#1
I'm ordering it from India, so there's no chance I'm gonna get my hands on either of the two untill it gets here. And I need help, really quick!

My budget is $700, max.

I'm looking at the Taylor 110e -
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Taylor-110E-Dreadnought-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=514895

and this Seagull S6 with QII pickups -
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seagull-SSeries-S6-CW-Cedar-GT-Quantum-II-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512251

I can't try them myself, so I'm gonna have to count on the reviews and your opinions!
Oh, and I play Blues, Rock, fingerstyle guitar, and am learning Jazz.

I want to know how you guys think they sound like, and which one you'd go for.

EDIT: I can't be affording a badly setup guitar, I like a low action.
Last edited by shpongle at Mar 21, 2008,
#2
My vote is the Seagull. I'm an ardent supporter of Seagull; they make very fine guitars, especially the one you picked.

Edit: as for a review? I own an Original S6, and it hasn't let me down to date. Most people complain about the satin finish and the cedar top being trouble (dinging and denting too easily), but I've had no trouble with mine. I suppose it's because I take care of it, but all guitarists should protect their instruments.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#3
Oh great! that was quick! What style do you play? I was a little concerned about the extra nut width in the Seagull. Does it need to get used to? And is the Seagull Performer series the same?
#4
The taylor 110 isn't a nice guitar. Don't get it.

The seagul is a good guitar but I'd get the S6 that doesn't have a cutaway and electronics and then spend $100 for a good B-Band or LR-Baggs undersaddle transducer. You will save yourself a couple hundred bucks and have a better guitar.
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#5
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Oh great! that was quick! What style do you play? I was a little concerned about the extra nut width in the Seagull. Does it need to get used to? And is the Seagull Performer series the same?

Depends on the side of your hands. My hands (with fingers flat and held together) is 8.25" from edge of wrist to tip of index finger, and 5.25" from the edge of my hand to my thumb's knuckle (held against my hand). I've got big hands, so this Seagull is like a dream come true for me. As far as I know, unless specially stated (as in their Slimline guitar) the nut width is the same.

I play a range of styles. Blues, jazz, pop, rock, country, etc. I haven't found my Seagull to be a hinderance to any of these. The stock tuners are fantastic, and the only adjustment I made was switching out the TUSQ saddle, nut, and pins for bone. This is just my preference for all my guitars. TUSQ is not an ordinary plastic; it attempts to replicate the sound quality of bone, and does a fairly accurate job.

Also, the guitar you're looking at has a high-gloss finish. This means it will be less susceptible to dents and dings than most of the other guitars by Seagull, which have a satin finish.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#6
I would DEFINITELY take the seagull. the taylor at that price range just isnt worth it. it's a nice guitar(sorta), but it would only be worth buying if you paid about 50-60% of that price.

From my experience, the seagull is one of the most versatile guitars out there. the sound is a good mix between traditional and modern sounds. it's not too thin, it's not thick either, which makes it perfect for strumming AND fingerstyle. the wide neck is also nice. i have somewhat sausage like and stubby fingers, but i still find the seagull neck to be comfortable. it helps me to get clean chords out when im strumming.
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My vote is the Seagull. I'm an ardent supporter of Seagull; they make very fine guitars, especially the one you picked.

Edit: as for a review? I own an Original S6, and it hasn't let me down to date. Most people complain about the satin finish and the cedar top being trouble (dinging and denting too easily), but I've had no trouble with mine. I suppose it's because I take care of it, but all guitarists should protect their instruments.


My friend has an S6 and its true that the finish does scratch/dent easily. However such 'battlescars' are not a bad thing. Just shows that the instrument is just that, and one that gets a lot of attention to boot.

And those cheap Taylors are total bunk. Paying for the name. Played one in the shop and hated it
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My friend has an S6 and its true that the finish does scratch/dent easily. However such 'battlescars' are not a bad thing. Just shows that the instrument is just that, and one that gets a lot of attention to boot.

