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I was wondering whats the point of a halfstack? Why not just get a combo? For example the epi valve junior combo, and the halfstack. Why get the halfstack. Isnt it just a pain to have a really big amp if theyre the same wattage? Whats the point?
#2
i will answer your question with 2 questions.

how long have you been playing guitar for?

are you retarded?
#3
to say u have a halfstack thats all i can think of
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#4
the valve junior halfstack is just a head and a 1x12 cab. i'd take that over the combo which has a troublesome 8inch speaker in it.

true, buying a halfstack based soley on the looks isn't a good reason to buy one at all. if anything, it should be the last reason.

some people prefer the flexibility of a head and a cab. you can mix and match the head with different speakers and configurations. and it's easier to carry a 40lb head and 50lb cab separately than an 80lb combo with a handle on top ha.
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more speaker options, it projects better and usually has tighter bass, it looks good live (yes the really does matter), the head and cab configuration offers better insulation for the tubes against rattling. there are more but i think you get the point.
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#6
expandability and flexibility.

you can always get a second 4X12 if you need it. You can swap out the head if it breaks and the cab still works, and vice versa. Plus, there's always the old wisdom that the less you cram in one box, the better it all sounds.
#7
If you have several places you go to practice and ever place has a cabinet at said location you only need to bring the head. Also with a half stack configuration you could have a bunch of heads and one cabinet loaded with your speakers. It would be cheaper in the long run cause heads generally are cheaper but you'd be stuck with the same speakers.
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#8
well....

the first most obvious point is that it is easier to test out different speaker and head combinations. you can also hook up more than one cab to get a fuller sound

why get a combo when you can get a halfstack?
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more speaker options, it projects better and usually has tighter bass, it looks good live (yes the really does matter), the head and cab configuration offers better insulation for the tubes against rattling. there are more but i think you get the point.



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#10
Plus, there's always the old wisdom that the less you cram in one box, the better it all sounds.


thats the same with effects pedals. if you get a multi-effects pedal, the distortion won't sound as good as if you bought a pedal that was made just for distortion.
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#11
I have a head and a 2x12 cab, so I guess I have a quarter-stack. I would honestly perfer a combo, but they didn't make the TT combo when I bought the head and I wanted the TT, so now I guess I'm stuck with a stack. Still sounds awesome though
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thats the same with effects pedals. if you get a multi-effects pedal, the distortion won't sound as good as if you bought a pedal that was made just for distortion.


That's a broad generalization and really has nothing to do with the amount "crammed" into the pedal.
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#14
I prefer the flexibility of a head and cab. You can easily swap cabs with different speakers with no fuss. I mean its not too difficult to wire up new speakers but more of a hassle than simply unplugging a speaker cable, then plugging it in to another input.
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thats the same with effects pedals. if you get a multi-effects pedal, the distortion won't sound as good as if you bought a pedal that was made just for distortion.

uh actually thats because multi effects are DIGITAL and not ANALOG.


I think this comes down to more of
If the exact same amp halfstack and combo were the same price, which would you get.
Unless size is a problem, i garuntee 99% of people would get the halfstack.
I agree, halfstacks look cooler. But not cool enough to get way less for my money.
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#16
wow i`m shocked LOL, i figured 90% of UG would agree with this guy, tube combos are expenive as hell, tube 1/2 stacks are expenive as hell.... so why not just go with the bigger one LOL

stacks are better to me for reasons allready listed and yes they look DAMN wicked.
#18
well i have a half stack because i gig at place that don't even a have adecent PA system to mic my smaller 50 hybrid amp. and the added bonuses of a better tone and fleximlity.
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wow i`m shocked LOL, i figured 90% of UG would agree with this guy, tube combos are expenive as hell, tube 1/2 stacks are expenive as hell.... so why not just go with the bigger one LOL

stacks are better to me for reasons allready listed and yes they look DAMN wicked.

because 1/2 stacks are more expensive than combos, hence getting less for their money.
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wow i`m shocked LOL, i figured 90% of UG would agree with this guy, tube combos are expenive as hell, tube 1/2 stacks are expenive as hell.... so why not just go with the bigger one LOL

stacks are better to me for reasons allready listed and yes they look DAMN wicked.

because 1/2 stacks are more expensive than combos, hence getting less for their money.
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#22
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I was wondering whats the point of a halfstack? Why not just get a combo? For example the epi valve junior combo, and the halfstack. Why get the halfstack. Isnt it just a pain to have a really big amp if theyre the same wattage? Whats the point?
To be loud and proud :P

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#23
*shrugs* ive only ever played through one halfstack, and it was a peavy something or other (solid state) and it was only ok.
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#24
Flexibility.

