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#1
digitech death metal, boss metalcore, line 6 uber metal.

i need the best metal sounding distortion out of these three. it has to sound good when downtuned and have serious amounts of gain and intensity. im looking to play with a tone along the lines of dark tranquillity, old inflames, lamb of god, scar symmetry etc. has to be heavy but clear and good for rythym and lead. im playing out of a ****ty spider amp but will be buying some sort of tube combo within a few months (this is just to give me half decent tone until that point). discuss!
#2
If you have to pick one of those, I guess go with the Boss.
I've played the Digitech and the Boss.

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#3
You're not going to get 'decent tone' out of a **** amp, whether you stick a pedal in front of it or not.
Don't bother buying yourself the pedal, just use the money to save towards the tube combo you were planning on getting.
Remember, the amp is responsible for 80% or more of your tone.
#4
Wait until you get your tube combo. Are you doing any gigs soon? if no, than it doesnt matter what your tone is! haha Those digital pedals will not get you the same sound as say a really heavy metal tube amp (peavey 5150,bugera 333xl if you are low on cash)
#5
once again im going to be buying the tube combo later in the summer. i dont start work again for a couple months so im just trying to make do with this amp (which really isn't that bad btw). i plan on using whatever pedal i buy now on the combo in the future
#6
The spider amp is a modeling amp yes?
Because I've heard that modeling amps don't go well at all with pedals, so once again, I'm just going to have to suggest saving.
#7
its actually not too bad. the situation im in is that my current pedal broke. and im looking at whats available within my budget (ive got my settings nailed for the best tone i can get its not that bad at all)
#8
Metal muff


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#9
ive heard the muff is awful fuzzy? i dont want anything thats insanely fuzzy.... i need searing smooth leads haha
#10
If you want smooth sharp searing leads get an overdrive pedal, everone is going to tell you to get a tubescreamer, so just do it.
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#11
SAVE YOUR MONEY AND GET A GOOD AMP.

If you MUST have a pedal right now go with the metal muff.
#12
i just youtubed the metalmuff.... im not liking the tone at all. as for the tubescreamer that will not help me... only answer within the parameters of my question please! i am going to buy a new amp but thats not in the works for a while.
#13
I wouldn't trust youtube when picking out anything soundwise. Try it yourself through a decent amp and you'll hear it that it sounds good.
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i just youtubed the metalmuff.... im not liking the tone at all. as for the tubescreamer that will not help me... only answer within the parameters of my question please! i am going to buy a new amp but thats not in the works for a while.

All three pedals you mentioned are crap, and will be absolutely useless when you do finally get the tube amp you're aiming for, they also aren't going to offer any sounds that the Spider can't make on it's own.

Save your money, buy a bugera amp and buy an OD pedal if you need one. You can't expect people to answer "in the parameters of the question" when the question itself makes no sense.
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#15
it actually makes plenty of sense. im under the impression that you are one of those spider haters who have never actually tried one. sure they are nothing special but under the right conditions they aren't that bad. with the pedal i currently have i could get great tone but its broke and i dont want to buy the same pedal again. the question makes perfect sense. im just looking for the best tone i can get out of this amp for now and im sure whatever i buy will sound much better when i get another amp in about 6 months. you spider haters need to chill... i can't get another amp right now and i still plan on playing my guitar in the time that il be saving for an amp. which is why i need the best i can get in a distortion pedal. if you dislike my question than don't post. otherwise everyone else in this thread who has been making suggestions has been very helpful!
#16
metal muff
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If you want smooth sharp searing leads get an overdrive pedal, everone is going to tell you to get a tubescreamer, so just do it.


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it actually makes plenty of sense. im under the impression that you are one of those spider haters who have never actually tried one. sure they are nothing special but under the right conditions they aren't that bad. with the pedal i currently have i could get great tone but its broke and i dont want to buy the same pedal again. the question makes perfect sense. im just looking for the best tone i can get out of this amp for now and im sure whatever i buy will sound much better when i get another amp in about 6 months. you spider haters need to chill... i can't get another amp right now and i still plan on playing my guitar in the time that il be saving for an amp. which is why i need the best i can get in a distortion pedal. if you dislike my question than don't post. otherwise everyone else in this thread who has been making suggestions has been very helpful!


Did it maybe hit you that when almost everyone tells you to get a new amp or a Metal Muff rather than those pedals... it might be a good idea? Also, the whole "none of the spider bashers have played one" argument is overused.