And those cheap Taylors are total bunk. Paying for the name. Played one in the shop and hated it

Note: if you're terribly concerned about dents, you can steam some of them out. I haven't tried it, but I hear that the satin finish is perfect for steaming out dents without the need for refinishing. Anyone back this up?
Sincerely, Chad.
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#9
oh you silly people there is nothing junk about a cheap taylor. You are a fool if you think all you are paying for is the name. i own one its almost four years old and doesnt have a single problem. If you are gonna say something is junk please give a rational explanation.
i own a 110 and i play on my fathers seagulls quite often they are both fine guitars and are well made however i will give what i see as pros and cons with each instead of just blurting out there junk with out ever owning or played one for longer than ten minutes.
seagull: Pros
1 price very good value
2 well made insturment with quality wood and good internall bracing
3 comes with hard case and that is quite important
seagull cons:
1 i personally dont like the wider neck however if you have short stubby fingers like my father then it is actually a pro
2 very soft top (but hey its a guitar you play it your gonna ding and dent it up get over it)
3 i am personnaly not a big fan of cedar topped guitars but that is solely my personall preference

Taylor pros
1 the most comfortable neck i have ever played set up perfectly out of the box
2 well engineered and pattented taylor bolt on neck (simplified from the version used on 400 series and up) the neck angle neck relief action and fretboard are all set up by the fine poeple at taylor so you dont have to wait for someone else to do it at the quitar store.
3 tone i love the tone of the taylor not as bassy as a martin but you either love it or hate it
4 playability there is no 600 dollar guitar that i have ever played that plays as comfortable and fast all the way up the neck as a taylor guitar
5 solid spruce top and ebony bridge and neck and scalloped spruce bracing very good quality woods in all aspects of the taylor
6 customer service and essentally a lifetime warranty for original owners taylor tends to bend over backwards for there customers
taylor cons:
1 price ouch it hurts and yes the guitar costs 200 dollars more than it should period i will never argue that fact with anyone it is true
2 also the taylor uses a varnish finish as does the seagull i believe and yes it also has a soft top but as said before its a guitar
3 soft padded gig bag and not a hard case yup it sucks as well should be the first thing you upgrade

both guitars are laminate sides and back and have solid tops most of your guitars tone comes from the sound board and bridge/saddle. the back and sides dont have as much to do with it hence the laminate on the lower end of guitars for most if not all of the manufactures I actually prefer the laminate back as it is stronger and more durable than a solid guitar also it will be far more forgiving to changes in tempature and humidity than an all solid guitar so i dont see this as a con for either guitar

Bottom line is if you go with the seagull you will have far more money to spend on accesories and such but i would play them both and go with what my eyes ears and hands tell me and anyone who says seagulls suck or taylors suck or there pieces of junk is just an idiot so disregard their opinion and get out and play them and decide for your self either way you will be one happy guitarist and that is all that counts.
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1 price ouch it hurts and yes the guitar costs 200 dollars more than it should period i will never argue that fact with anyone it is true

hence paying for the name
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3 i am personnaly not a big fan of cedar topped guitars but that is solely my personall preference

If you're going to make a "pro/con" list, then it has to represent things that are absolute and not subject to opinion (unless it's meant for your eyes only). Personally, my preference is for only cedar top guitars, and hopefully I'll have one custom built for me in the next five years that will have a cedar top and possibly maple back and sides (up in the air; might choose walnut).

Also, if it is overpriced, you are paying for the name. What else do you think you are paying for? Personally, I've never cared for low-end Taylors. I don't know many who do. There are many better places to get more for your money for the same price you would pay for a low-end Taylor.

I have don't have enough with Taylor guitars, so my pro/con list for the Seagull brand of guitars would be as follows:

Seagull Brand
Pro:
  • Prompt and responsive customer service.
  • Quality hardware (great tuners and pickups).
  • Value pricing.
  • TUSQ nut and saddle (note: not considered preferential, since I've never heard of anyone complaining that their guitar came with a TUSQ nut and saddle rather than a micarta saddle. Guitars in this price range do not feature bone).

Con:
  • Most guitars of theirs do not come with a case.
  • Plastic bridge pins installed.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#12
I would say the seagull is the bettor guitar i played quite a while with the S6 yesterday and was amazed played bettor that the breedloves or the taylor on the higher price range like the 1000 dollar ones wonderful guitar for strumming. It actually made me reconsider Buyind a D-16, and thats saying alot, there were only small things that made the Martin the bettor guitar small little nuances i havent bought the D-16 yet but who knows in two months time i might change my mind and get the seagull and save a couple hundread bucks.

wait scratch that, im not sure it was an S6 but it was one of there 700 dollar guitars
it was like 680 i think
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wait scratch that, im not sure it was an S6 but it was one of there 700 dollar guitars
it was like 680 i think


Could be the Seagull Artist Mosiac
#15
either way if your considering buying a taylor for 600-700 dollars i say dont go for it and use that money to buy a seagull. Taylor, Martin guitars they dont cost 600 bucks its just the name with the cheaper ones i have to say.

Just use the money to buy a seagull in the same price range
#16
Hey, thanks everyone, that WAs help! Is there any other guitar in the price range I should consider?