#1
ive been wanting a 12 string for the longest time now and im getting pretty close to getting one, any pros and cons about them compared to a 6 string? ive always played electric for 3 or 4 years now so im new to acoustics.

any downside to a 12 string? anything like that? your input would be appreciate guys, thanks.
#2
you get tired of them quickly, its good if you get a decently priced alvarez, seagull, or washburn, but don't get a martin or taylor cause you won't use it enough for it to be worth it
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#3
yeah....up and down in one, any barre chord playing will get you sore quick, but it will beef up your hand too
#4
Don't get an expensive one unless you're planning on being a pro. I'd get a cheap ibanez or epiphone. i hear the quality is pretty decent for a cheap one. Twelves are a lot different than sixes but they're a lot of fun. Not really any downsides but i would imagine string changes would be a pain and possibly tuning. not sure.
#5
12 string guitars are a B!&CH to tune, and personally they tend to hurt my fingers like hell because of the extra thin strings. Also it sucks ass to re-string them. Other than those few inconveniences i think that the sound a 12 string guitar makes is unbelievably awesome. They sound much richer than traditional 6 strings. If your willing to put up with a bit more effort and a tiny bit more pain, but want richer tone, go for it man!
#6
Doing rhythm with it, just chords mainly, sounds very full and lush. Much better in some cases than playing a song on a six-string. And since you have the octave strings, you can do some cool stuff with em. And if its an acoustic-electric, as i think it should be, throwing a chorus on it would sound crazy i think. I have a 12, and i like it alot.
#7
Quote by Sam_Prillaman
you get tired of them quickly


I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement.

The 12 string is a really fun instrument, but there are certain things you'll have to accept if you want to play it. Firstly, it's more limited in soloing capabilities than the standard 6 string, but excels in rhythm. There are exceptions, such as SRV's - Life by the Drop. You won't be doing any bends - not that they sound great on a 6 as it is, and you'll have to adjust to the variance in string seperation (much closer on the 12).

I would suggest you go play as many as you can, regardless of price and decide for yourself, because it sounds like you'd really enjoy it.


You won't get tired of it.
#8
thanks for all the input guys i really appreciate it, as said above, ive been going and playing every 12 i can and i really liked this takamine here

and yeah i dont plan on doing any soloing whatsoever, but as for everything else i think a 12 would be good for me. how come more musicians dont play them?
#9
Quote by guitarsolo_17
yeah....up and down in one, any barre chord playing will get you sore quick, but it will beef up your hand too


You know, I've never had this problem. What are you guys tuning your twelve stringers to? I tune mine a whole step down from standard, and my 12 string is easier on my left hand than both my Yamaha and my Martin tuned to standard.
#10
your endurance wont be very long at first if your hands arent very strong.

the pro is that you get a beautiful sound. and in the end... that's the main difference, is it not?
#11
hmm i dont know what everyones talking about with the hand hurting stuff. ive played them for 20-30 min straight at shops and its doesnt feel much different from a 6, i mean im not soloing or anything obviously but it doesnt feel and harder on my fingers. if anything easier since im just strumming cords and stuff and its more of a flat surface since theres more strings, i dont know. someone fill me in.

keep in mind when i play my electric, i play. i dont play like a weenie, i play until my fingers bleed and i cant feel anything in them anymore, maybe thats built up my strength and endurance or something but i dont know. im really looking forward to my 12.
#12
I had the opportunity to play the Roger McGuinn Martin D-7 a few months back. It really is "the swiss-army knife of guitars." You can get a subtle 12-string sound, but still manage all the runs and licks you want to on a 6-string. It's pretty great, if cost isn't an issue.

If cost IS an issue, then I'd go with the 12-string by Seagull.
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#13
price really isnt too big of a deal but i think thats just out of the range im looking for at the moment considering im in the market for a new elec amp also. but good lookin gout though man ill have to give that martin a shot one day when i come across one, looks far out.
#14
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thanks for all the input guys i really appreciate it, as said above, ive been going and playing every 12 i can and i really liked this takamine here

and yeah i dont plan on doing any soloing whatsoever, but as for everything else i think a 12 would be good for me. how come more musicians dont play them?



a kid that used to go to my school had that takamine, it truly sounds amazing, both unplugged and plugged....
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#15
I have a twelve string. As far as I'm concerned:

Positive:
Full sound
Great accompaniment to another acoustic guitar
Lead work sounds unique

Negative:
Takes a while to restring
Require more hand strength (especially for barre chords)
Less versatile for solos / bends (but still possible!)

Personally I love my 12 string. I have it tuned to Eb and it sounds truely amazing, espcially for the price.

/e: People always site tuning as a huge negative. Well the tuning stability on mine is great. Now if you're a JBT fan you might have a problem constantly tuning between open G, open D and standard, but otherwise, no problem!
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#18
If we're sharing 12 string vids.. what about John Butler?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9lU8cbH68

I love his guitars too, they're all so beautiful
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#19
yeah man, 12 strings are great for strumming cords and singing along to but it when u have to finger pick that u run into problems, its not undoable dont get me wrong its just that playing Classical Gas may be a bit of a task on a 12 string
#20
Well they're not really meant for that, but by no means is it impossible (look at John Butler), but I'd be pretty concerned about my fingers. 12 stringers are supposed to chew up your nails. My pick (been using only that one with my 12 string for the last few months) is starting to wear away. And I'd hazard a guess the majority of 12 string owners have a regular 6 string guitar, too (I don't tho :p Mine was a bit of an impulse buy)
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#21
i have an Alvarez ad60s12 and i love that guitar like no other. 12 strings sound much fuller. it pretty much sounds like you have a chorus pedal hooked up to your acoustic. the only thing that took some getting used to was fingering chords seeing as the fretboard is much more crowded with alot less space so you kinda have to get a feel for it. tuning isn't too bad but changing the strings takes longer obviously
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#22
yeah when i play them at the shops i sound like a retard probably because of the change in fingering chords and such, i misplace my fingers sometimes but im getting used to it. im going to pick up a yamaha fg-12 for 160 i think, and it has piezos on it so itll make tuning a little easier.

i cant get enough of how chords sounds on them and the way minor chords just sound so much darker and full, i love it.