#1
I'm looking for a distortion pedal for my newly acquired Les Paul. I was going to go with a Boss pedal since I bought an overdrive pedal for my bass and I thought it was a quality pedal. I wanted to check out other pedals though and I came across the Metal Muff with Boost and I really really like it. I like the tones of guitarists like Randy Rhoads, Tony Iommi, and Dimebag Darrel. Does anybody know anything about them?
#2
I hav one. A bit on the trebly side, and not enough "crunch" in the palm mute. As good a pedal as it is, for what you play, I'd recommend something else. I do't know what to recommend since I don't play a lot of that, but maybe a Boss DS-1
#3
Metal Muff should be fine, i've never used one but from what others have mentioned about it on here it's a good pedal and it seems like it should get the tones you want.

Don't get the DS-1 though, it's a nice pedal, especially on a budget I still use one. However compared to a Metal Muff it's not as good.
Atleast in my experiance it wouldn't get as heavy as you want without sounding bad.
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#4
i have it
its ****ing amazing

i tried it out at guitar center for like 2 minutes and had to buy it
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#5
You might want to look at the hughes and kettner warp. It's really versatile, and has a mid boost.
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#6
ive got it , you can nail those tones if you have the patience 2 fiddle with the nobs 4 a while
#7
Quote by zeppelinpage4
Metal Muff should be fine, i've never used one but from what others have mentioned about it on here it's a good pedal and it seems like it should get the tones you want.

Don't get the DS-1 though, it's a nice pedal, especially on a budget I still use one. However compared to a Metal Muff it's not as good.
Atleast in my experiance it wouldn't get as heavy as you want without sounding bad.


This is why you must be careful what you read in these forums. You should probably try it out, or take advice from someone whos actually used it.
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#8
i have one, im pretty sure i got a lemon but it broke on me in 1 month, i didnt even gig with it and i have a 65 watt ss amp so wtf. when it was working it was amazing, good crunch, it would be good on a tube amp i find that a ss amp cant go as over the top as the pedal can and then you start to get a over the top palm mute that sounds annoying.
#10
Quote by Chex
This is why you must be careful what you read in these forums. You should probably try it out, or take advice from someone whos actually used it.

Yeah cause I know **** about guitar gear and would randomly give bad advice to another user.

All I said was it's gotten a good rep on this site.
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Quote by zeppelinpage4
Yeah cause I know **** about guitar gear and would randomly give bad advice to another user.

All I said was it's gotten a good rep on this site.


You said you hadn't tried it, then said it was better than something else! I just highlighted it as ironic.
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#12
MM are ok for the money, but even tho the top boost is pretty much useless, dont bother with the smaller MMs because you need the EQ. it's trash without a good eq.

it really depends on ur amp. there are better pedals for a little more.

the MM is ok, but not a wonder pedal.
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You said you hadn't tried it, then said it was better than something else! I just highlighted it as ironic.

Yeah well I never tried a Marshall Plexi but I can sure as hell tell you it's better than a 10 watt practice amp. If you think that's ironic then your a fool.

I was only implying that the DS-1 is worse because I own one, even though i've never used a MM, I know enough about them to be able to say it's better.
Then again tone is subjective and everyone has different opinions so if you think the DS-1 is so much better than MM then go ahead and mention it and actually make a useful post.

/Rant

Ok enough of that, don't want to spam the thread as is.

Edit: Honestly i'm not trying to argue and make some point, I can understand what your saying. However you don't always have to try something to be able to say something about it. I even mentioned that I never used it so the TS wouldn't get the wrong idea form my post.
Now lets assume we're both right and end this here so the TS can get some real help.
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#14
Quote by MegaJeff
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this metal box is hard as diamond


Not the best advice regarding the Metal Muff. I used to work at a music store and the pedal that came back the most was the Metal Muff. Even with the EHX power supply, the Metal Muff has issues. Our floor model died within a week. I had one guy who thought the Metal Muff was the greatest pedal in the world go through three of them before taking my advice that he should get a new amp. I have no idea what the problem is with the Metal Muff, but I've never seen that many of the same pedal die within a matter of weeks.


