of jews, slavs, gypsies, gays, blacks...

but then slavs would pretty much win the argument in the latter bombarossa...
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6 million jews as opposed to about 10,000 homos.


6 mil jews
5 mil others

37 billion with israeli political math
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#23
no doubt the holocaust was a terrible thing, but i think its also covered so much because of the jews' history of being persecuted for their beliefs. all throughout history jews have been hated on, and quite frankly i dont get it. what did they ever do? they just supported a faith like any other religion.
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#24
Yes.

It's pathetic. The Cathars never get a word of mention, and they were an entire religion wiped out by an army ON ORDERS from the pope. Oh yeah. As soon as the catholic church orders mass genocide, it's not mentioned in school.
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and the blacks!! and yeah, i was about to put this down too

Not even just that. Take into consideration how many people we killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the amount of people we killed in Nicuragua, the amount of people we kill in other Latin American countries, the people in Iraq who are being bombed/starve to death because our war got in the way of humanitarian causes. Or the people in Mexico who are dying because they can't feed their children because of NAFTA, or Hoover's flooding of New Orleans in the 30s. Or even Katrina, when the government did have a plan, but it couldn't be acted out because most of the equipment that was needed for the plan to work was sent to Iraq. Or in Vietnam, a lot of our land mines are still active and blow kids up.. etc. The Korean war when we bombed pikes (which we did punish Nazi's for doing at Nuremberg)

So, our government is responsible for more deaths than anyone else is, but it's not wrong because we did it.

Edit: Why would we want to cover the amount of homosexuals killed? Then we would have to admit that gays are treated unfairly, and god knows we wouldn't want to do that.
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why? its just his opinon. Jews got the worst and that sux therefore they do deserve a huge part of this subject, but in my history class from 6-9th grad not a single time have we discussed the others. And yes he may have been a little harsh about it but he's right more than just Jews died.


His question is:
"Do we spend too much time in the WW2 era of history class crying over the jews? Be honest."

Not:
"Do you think that the other minorities targeted by the Nazi's deserve more mentioned time?"

His whole post is bitching that his class spends too much time talking about what the Jewish people suffered. You think it deserves to not be mentioned? A lot of people in this thread have been mentioning that many other groups suffered and deserve mentioning. I totally agree with that. But to say discussing a group that suffered possibly one of the greatest crimes against humanity is "beating a dead horse" makes you and asshole.
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#27
No genocide, especially of this scale, should be forgotten. Jews got hit the worst of any ethnic group, so it only makes sense that most of the focus on holocaust victims should be placed on Jewish people. I cannot think of a single Jewish person I know who didn't have relatives imprisoned or killed in the Holocaust.

If humanity adapts the stance that looking back on events like this is 'beating a dead horse,' then we are a shameful society.

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#28
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Maybe because the jews made up a large population of Europe and they died mainly because of their race.


Pssst. Jewish isn't a race.
#29
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His question is:
"Do we spend too much time in the WW2 era of history class crying over the jews? Be honest."

Not:
"Do you think that the other minorities targeted by the Nazi's deserve more mentioned time?"

His whole post is bitching that his class spends too much time talking about what the Jewish people suffered. You think it deserves to not be mentioned? A lot of people in this thread have been mentioning that many other groups suffered and deserve mentioning. I totally agree with that. But to say discussing a group that suffered possibly one of the greatest crimes against humanity is "beating a dead horse" makes you and asshole.

I don't think it doesn't deserve to be mentioned, I just think they need to cover other things. And more importantly, it's something we've learned since elementary school. Every year we learn the same things over and over again, too much time IS spent on learning about the holocaust.
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#30
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although i hate hearing about it the jewish are better than black people i can see a coverstion like this
black guy: my people were enslaved
jewish guy:millions of my people died in a genocide
bg:but we were enslaved
jg:aw quit your bitching

Yeah, except you forgetting the part where Jews have been beat up on for the last... I don't know exactly, 3,000 or 4,000 years?


But I've actually never heard anyone say Jews are better than blacks.
#31
its also an example that there is pure evil in the world and we cannot forget this
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Yeah, except you forgetting the part where Jews have been beat up on for the last... I don't know exactly, 3,000 or 4,000 years?


But I've actually never heard anyone say Jews are better than blacks.

I've heard people say Jews had it worse than blacks.
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#34
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His question is:
"Do we spend too much time in the WW2 era of history class crying over the jews? Be honest."

Not:
"Do you think that the other minorities targeted by the Nazi's deserve more mentioned time?"

His whole post is bitching that his class spends too much time talking about what the Jewish people suffered. You think it deserves to not be mentioned? A lot of people in this thread have been mentioning that many other groups suffered and deserve mentioning. I totally agree with that. But to say discussing a group that suffered possibly one of the greatest crimes against humanity is "beating a dead horse" makes you and asshole.


By no means am I dismissing it. It was an absoluetly terrible thing, but I honestly believe we spend too much time on it. A day or 2 is fine. But 2 weeks is F#cking ridiculous
#35
Jews have had a rough time throughout the history of civilization.

Read the Old Testament (assuming there's any truth to it).
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No.... They aren't.....
#37
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No.... They aren't.....



Yes...they are.
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#38
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Jews have had a rough time throughout the history of civilization.

Read the Old Testament (assuming there's any truth to it).

Right, so covering something from a long ass time ago, though it's important, isn't exactly as relevant as something else that time could be used for. Especially since we already know what happened during the holocaust.
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No.... They aren't.....

You're thinking of Judaism, as in the belief. That's why they're called Jewish PEOPLE. You don't ever hear anyone called "Christian people."
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they aren't technically but they have kind of developed into a race

people refer to jewish descendents almost like people refer to someone of african american descent or caucasian
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