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#1
i am reading this book for the third time in 6 years and find it as interesting as the first time i picked it up.
tha characters are brilliant,especially o'brian, and winston's world is an incredibly terrifying vision of a negative utopia and how easy country can slide into a totalatarian state in the name of democracy.
although large parts of the book are based on some soviet comparisons,i find this book to be relevant in our times as well
does anyone agree?disagree?
thoughts or critisism on this book plz
#3
my friend was telling me about that book, ill have to pick it up when the library goes off strike.
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#4
my second favorite book of all time....
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#11
War is Peace
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Amazing. Should be a required reading for everyone.
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#12
great book. We are reading it in English this year, but I read it already in grade 7. Of course I had to read it about 5 times in grade 7 to understand it, but thats life. Its very similar to Brave New World in many ways.
#13
only because they are negative utopias
1984 is much much better than brave new world
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great book. We are reading it in English this year, but I read it already in grade 7. Of course I had to read it about 5 times in grade 7 to understand it, but thats life. Its very similar to Brave New World in many ways.


George Orwell actually ended up sending a copy of 1984 to Aldous Huxley (author of Brave New World) when Brave New World was released, noting how the two were similar. Aldous Huxley then responded in a letter essentially saying "Yeah, but mine's way better because it would definitely turn out like this eventually, even in the case of your book. Yours was alright though." It kind of made me dislike Huxley a little to read it, but it's interesting nonetheless.
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I wish Orwell included the rest of Goldstein's book though, the chapters that were included were amazing.
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#20
I adore this book, I really do. The ending never ceases to leave me with a slight chill...I have to say I don't think I really engage with the characters, but it isn't a book lead or dominated by its characters; the ideology of the book is its driving force. I think its a novel that encapsulates and defines 20th Century living in the western world. It's weird to think how concepts such as "room 101" and "big brother" have been adapted into English culture. Much like More "killed the epic" with Paradise Lost, no author can better 1984 in the dystopian genre.

Please, just read it.
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I was about to post that....

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Good book though. Anyone read Animal Farm?


I thoroughly enjoyed Animal Farm, I thought it was brilliant. Oddly enough I couldn't finish 1984...
#23
I love 1984 and Animal Farm. They are both terrific books - both very captivating and symbolic of human nature, yet they both provide a very (or at relatively) easy read if you just feel like reading instead of being analytical.

I really should reread those books sometime in the near future...
#24
1984 is my favorite book. It completely changed my outlook on life and my political stance. Animal Farm is good too, as is Homage to Catalonia, which is actually non-fiction, it's Orwell's experience in the Spanish Civil War, a must read.
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#25
yeah i liked animal farm more, towards the end though I kept expecting the old donkey to lead an uprising against the pigs haha thats what hollywood movies have done to me.

I'm reading The Catcher in the Rye at the momet and what up with the main character he's a douche haha
#27
Catcher in the Rye managed to get me to hate reading for about a month. That book, it pissed me off more than anything.
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dystopia ftw!
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#30
I really liked The Catcher in the Rye too, as well as To Kill a Mocking Bird. All of these are fantastic books really...

Would anyone care to offer up some other essential reading, or at least recommend some more good books? I wouldn't mind immersing myself in a good read.
#32
1984 is amazing. Brave New World just isn't.

Aldous Huxley must've had a great ego, as the book seems to be written as a personal statement instead of art. He should've stuck with the Doors of Perception. He inspired at least one big rock act there

George Orwell is being so genuine throughout the book, and makes you think. I read it when I was 14 in English (I'm Norwegian btw), and I understood pretty much most of it.
I'm looking forward to reading it again in some years.
#33
no 1) the word you are looking for it anti-utopia

no 2) Aldous Huxley, was in fact one of Georges professors.

no 3) I read this book 10 times in one year, who's gonna beat that?
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#37
actually crustyreed,huxley was a tutor i think
and negative utopia is the correct term
and orwell was much better
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no 1) the word you are looking for it anti-utopia

no 2) Aldous Huxley, was in fact one of Georges professors.

no 3) I read this book 10 times in one year, who's gonna beat that?


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I spent many a futile hour in maths class pissing around trying to get numbers to misbehave using that little loophole.


I'm not ignorant of the actual meaning in the book, I just thought I'd share a more literal approach that I once took

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EDIT: you're all wrong, or at least not entirely efficient with your language. the word for a negative utopia is dystopia . Quite simple really. use it.

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no 1) the word you are looking for it anti-utopia

no 2) Aldous Huxley, was in fact one of Georges professors.

no 3) I read this book 10 times in one year, who's gonna beat that?


don't wanna be a dick or anything but there is a word for "anti-utopia"...it's dystopia...anyhow, 1984 was a pretty good book, I read it earlier this year, found it quite interesting, but mainly because of the ideas...I found the actual story to be nothing too special...I actually enjoyed most of brave new world as well, though many people didn't like it too much...I think both books are very applicable in their basic concepts, it's interesting how they are almost complete opposites, but the fundamental goals of the world controllers in both books are actually the same...anyhow, I read animal farm a couple days ago and enjoyed that the most of the three...shows how succeptible the masses can be to lies and ideas spread by governments...good books!

EDIT: ^^sorry I didn't realize the guy above me already mentioned the dystopia=negative utopia thing...
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