#1
I really want to play more electronic and synthasized sounds with my guitar. I need to be able to play these sounds live, so I figure I would need to look into pedals (I know there are pickups out there for this sort of thing, but I don't want to change my pickups).

My biggest goal here is to play in an electronica band on guitar. I've been trying to start one with some friends for a while, and I think if I could do this, it might be all that we need to actually become a decent sounding band. So, the sound I want is pretty broad. Almost anything electronic or synthesized is what I'm looking for. I think the main sound I am looking for is something like you would hear on a Moog, like a buzzsaw, square, or triangle setting (I'm sorry if I'm not correct in my diction, I'm no expert with synths). Really, any sound I could get from a "regular" synthesizer would be good if I could reproduce a similar sound on guitar.

Aside from this, again, anything electronic sounding. Maybe something to make my rthym sound sequenced and skipping (like you hear in some Minus the Bear songs, specifically in the end of Ice Monster or the beginning of Knights). Or something to convert my signal to chip tunes. Or something to make my guitar sound like nothing but electronic bloops and beeps and digital farts and whatnot (Like Silver Apples of the Moon).

I don't know if there are even any devices out there that would do some of these things. I'm pretty clueless aside from one recommendation I recieved. I was recommended the Digitech Synth Wah by a guy, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere in my town. It is in my price range, but has anyone here had experience with it?

Finally, my price range for each pedal would have to be $100, but I could go over for one great pedal that can do a lot of different things (not a multi effect, I mean. Just a pedal you might be able to get a lot out of). I can probably only spend about $300 total.

Can anyone recommend me anything to get electronic tones out of my guitar?
#2
Well there is a Digitech synth wah but from the youtube videos it seems to be useless except for getting odd sounds. I wasn't too fond of the sound.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--DGTSW

If you just want normal effects some sort of delay pedal and/or talk box combo could get you Daft Punk style filtering.
Delay would probably do alot for you.

Edit: Digitech whammy can also get some cool sounds if you into the Morello stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJAKO7ziCe4
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this IS expensive but its exactly what you need. The MIDI pickup and pedalthingy by roland. it attaches on your guitar and acts as a pickup that you can play through this roland synth pedal thingy and you can make any midi sound you could think of. electronic and ****. Even drums

but its expensive

500 bucks in total
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#6
Look into a synth system for your guitar. The most notable ones are the Roland GR models. It uses its own pick-up though (The GK2a or the GK3.) They're really easy to install. You pretty much just slap 'em on there with sticky tape.
Anyway, expect to shell out a lot of money. These things are NOT cheap. You CAN however find em decently price (~300$) used on ebay. I own the GR33 w/ a GK2 pick-up and I freakin' love it.

Here's the pup:

and the system:



Video: Douche bag demonstrating the system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXSHs6f_5TU


That's about as electronic as you can get on guitar without getting into a keyboard.
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#7
If you don't want a guitar synth, a compressor, phaser or flanger, and a delay should help.
#8
I have been seeing an awful lot of Roland GR systems and Strat Ready ones on craigslist lately. Liek an American Strat with teh ssytem for $500, search in LA if you want.

Whatever Roland system was around in 1996.....is the on e I had. I use to eat acid in m y parents basement and play with that thing for hours.
#9
there is a thing called teh "slicer". Search for it on google and you tube. They make crazy sounds
#10
Ring modulators can get you some weird sounds
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Well there is a Digitech synth wah but from the youtube videos it seems to be useless except for getting odd sounds. I wasn't too fond of the sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJAKO7ziCe4

As an owner of a Synth Wah, I'll debate this point. It's not a "pretty" sounding pedal by any means, but there's massive possability for nutty sounds and usable synth texture things with it.

TS, I could record a clip for you, if you'd like. PM me with what settings you'd like to hear, and I'll put it through my Champ 600 or Flextone III and post the clip on my profile.
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The Roland pick up system seems cool, but I'm not really looking for midi.

As far as delay, I need to get one soon anyway, (I'm thinking either the dd-6 or ther EH Memory Man). As for the Whammy Pedal, I am in love with that thing, but I have yet to get one.