Edit: Oh, and definitely don't get a tubescreamer - it's not what you're looking for.
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#19
I'm a big fan of Boss pedals. For general practice I bet you would be fine with an MT-2 or possibly that new ML-2. I own the MT-2.
#20
Metal Muff.

And it'll sound great when you do get a tube amp

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Metal muff


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In this case no, The metal muff has a nice metal tone, but Played through a spider, it will sound like ****.

TS your best bet is to save the money, and put it towards a good tube amp. I personally hate the tone from distortion pedals, apart from some exceptions. But the true organic heavy, Pushed tube tone you get from a tube amp. And solid states, especially the modelling kid seem to tend to sound like **** when you put a pedal in front of it.
#22
Wow... I haven't been around here for a few months and the Metal Muff hype is still taking over.

Threadstarter - Listen to what some of these guys are saying and save your money. Putting a distortion or OD in front of a Spider isn't even worth it. No matter what pedal you're using or how you EQ it, it's going to sound thin and have the typical 'bees-in-a-can' sound going on. What until you've got your money saved up for the amp you really want and an OD to go along with it. You'd be wasting your money buying a distortion pedal in an attempt to make your Spider sound decent.
#24
the spider itself will be able to give you as good a metal tone as any of those pedals will. Save your money.
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#26
ya i have kinda ruled out the digitech (still gonna try it just in case). ive been borrowing my friends metalzone and it really isn't quite enough (its close but just doesnt get as hard as id like) im thinking right now either metal muff (i finally saw a vid with someone who actually knew how to use it right) or the metalcore (which appears to be pretty awesome and have decent tone) so out of those two what do you think?
#27
metal muff+a new (tube) amp. you'll be pretty happy with it until your ears call for the next level of tone.
#29
save your money and buy an amp. Distortion pedals are garbage, use OD's with the natural distortion of your amp.
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Distortion pedals are garbage


Wow, that's has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard all weekend.
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All three pedals you mentioned are crap, and will be absolutely useless when you do finally get the tube amp you're aiming for, they also aren't going to offer any sounds that the Spider can't make on it's own.

Save your money, buy a bugera amp and buy an OD pedal if you need one. You can't expect people to answer "in the parameters of the question" when the question itself makes no sense.



He's completely right actually. Ive used a spider and I know it sucks and Id say the exact same thing. Im not a inexperienced 'spider hater', I've played it and I hate it because of the fact that it's a terrible amp. Also, the spider has more than enough gain. Ironically, it seems you havnt used the spider enough to know that.
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#32
i dont like these "metal distortion" pedals. sure, they have decent tone, but frankily, they dont have the dynamics that i like. i strum soft, i strum hard, makes no difference, that pedal will make the same thing everytime. i would use something like a blues driver or a tubescreamer. the blues driver is really dynamic, and get get insane amounts of gain in it. really great pedal. dont be put off by the name. i usually use it for hard rock. i was able to get it to have a really great Disturbed tone with only that one pedal and an eq. no extra distortion or od pedals at all.
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Wow, that's has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard all weekend.


Why would someone use a distortion pedal with a **** amp if they could get an amp with good natural distortion?

Natural distortion >>>>>>dist. pedal.
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Why would someone use a distortion pedal with a **** amp if they could get an amp with good natural distortion?

Natural distortion >>>>>>dist. pedal.


Maybe because not everyone is in a situation to afford good tube amp. To say distortion pedals are "garbage" is a clear sign of ignorance.
#35
Well its not ignorance. Its true, despite peoples inabilities to pay for expensive tube amps. If you cant pay for a good amp, thats unfortunate, but it doesnt make distortion pedals sound any better.
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#36
I'm curious to hear how that's true. There are plenty of distortion pedals out there that sound perfectly fine.
#37
Of the three you've mentioned, the Uber Metal is held in high regard. I personally haven't tried it though. I do use my Metal Master through the clean channel of my Spider, and while it sounds slightly better than the on board distortion, but not much. I'm inclined to agree with the others, the amount of bennefit a pedal will add to the Spider isn't much, the $100 or so would be better applied to a new amp. That said, something like a Metal Muff may enhance the sound certain tube amps, so that may be an option for you.
#38
They sound fine, but more often than not, theres a cheaper OD that sounds alot better.
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#39
Not everyone plays a tube amp and are looking for a boost. That's where a distortion pedal comes in handy for those who have a SS amp or even want a different lead/rhythm tone than their amp produces.
#40
Im not going to start a tube vs. ss debate, but distortion pedals generally cause a loss of dynamics of ones picking and pleasant feedback overtones. So I guess if you want muddy gain that covers up your sloppy playing, then yes, distortion is the answer.
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