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#1
Just wondering what are some good low watt TUBE amps that can play metal either on its own or with an OD pedal of some sort.

There are plenty of amps that can play metal but they have way too much wattage for someone who will probly never gig, jam with people but no gig

I don't mean this kind of metal http://youtube.com/watch?v=F4GsoqbvONs lol

This kind http://youtube.com/watch?v=uebInqG1pJI&feature=related and this http://youtube.com/watch?v=6MAOLbylg8A


Any?
#2
You could run an OD in front of a Peavey Valveking, so yeah. It comes in a 1x12.
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You could run an OD in front of a Peavey Valveking, so yeah. It comes in a 1x12.


I consider 50 watts too much lol
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I consider 50 watts too much lol


Eh sorry lol. Palomino V8 5W perhaps? Obviously still it'd require an OD.
#5
Peavey Windsor's pretty much a hot rodded JCM, that can qualify as a metal amp, I guess. It's 20W, and I think the attenuator takes it down to 5 or so.
#6
I know its more wattage then you want but a peavey xxx will make good metal tones at low volume...I have a peavey xxx 1x12 combo and it sounds good at low volumes and it has more than enough reserve to destroy as many eardrums as you may need to...you can often find pretty good deals on used ones and if you change the stock speaker they sound pretty damn good
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#7
The valveking comes in 5 watts? too. Though its called the Peavey Royal 8. But im pretty sure its just like the the valvekings. it is under the valveking space on peaveys website
#8
There's that little ibanez 5 watter than can do metal-valbee. Other than that a palomino may be close with an od but not too many metal sounds since its not meant for it. And yeah my triple xxx can be at low volume and do good metal tho it sounds much better with the volume up.
#9
ive heard great things about the peavey royal 8...i know a guy who loved it soo much he got a cuztom case for it
#10
Why not just get a solid state amp if you're going to play metal at low volumes?
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#11
I think in this case, a solid state amp would be better.
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Peavey Windsor's pretty much a hot rodded JCM, that can qualify as a metal amp, I guess. It's 20W, and I think the attenuator takes it down to 5 or so.


The Windsor Studio combo doesn't sound like the standard head and from what I've heard so far from reviews and other sources, (Thank you Gear Wire guy for making every single demo as boring as the last. ) isn't too great sounding.

I've really played one. Some guy around here had got one at Ebay and brought it to a guitar store I frequent. I wasn't really too impressed.

I suppose it was solid for 300 bucks though I guess.

You could get a nice Randall solid state combo. Those things are pretty rocking.

If you really want to go with a valve amp, check out the Peavey JSX Mini Colossal.

5 watts and all the gain you could want.
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Mini Colossal is pretty good for metal, but it squeals like a pig sometimes.
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Mini Colossal is pretty good for metal, but it squeals like a pig sometimes.


Not a big fan of the tremolo on it either.
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Not a big fan of the tremolo on it either.

Ha, owned. All the extra bling on the Mini Colossal is BS other than the little gain maintaining thingy knob.
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Ha, owned. All the extra bling on the Mini Colossal is BS other than the little gain maintaining thingy knob.


For sure. What were they thinking?


'Let's make a mini JSX to compete with the Valve Juniors and the Little Giants. But we'll make this one more metal orientated!'

'Okay! But let's throw in tremolo! They don't need chorus, tremolo is where it's at nowadays.'

'Great idea, this is going to go well, I can feel it...'



It probably didn't go like that though.

It was probably more of a Satriani just going, 'put tremolo on the thing'
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It was probably more of a Satriani just going, 'put tremolo on the thing'


I've never hear Satriani with noticeable tremolo in any of his songs, why the hell is tremolo even on that thing?
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I've never hear Satriani with noticeable tremolo in any of his songs, why the hell is tremolo even on that thing?


I don't know? Maybe Satch was feeling wacky?

Maybe when Peavey was making the amp, they had some employee test it out and thought, 'Man, this needs tremolo.'
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Midnight had tremolo? Dude I need freaking hearing aids now, so much for tone freak title in my neck of the woods.
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Peavey Mini Colossal JSX
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Why not just get a solid state amp if you're going to play metal at low volumes?

