#1
Okay, so I'm sort of new, I guess, to songwriting and stuff. So my question is (probably stupid):

How do you write lyrics to songs and get a good "flow". I posted a song quite a while ago actually and I got told that the flow was a little off or something. How do I achieve good flow.

Help would be awesome.
Punctuation it the difference between:
"I help my Uncle Jack off a horse."
and
"i helped my uncle jack off a horse"


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#2
Don't make run-on-y sentences :S Thats the only problem I ever have
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#3
sometimes, i make like.... odd / weird / strange / screwed up small stories

& write lyrics for it... like imagine a weird small music video of the "story" & make up lyrics that would go along with what YOU imagine it to be like, im actually doing that right now

its REALLY weird, its about this serial killer who cuts up body parts & uses them to make a shrine for a person hes seen around a few times & grows to fall in love with her, & then eventually kidnaps her & takes her to the shrine he made for her & then shes like totally freaked out (i wonder why...) & then she tries to run away & then he kills her so she dont tell anyone about him & then he cant stand living without her so he kills himself....

like i said its REALLY weird & strange, it'll probably be like at least 5 minutes long or so, & i may even make a follow up to it
might even write a book! lol

anyway, yeah
#4
Read. That always helps.

Read poetry especially, it really will help you get a good idea for flow.

Watch syllable count, add in rhyme and internal rhyme, alliteration, assonance and consonance. Just make sure you know yourself what rhythm you want.
#5
Jammydude44 knows what he's talking about. Read lots and lots of poetry. One of the best ways to learn to write is to read.

Also, you need to learn how to find the beat. That's the key to flow. When you say a word, you put the emphasis on a specific syllable--be mindful of where that is. Read your lines out loud and make sure it feels easy to say, and sounds poetic instead of just like normal sentences.
#6
totally agree... lyrics aren't sentences - it isn't prose. it's a verse that will be put on a beat and a melody. you need a balance between making sense and having a poetic and rythmic flow.
#7
awesome guys. that really helps. thanks a million.
Punctuation it the difference between:
"I help my Uncle Jack off a horse."
and
"i helped my uncle jack off a horse"


Quote by roadmax
..and how do i make the bridge erect. ..


Quote by Vampire 255
make it watch porn?

#8
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sometimes, i make like.... odd / weird / strange / screwed up small stories

& write lyrics for it... like imagine a weird small music video of the "story" & make up lyrics that would go along with what YOU imagine it to be like, im actually doing that right now

its REALLY weird, its about this serial killer who cuts up body parts & uses them to make a shrine for a person hes seen around a few times & grows to fall in love with her, & then eventually kidnaps her & takes her to the shrine he made for her & then shes like totally freaked out (i wonder why...) & then she tries to run away & then he kills her so she dont tell anyone about him & then he cant stand living without her so he kills himself....

like i said its REALLY weird & strange, it'll probably be like at least 5 minutes long or so, & i may even make a follow up to it
might even write a book! lol

anyway, yeah

Awesome!!!
I love your story!
I love screwed up and twisted stuff like this...!


On writing lyrics, here's what Trent Reznor (from Nine Inch Nails) did to write lyrics for his songs. In the beginning when he started writing lyrics, although he had loads of ideas, all the lyrics came out to be crap. So he wasn't happy with his work. Then he used to write journals a lot. And he used to write his journals in a pretty lyrical way. So he started taking bits and pieces out of his journals and make lyrics out of them (bits from journal entries he never wanted anyone to read). Thats why his lyrics always end up very narrative like. But I've gotta say Trent's lyrics are amazing and portray an immense amount of emotions and pain with them. He's one of my favorite lyricist.

So writing journals is a good to get good with lyrics. When you're writing journals its very personal and you write it for yourself. You write it in a way that only you would read it. So they end up having a lot of true emotions behind them.

Writing journals help you discover your inner self, help you portray your feelings and emotions through words (and you get better at it). So that way it'll immensely help you with your lyrics writing too. I think every lyricist should keep a journal. Now not a diary, but a journal. Though diary is good too, but you tend to write a lot of crap in diaries. Journals are more subjective and personal.
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#9
Your song does NOT NOT NOT have to make since

listen to nirvana nothing makes since but you get what their saying its kind of like that
#10
I write lyrics as i play a riff. Basicly i get a good riff or a starter lyric with a way to sing it in my head. come up with a riff. then proceed to play what i have and see where i naturaly want to go. trying to thing of the next line line by line and singin it each time to see how it flows.

even then most times the lyrcis have to be reworked to have a stronger meaning or message.