#1
just wondering if the Epiphone EJ-200CE is a good acoustic electric, if I get a job over the summer I might just buy it.
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#2
^ No. Its an all laminate guitar...if you have to have electronics, $350 isn't really enough money to get something worth your money. My advice would be to take a look at the sticky at the top "best acoustics for <$300" and add an aftermarket pickup to it if you need it to be amplified. They are better than what comes in acoustics like this anyways.

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#3
what does that mean?? about the laminate...
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#4
ok, I just saw a review from gear wire, and the guy said that it was real wood, but that it wasnt like they said it was...
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#5
laminate is when they use cheap wood(like plywood) and glue them together with the grains at different directions. this makes the guitar much stronger, but it hinders vibrations, which makes it sound bad. it may very well be "real" wood, but it wont sound nice.

some laminates, however, are made in a fashion that makes them more suitable for guitars. for example, seagull uses laminates for the back and side. this helps the guitar to project the sound out, and creates a more structurally stable guitar.
#6
well its made of maple back and sides, and the top is sprous or whatever, is that good?
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#7
They're all laminated. So no. For that much money, you should at least have a solid top.

If it does not specifically say the word "solid" then it isn't. "Select" and "Choice" and whatever other garbage things are a fancy way to tell you that they don't want to say its laminated.

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#8
and how do I know what the one I have now is made of??

edit: nevermind I found out its abankole back and sides, spruce top, dont know if that a good thing or not..
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#9
if the epi isnt too good, then what jumbo guitar is? I want to buy a jumbo acoustic electric guitar that isnt too cheap. whenever I have money I am going to try the epi and judge for myself, because I have seen many people saying its a good guitar. might just buy it...
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#10
To be fair are you going to use it plugged in at any stage? If so a laminated back would be better as solid wood backed guitars are more prone to produce feedback.

And all solid is not always best, I've played quite a few Solid tops that have had far better sounds than all solid guitars for about the price the TS is talking. Adam Black guitars are fantasticly built and sound stunning, but they're quite hard to locate.
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#11
I plan to play it thru my vox ac30 because I want to play with some effect(s)...
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#12
another reason I want another acoustic is to keep one of my guitars in standard tuning and all the weird tunings with the other one (open c, and other weird tunings)
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#13
Take a look at the Parkwood 310M, The Blueridge BR-140 or the Epiphone Masterbilt. All are solid wood and some are in your price range or all are if you find them used. Excellent guitars all.
#14
thanks but i am looking for jumbo guitars...I found this one washburn, beautifull guitar, but I dont have the money right now, the guy is selling it for 350
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#15
TAKAMINE EG523SC AE is this a good guitar??
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#16
Yep, if thats the body style your into. Takamines have good electronics and are good quality guitars. It has a solid top so yeah, i'd say its probably decent. Go try it out and play some other guitars too though.
#17
from experience, dont get the epiphone. i played it once at GC and it felt like plastic.
ever since i got a breedlove guitar, i recommend those. they are a bit spendy, but they are well worth it.
#18
well my newer choices are:

used washburn cumberland or something
still the epiphone
used takamine eg523scae

and I am still looking for some other jumbo guitars. not going over 400 us.
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#20
for 350 i got a pf15ece dreadnought cutaway glossy black i got one for christmas you build callouses kwick and has great ction. it is one of the most comfortable guitars i ever played but prollyaround numero 5 . personnally i liked more than any high end martin. it plgs in to ams great has great strings, great tuners and, if you put it through a distortion guitar with the cutaway it could pass as a decent electric guitar. for only 350, you cant go wrong with this guitar

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-...477-i1147778.gc
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#21
I have hear more good things on the epiphone, I think I am just going to get it, I have to try it but I am pretty sure I am just going to fall in love with it....
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#22
would an used epiphone ej200ce with a hard shell case for 300 be a good deal. the guitar sells for 400 and the case for 100 brand new so I would be saving around 200...
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#23
Considering you could get a brand new Yamaha FG700S for $200, a decent case for about $80-100 and add in a pickup if you want them for between $40-$100... I would say no. I think the Epiphone isn't the best way to go even second hand. But if your set on this guitar then yeah it sounds OK. I think the case is worth about $80 thought so check that and maybe see if you can get that extra $20bucks off or something.
#24
Sigh. If you go in with the attitude that you're going to fall in love with it, then you will. Don't fall in love with something that will only screw you for the money. You can do much better than this for the money and just install a pickup.

Please, read this thread over and make an informed decision.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#25
well there arent any other jumbos in my price rance, sooo if I dont see some used jumbo somewhere then thats what I will have to do, I am not planing on paying more than 400 for an acoustic guitar....
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#26
so I found the epiphone for cheaper, around 195, but price is negotiable, so I think I am just going to buy it. it comes with hard shell case...
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#27
i would look for a used takamine eg523sc or alvarez aj60sc. they are both far superior to that epiphone. i've played the epiphone and i've played both of the two guitars i am recommending. the takamine and the alvarez are both head and shoulders above the epiphone. try looking on eBay and craigslist.

$195 is a pretty good deal i suppose for that epiphone with a hardshell case. it's not that you aren't getting an ok deal, and it's not that you probably won't like the guitar. it's that you are getting an ok deal on a supbar guitar. and you will probably like the guitar because you may not know any better. i really think that you should find this guitar and the other two guitars i recommended and play them side-by-side.

as for reviews you find online... they are often pretty worthless. i see a lot of reviews written by people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about.
#28
I use Epiphone acoustics almost exclusively for many, many reasons. The most important reason, of course, is sound. You absolutely cannot go wrong with the current stock of Epiphone products (NOT the Japanese-made Norlin products made in the 80s). Pretty much everything said above about laminates is true, except I dare you to tell the difference in sound between an all solid wood guitar and one made of laminates. Chances are you can't. It is true that a solid top (such as spruce) mellows and improves with age, so that is a valid consideration. I would suggest you select an Epiphone AJ guitar (since you want an advanced jumbo) without electronics and have a pre-amp (like a Fishman Prefix) installed by a reputable tech (this is what I have done on 6 different Epiphone acoustic models that I own). I promise you that you'll be completely happy. For the money, you cannot buy a better made or better sounding guitar than an Epiphone.
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#30
Yeah, right. They're really cleaverly disguised ukuleles that are sold as Advanced Jumbo designs (which by the way Gibson; ergo Epiphone; created!!!).
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#32
I guess my point is that they are true Advanced Jumbo guitars, which is a design that Gibson originated. Point being, they can't be anything other than "true Advanced Jumbo" guitars.
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#33
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Pretty much everything said above about laminates is true, except I dare you to tell the difference in sound between an all solid wood guitar and one made of laminates. Chances are you can't. It is true that a solid top (such as spruce) mellows and improves with age, so that is a valid consideration.


But, I can easily tell the difference between an all laminate guitsr and one even with a solid top. most of the time you can tell if its has a solid back and sides as well, sometimes not but usually yes.