This brings me to the EH HOG and POG. They look neat, but as far as the sound I'm looking for, they're just not quite what I'm looking for either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem to be glorified versions of the Whammy Pedal. The Whammy just seems more practical to me, and if I already had a Whammy Pedal, it seems like it wouldn't be worth it to get a HOG or POG with them both covering such similar ground, if that makes sense.
Aside from that, the HOG and POG aren't quite what I want as far as synth sounds.

With Moog pedals, I would kill a unicorn for one, but there are so many and many of them are so expensive. I don't even know where to start with moog.

What about ring modulators (which it seems Moog makes a lot of)? What kind of things could I do with them? Can anyone post a clip of one?

Someone mentioned compression. I know what the pedals do to your signal, but in my limited experience with one, I just didn't notice much of a sound difference. Is there any real point to them?


So, I'm already planning to get a delay and the Whammy pedal sometime in the future, but I don't think either of these will quite get me the sounds I'm looking for.

Some examples of the kinds of synth sounds I'm looking for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVl43prnV0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIhIc_DfaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7b29HfoD48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8STFhB3g6Xs

I want to be able to make the sounds heard in these videos with a guitar. Maybe this helps, maybe it doesn't. I guess another good discription would be that I want to be able make my tone as different from regular guitar tones as possible.
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This brings me to the EH HOG and POG. They look neat, but as far as the sound I'm looking for, they're just not quite what I'm looking for either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem to be glorified versions of the Whammy Pedal. The Whammy just seems more practical to me, and if I already had a Whammy Pedal, it seems like it wouldn't be worth it to get a HOG or POG with them both covering such similar ground, if that makes sense.
Aside from that, the HOG and POG aren't quite what I want as far as synth sounds.


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Check out the clips on EHX's website, especially for the HOG. It does SOME of the same things as a whammy, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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You say you aren't looking for MIDI, and then you post music made with a keyboard. A keyboard is a MIDI controller.
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Get the Electro-Harmonix:
-- HOG
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TC Electronic G•Major multi-effects, rack unit, $399 USD. Lots of "synthy" presets. I have one and love it.
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#23
the pog isnt as great as the hog but it is cheaper...

and the hog expands upon whammy, the whammy only allows one note at a time, while the hog lets you get some chords
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Get some Moog pedals, they're about as synthy/industrial as you can get

most notably the FreqBox...

that thing is just insane...especially when combined with an expression pedal
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#25
The key to most synth sounds is just taking off the initial attack. I'll put a wah in a fixed position, add some delay, and use a) a volume pedal b)the volume control on my guitar or c) a boss slow gear or similar pedal. Works great. maybe add distortion or a phaser or something for variation.
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POG or HOG!
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#28
play your guitar through a fuzz and a delay, and use a vibrator (yes that kind of vibrator) to attack the strings.
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#30
You can get some pretty wicked electronic sounds with a delay and a les paul pickup combo.

Just set the delay to high feedback and e.level and then put the volume on one pickup to zero and the other to any other level. Switch to the zero level pickup, play something (harmonics work well), then switch to the other pickup. This picks up the sound from the strings and the switching noise from the pickup selector. Just experiment with doing other things like tapping the guitar body and whatnot using the same method. Throw in a flange and you've got some pretty electronic sounding stuff.

Basically, nothing people haven't already suggested.
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#33
I dont know why you dont want midi, but your not going to be happy with anything but the roland synth really if you want the best synth sound from a guitar.
#34
You can get Moog guitar pedals. I'm not sure how well they sound, but I know John Frusciante uses one sometimes. You might wanna look into them.
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You can get Moog guitar pedals. I'm not sure how well they sound, but I know John Frusciante uses one sometimes. You might wanna look into them.


They are ok... the tracking is true analog synth so you have to really mess with em to get the tone you want. If you want a more SYNTHY and easy to use analog sounding pedal go for the EHX MicroSynth. I'm getting one!
#36
i use detune on my digitech whammy pedal because i'm too cheap to buy a pedal
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