Good idea. Check out a JSX Mini Collossal, either way.
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Low wattage amps are made to get classic natural overdrive at reasonable volumes. Metal comes from lots of preamp gain. You can pretty much play any amp designed for metal with the master on 1 and it'll still sound good.
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Low wattage amps are made to get classic natural overdrive at reasonable volumes. Metal comes from lots of preamp gain. You can pretty much play any amp designed for metal with the master on 1 and it'll still sound good.

Ehhh...It won't sound good.

It'll sound like the gain was pushed to 20, and the bass to -5, but yeah, it will have gain all the way to 0.

Mark IV's go all the way down to 15 watts. They're still loud as fack though. They do have a recording out you can use with headphones though....
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#26
Krank Rev Jr will do it though it's 20W and isn't exactly low volume, but it's always loud enough for gigs if you needed it and for practicing with a band.

A Valve Junior can get that much gain with an OD over it, they get quite a bit of gain by themselves. A modded one would probably be able to get that much.

An Ibanez Valbee supposively has enough gain to play that as well but I've never seen one in the states so I can't confirm this.
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#27
The Krank Rev Jr is on my short list of amps I'm considering at the moment. I'm also considering a Crate 16 watt with an OD, but I have no idea what it would sound like.
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I've heard good things about the Tiny Terror, the Blackhearts and the Lanyec AC15 (was it AC15? I might think of the wrong model), but I haven't tried any of them myself.

I am currently in the same situation as you though, so this thread is relevant to my interests.
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Well I want a tube amp because I hear it's awsomeness every weekend when I have lessons. Also I'm just working part time for the rest of the year til I go back to school so I can crank the thing when no one is home.

Crate seems cool but I checked L+M brand list and it wasnt there.

The Peavey XXX seems promising

Suppose I can sound proof our basement if I don;t have anything I realy like lol
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Ehhh...It won't sound good.

It'll sound like the gain was pushed to 20, and the bass to -5, but yeah, it will have gain all the way to 10.

Mark IV's go all the way down to 15 watts. They're still loud as fack though. They do have a recording out you can use with headphones though....
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#31
My Tiny Terror does metal perfectly when boosted with my Bad Monkey. Even running at 7 watts I never turn the volume past 12 o'clock because it gets too loud to bear.
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#32
Tiny Terror FTW
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I know its more wattage then you want but a peavey xxx will make good metal tones at low volume...I have a peavey xxx 1x12 combo and it sounds good at low volumes and it has more than enough reserve to destroy as many eardrums as you may need to...you can often find pretty good deals on used ones and if you change the stock speaker they sound pretty damn good


Does the 40 watt one have a master volume?
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Have you looked at the Randall MTS Series? They have a 15 watt amp. It's called the RM20CB. You can switch preamp modules out of it which gives you a wide variety of sounds. And it's ALL TUBE! You should check it out.
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Have you looked at the Randall MTS Series? They have a 15 watt amp. It's called the RM20CB. You can switch preamp modules out of it which gives you a wide variety of sounds. And it's ALL TUBE! You should check it out.


Cool, but didn't find any reviews of it on here, and they dont cary Randall at L+M.

Also is there any mods you can do to reduce the amps watts?
#37
The Mesa Express amps can get you Iron Maiden tones on their own. They'd need an eq or another pedal to get you Metallica tones. Their 5-W settings have looser bass their their 25 or 50 watt settings, though.
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Krank Rev Jr will do it though it's 20W and isn't exactly low volume, but it's always loud enough for gigs if you needed it and for practicing with a band.

A Valve Junior can get that much gain with an OD over it, they get quite a bit of gain by themselves. A modded one would probably be able to get that much.

An Ibanez Valbee supposively has enough gain to play that as well but I've never seen one in the states so I can't confirm this.


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#39
I'm on board with the Tiny Terror. Maybe a little expensive, but it'll do uber distorted stuff at really reasonable volumes. I think it's a little warmer than the Rev Jr as well (though that is an exceptional amp itself and may be what you're ultimately looking for). Plus it comes as a combo if that's your thing.
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#40
You could also check out the Bogner Alchemist combo. It is switchable between 20 and 40 watts, as already stated though 20 watts is pretty ****ing loud. It would definately get you the tones you seek though.
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