THCtheGRATE - What amp are you using? The Metal Muff really isn't as great of a pedal that everyone on here makes it out to be. The Top Boost is a joke.
#15
Quote by zeppelinpage4
Yeah well I never tried a Marshall Plexi but I can sure as hell tell you it's better than a 10 watt practice amp. If you think that's ironic then your a fool.

I was only implying that the DS-1 is worse because I own one, even though i've never used a MM, I know enough about them to be able to say it's better.
Then again tone is subjective and everyone has different opinions so if you think the DS-1 is so much better than MM then go ahead and mention it and actually make a useful post.

/Rant

Ok enough of that, don't want to spam the thread as is.

Edit: Honestly i'm not trying to argue and make some point, I can understand what your saying. However you don't always have to try something to be able to say something about it. I even mentioned that I never used it so the TS wouldn't get the wrong idea form my post.
Now lets assume we're both right and end this here so the TS can get some real help.


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#16


The Metal Muff should do you fine. EHX makes quality pedals. I like the Big Muff more, but for metal tones, the Metal Muff's the way to go.
#17
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Quit mixing my words around you know what I meant.

Oh well you win whatever i'm out.
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Quit mixing my words around you know what I meant.

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#20
Don't like the metal muff
Too trebly, not enough gain, its pretty thin. I bought mine on ebay... then sold it on ebay again for a $10 loss. Not too bad!

It just wasn't metal enough...

And its a MUFF pedal, its more fuzzy than it is distortion
#21
Quote by zeppelinpage4
Don't get the DS-1 though, it's a nice pedal, especially on a budget I still use one. However compared to a Metal Muff it's not as good.
Atleast in my experiance it wouldn't get as heavy as you want without sounding bad.

+1, the DS-1 isn't a good idea for metal. It'll be fairly decent for things like modern rock, grunge, punk etc. but not metal.
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#22
Quote by jj1565
MM are ok for the money, but even tho the top boost is pretty much useless, dont bother with the smaller MMs because you need the EQ. it's trash without a good eq.

it really depends on ur amp. there are better pedals for a little more.

the MM is ok, but not a wonder pedal.



And what would those pedals be?
#23
i dont see your amp. what do you play through?
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#24
I love mine, and find the top boost to very usable (in a band setting, which is what it's there for), this of course depends a lot on your guitar and how your amp is voiced and EQed.
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i dont see your amp. what do you play through?


I play through a Line 6 Spider III. How does the type of amp effect the sound?
#26
if you have a spider 3 don't bother, it doesn't take pedals well at all. Get a better amp, then worry about pedals.

And how the amp is voiced and Eqed effects how the pedals will sound the same way it effects how your guitar will sound.
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#27
it has everything to do with it.

i never played the newest spiders, but in general im not a fan.

putting that aside. most modeling amps dont handle pedals well. my cousin's cube 30 is a pretty good intermediate amp, trying to add any pedals in front of it has proved pretty useless. everything gets muddy.

let me give you an example, different amps, same pedal.
ive got an old marshall (m)g50. the metal muff thru the the mg, even on the clean setting, sounds like crap.
the MM through my 5W tube amp sounds ok, a little dark, a little muddy. through my Blues junior was usable, but very high end, nu-metal.
the same pedal thru my 30W tube amp sounds pretty good. i can work with the EQ and dial in some nice tones. still not a fan of the top boost, kid


since you asked for an alternative, i think i would have been better off with a jekyl and hyde. i didnt go for it because i already had an OD, but the mix of od and distortion really sings compared to my MM.

not sure what you should do tho. if at all possible, go to a store and try these pedals thru a spider.
if you are not getting the tones you want out of this amp, you might want to consider that this might not have been the best amp for you.

anyway good luck

edit: i guess it took me a while to post. so ^^
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