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What do you guys think it means for someone to truly be a musical genius? I've seen a lot of theories, but I never could really come up with a definitive answer.
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if their name is john petrucci
no other requirements really
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#4
Dang. I was ready for some action packed youtube video featuring a 4 year old asian guy with a guitar...not this time, eh?
#6
I think it's subjective. To me Steven Wilson and Michael Akerfeldt are musical geniuses because their music completely captivates the essence of my being. To some poor souls Fiddy Cent is a musical genius.
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That's because there is no definitive answer.

This.

Please don't try to call Kurt Cobain one, though.
#8
Being able to make intelligent music that is great beyond argument?

You might not like x brand of music but still recognise the genius in it.
#9
I've heard some people say that the definitive quality of a music genius is the ability to keep multiple melodies in your head at the same time. Which gives me an idea...see how many simple melodies you can listen to at the same time in your head.

P.S some people is wikipedia.
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#11
Anybody who makes amazing sounding music. They don't have to be technically skilled or anything, just make great creative music.
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#12
Someone who can write the perfect song, whether you can play 4,000 arpeggios in 3.17 seconds is irrelevant to genius IMO.
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Anybody who makes amazing sounding music. They don't have to be technically skilled or anything, just make great creative music.


Depends what you mean by creative. I think this is an impossible thing to describe.
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You have to be me in order to be a music genius.

Unfortunately for the rest of you, I'm the one and only me.
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What the hell do you mean by IF a bunch of music slobs like you? IF what?
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This.

Please don't try to call Kurt Cobain one, though.


Kurt Cobain is a TRUE musical genius
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Quote by Anarion614
That's because there is no definitive answer.

that about sums up my opinion.
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When they've mastered sound making so thoroughly that they can produce any feeling they choose.


Best answer I've seen. Here's to you!!
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Being able to hold more than one melody in your head at one time. People that can do that are people with high IQs.
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#21
if their name is john petrucci

he's right
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Depends what you mean by creative. I think this is an impossible thing to describe.

It just seems like you can feel it when someones truly creative.
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It just seems like you can feel it when someones truly creative.


Yeah, but a lot of things could be considered "creative". Playing a tune by farting is "creative". Using an F1 engine to play a song is "creative".
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When they've mastered sound making so thoroughly that they can produce any feeling they choose.


I agree completely with this statement.
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Yeah, but a lot of things could be considered "creative". Playing a tune by farting is "creative". Using an F1 engine to play a song is "creative".

Yeah, but that seems like forced creativity. True creativity is not forced.
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#27
Well, subjectively being able to express your feelings in music to the listening pleasure of others would constitute musical genius.

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Yeah, but that seems like forced creativity. True creativity is not forced.

The sheer pretentiousness in that statement made me throw up a little.
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Quote by hrdcorelaxplaya
The sheer pretentiousness in that statement made me throw up a little.

That wasn't meant to be a pretentious statement. I just said true creativity seems like it doesn't have to be forced.
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<<<<<<<< this guy is a total TRUE music genius.

Pssh, go be smelly somewhere else you damn crust punk.
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Quote by Glimsom
Yeah, but a lot of things could be considered "creative". Playing a tune by farting is "creative". Using an F1 engine to play a song is "creative".

If it was a statement on making something beautiful out of something ugly, I'd consider it brilliant. If they put a melody to it, and made it sound beautiful, anyway.
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Mikael Akerfeldt, Karl Sanders and Dave Mustaine (his Metallica stuff, which was the BEST Metallica stuff, and his Megadeth stuff). That is what epitomizes a musical genius IMO.
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Thank you


funny story, a kid at my school was wearing a scarface suit today.


How ironic... Well, good thing I believe in the concepts of fate, otherwise I would find that really weird.
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Quote by Jack Off Jill
Being able to hold more than one melody in your head at one time. People that can do that are people with high IQs.
They say Mozart could write down the music of one thing he was writing, while composing the music of another in his head.

Anyways, if I were to give an example, I would say Mozart's Reqiuem in D Minor. He builds up layers of music, and there are eventually, 7, I think, layers of music at once. I've looked at the sheet, and he gets the choir's to do the layers that make it sound very haunting and dissonant, and eventually he brings in the harmony.

I liked this video where he is composing the 7th movement. Of course it's not really him, but the movie didn't win the Oscar for best picture for nothing.
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Quote by Jack Off Jill
If it was a statement on making something beautiful out of something ugly, I'd consider it brilliant. If they put a melody to it, and made it sound beautiful, anyway.

That is true and not everybody can pull that off successfully, that's why those who can are special.
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#39
IMO, someone who can write amazing music by themselves, that is more than just some chords and a brief solo.
People like Tuomas from Nightwish or Jari from Wintersun.
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Quote by StrokeMidnight
I've heard some people say that the definitive quality of a music genius is the ability to keep multiple melodies in your head at the same time. Which gives me an idea...see how many simple melodies you can listen to at the same time in your head.

P.S some people is wikipedia.


.... multiple melodies? I can do that. there are a bunch of songs where I can hear in my head the bass and guitar parts (that have different melodies, not just the bass copying the guitar) at the same time, as well as the singing.

am i a musical genius now?
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