You can buy a head or speaker cabinet and mix them with other heads/cabinets.

Other reasons have already been mentioned.
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#25
flexibility, alot better bass response and lighter individualy.
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#26
I have one tube head, one 4x12 cab and one 2x12 cab, each in different locations. I just move the head around. I plan to eventually buy two more tube heads (Soldano, Framus Cobra). I'll then be able to mix and match heads, cabs, speakers. Lots of options.
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#27
My biggest reasons for getting a separate head and cab were: the mobility, the fact that there was somewhere in the neighborhood of only thirty combo versions of my amp ever built and finding one for sale is virtually impossible, and I'm yet to find a combo that offers a sealed back with front loaded speakers and tube ports on the front. I really don't see the need for a 412 when there are so many excellent 212 options available, but everyone has their reasons.
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#28
i tried the ac30 as the classic combo and the head with a different cab (their bitching alnico blue cab)

i thought the stack sounded just eons better for what i played, however i do realize that the cab was just as expensive as the combo
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i tried the ac30 as the classic combo and the head with a different cab (their bitching alnico blue cab)

i thought the stack sounded just eons better for what i played, however i do realize that the cab was just as expensive as the combo

THe stack sounded better because of the Alnico Blue cab. If the combo was loaded with Alnico Blues it would sound just as good or even better.
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^its what i figured
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#31
Well many reasons:
1. flexibility to interchange cab/speakers more easily
2. For some reason i find carrying a 30lb head and 80+lb 4x12 easier separately than a single 90lb combo
3. Sound. Imo 1/2 stacks sound much better than their combo brothers. You get that bigass incredible badass sound from a 100W head and a 4x12

Now stacks arnt nessicary and definitely not right for everyone but don't write them off. Soon ill be the proud owner of a 5150II or a carvin v3 halfstack .
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#32
My big reason is using different heads. You don't have to buy a new combo all together to get more options. You're pushin more air with a half stack and the least important reason is that they look friggen cool.
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#33
My only reason is that combos can be tube killers, they will shake and rattle your tubes at high volumes.
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#34
Sometimes certain amps only come in head form?
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#35
Quote by dzaerpoor
I was wondering whats the point of a halfstack? Why not just get a combo? For example the epi valve junior combo, and the halfstack. Why get the halfstack. Isnt it just a pain to have a really big amp if theyre the same wattage? Whats the point?



Get a 60 watt tube combo. It's all you'll ever need, honestly.
#36
I assume most people would get a halfstack instead of a combo if they were the same price, but this is never the case. For instance, on some site called dolphin music (the only site i could find that sells orange so i can make my comparison), has both the rockerverb 50 combo and in head and cab form.

The combo is 1135 pounds, and the head is 1099, and a 2x12 cab with the same speakers is 388 pounds.

So for an extra 36 pounds (72 dollars) you basically get a cab.

Some people find the advantages stated worth that extra almost 800 dollars.
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#37
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Get a 60 watt tube combo. It's all you'll ever need, honestly.



I've had to run my 120 watt tube head almost full open several times at gigs, I really wish people would stop spewing crap like this. If you ever play an outdoor gig with a POS PA system you will very quickly realize why theres a need for 100 watt stacks.
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I've had to run my 120 watt tube head almost full open several times at gigs, I really wish people would stop spewing crap like this. If you ever play an outdoor gig with a POS PA system you will very quickly realize why theres a need for 100 watt stacks.


Wattage doesn't measure volume. The volume difference between 60 and 120 watts is negligible.
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Wattage doesn't measure volume. The volume difference between 60 and 120 watts is negligible.


Yeah but if you have to run your amp loud most people would need the extra headroom, and the extra speakers.
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More volume (slightly), pushing more air, and more bottom end.

Slightly off topic:

I would have rather bought a 2x12 combo instead of the half stack and head if the store would have had one, but the only amp that sounded good was the used stack and head. Oh, and it was cheaper than a combo cause it was used lol.
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