#1
A friend just loan me a 12 string gianini made on brazil for a couple of month's

I found it yesterday on his house on an old closet, the strings were still tight so I suppose that the wood of the Guitar may been stressed up

And now i confirmed that, the setup of it, ("calibracion" in spanish) is completely messed, I can't tune it, the intonation is bad, on the the eE aA and dD

It seems it has a truss rod but i'm not quite sure how to fix this, i searched on the forum but didn't find any interesting...

Sorry for my lack of english, but i do not know how to speak with technical slang of guitars
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#2
I'm sure it needs new strings. Have you ever changed strings on a 12 string before?
The wood could be dry too. Humidify it in a room to 50%. One week of humidity should do it.
Do NOT touch the truss rod. The guitar should have new strings and get some moisture back into it before trying to adjust anything beyond tuning it up.
#3
Thanks man, obviously tomorrow i was going to buy new strings, but it seems that is more than that, never changed strings on a 12 string, but i will look up when i got them
I can't humidify my room, but the guitar is pretty good so i really need to recover it to enyoy it this two months
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#5
When you buy new strings, have the person at the store help you and show you how to properly put them on the guitar. Twelve strings are a lot different than 6 strings.
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#6
First, I don't know if changing the strings would do anything better, and how it can be different to do it? I'm seeing the guitar and it's look like the same way (I already bought the strings, and i was going to put them when i checked the thread lol)
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#7
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First, I don't know if changing the strings would do anything better, and how it can be different to do it? I'm seeing the guitar and it's look like the same way (I already bought the strings, and i was going to put them when i checked the thread lol)

Changing strings can actually eliminate buzzing. I'll let my good friend Conway Twitty explain:

"See, old strings have a tendency to go 'bad.' They get old and rusty and can make it impossible to properly tune the guitar. You'd be amazing what a string change can do. Sometimes it can fix buzzing, pull the truss rod into its correct position, and even cure cancer! That last part wasn't true, but you get my point. Bottom line, if you still have this problem, change out the saddle for a fully compensated one. Don't snip the strings at the headstock so you don't have to change them out if you need to replace the saddle. No sense in buying another set of strings. Goodbye Darlin'; I gotta go now."
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#8
Starting to change 12 strings, this gonna be boring, let's hope it works for the intonation :/
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#9
I meant the tuning part sorry. Its a little different from tuning a 6 string.
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#10
It's no different than tuning a 6'er. The notes are still EADGBe, it's just that you have twice as many to tune.
And here they are, starting at the low E pair of strings. But first, a little rule of thumb for tuning a 12 string. They are all paired ok. For the low E, A, D and G strings, the fatter of each pair is tuned to standard tuning. The thinner of each pair of these is then tuned ONE OCTAVE ABOVE the fatter one. Then the pairs of B and high E strings are each tuned to standard, no octave difference.
Ok. Written out, lower case letters representing the octave (higher pitched of the pair), and upper case representing the fatter of each pair, here they are.
eEaAdDgG and then BBEE
Remember, when stringing it up, the thinner of each pair should be up, or toward the ceiling, and the fatter below it. Just look at the nut slots if you get confused. Thin, thick, thin, thick all the way down to the high E's.
#11
Thanks man, but I already knew that, I'm just a "noobie" about old guitar repairments :P

And as you said, the intonation got better with the new strings, and it can almost be tunned up perfectly, so if it stays like this, I'm not going to need to fix this beauty

Thank's for the help, and give some songs to play on this guitar

(I have to addmit that to picking here is kinda different and weird to play the pair of strings good at the same time with the right hand)
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#12
Try "Leatherbritches" on it. It's really an old folk sort of tune, something to stomp your foot to in a barn dance. But, it's pretty difficult at the same time. It's sort of a rite of passage song for 12 stringers, kind of like Stairway to Heaven is for 6'ers.
St. Anne's Reel is another sweet sounding song, especially when it's done on a 12.
You know, I'm a bit jealous of you right now. I've wanted a 12 string for years, but every time I think I have enough to get one, something else comes up, plus the fact that I'm a lefty. Good 12's are just hard to find, and too expensive usually. But someday...lol
#13
my fingers are killing me, I have played guitar for more than 7 years, but this time is different, I don't know if the relation between action/tension is the one that is killing me, but it hurting me the joints of each finger a lot :P

I don't remember this pain on any of my years of practise

Still it sound's very cool to play The musical box on it :P
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#14
^^^ Hahaha...whole different ball game with those 6 extra strings isn't it? Keep plucking at it, your fingers won't be like that in about 3-4 days.
#15
I know, good luck with your 12 string some day

Also, I'm noticing that the intonation is getting worst :S maybe i will have to leave it to a luthier

(I will fail courses this year at university because of this xD)
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#16
I really like "Mosquito Song" by Queens of The Stone Age on a 12-string.
Of course, it's tuned down 2 steps, but it sounds okay in standard.
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#18
I don't know who is him, but don't get me wrong for my signature; that is a signature i did back in 2002 and I don't want to change my obscure past (the groups on that signature)

Mainly I'm going to learn some genesis songs in the beggining
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