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#1
Okay, Fairlyy similar sports on level of physical involvement but.

What do Americans think of Rugby?

I mean, generally Americans think their Football is one of the toughest sports etc etc.

buut, compared to rugby, it's not, is it? because in AF they have protection, rugby they dont.

also i realise differnet rules, goals etc etc, but,

im curious :/

I also know NOTHING of either sport so, aha, im not trying to start a flame warr or anytingg, but im just curious! Oh, nor am i generalising against Americans, but, it's obviously more popular there,than here.
#2
I think they are both stupid and brutish sports to play, and people play them to try to make themselves feel superior, strong and alpha male-ish. Seriously, just hitting eachother over and over?
#4
Well I'm American and I will be the first to say that rugby is much more of a tough sport than our football. However, I will also add the statement that rugby is a ruffian's sport played by gentlemen and soccer/real football is a gentleman's sport played by ruffians.
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Well evertime i see rugby it looks like their not going full speed when they hit each other( idont blame em though) iv played football for 8 years and without all the protection id probably be braindead right now.
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It seems to me that the american's sport, while allowing more physical protection, allows harder hits as well. Less potential for injury, maybe, I don't know for sure as I've never really seen a rugby game up close...but it seems that you'll get knocked around pretty bad in both.
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#12
rugby is much better than football
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Well.... if you don't like American Football, then you can get out!
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if AF players did wear all of those pads there would be multiple fatalities. I like both sports actually.
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i don;t know anything about it lolll, i was just curious how you guys think of it to Rugby XD
#16
The other thing about rugby is that there aren't the stoppages. You need to have stamina as well as strength.

I can only reiterate what CraigKing said, don't ever say rugby players can't take/make the same hits as American Football.

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still though, the average AF player is a lot bigger than the average rugby player.
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A show did a study on the hardest hits in pro sports, comparing a hockey in-the-boards hit to a rugby hospital pass to an NFL blindside to a MMA body slam. The hit generated by the NFL blindside was almost 50% higher than the impact of the rugby hospital pass, but then again, the NFL hit is more widely distributed across the body than the rugby hit. These all paled in comparison, however, to the MMA body slam, which had a higher head injury factor than a 35 mph car crash. There's also a lot of truth to the opinion expressed earlier that because they're padded more, they'll hit harder because the person administering the hit is less likely to be injured. It's like boxing - boxers with 12 oz. gloves will hit harder than a person using bare knuckles because they're less likely to suffer a broken hand administering stronger hits, but the padding diffuses the hit more than the smaller bare hand.
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still though, the average AF player is a lot bigger than the average rugby player.

The average AF player operates in 10 second bursts. Jonah Lomu was 1.96m/125kgs.

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A show did a study on the hardest hits in pro sports, comparing a hockey in-the-boards hit to a rugby hospital pass to an NFL blindside to a MMA body slam. The hit generated by the NFL blindside was almost 50% higher than the impact of the rugby hospital pass, but then again, the NFL hit is more widely distributed across the body than the rugby hit. These all paled in comparison, however, to the MMA body slam, which had a higher head injury factor than a 35 mph car crash. There's also a lot of truth to the opinion expressed earlier that because they're padded more, they'll hit harder because the person administering the hit is less likely to be injured. It's like boxing - boxers with 12 oz. gloves will hit harder than a person using bare knuckles because they're less likely to suffer a broken hand administering stronger hits, but the padding diffuses the hit more than the smaller bare hand.


Even comparing a hospital pass to a NFL blindside hit is a bit unfair. Blindsides in rugby are pretty rare. Two key differences in rugby are that:
a.) Players must use their arms in a tackle;
b.) The tackled player often eases off just before impact to enable them to turn their bodies to recycle the ball.
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The other thing about rugby is that there aren't the stoppages. You need to have stamina as well as strength.

I can only reiterate what CraigKing said, don't ever say rugby players can't take/make the same hits as American Football.


excellent point, it can get just as rough. but why do we care which is rougher, we play because its fun. some enjoy AF others rugby, who cares.
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i don;t know anything about it lolll, i was just curious how you guys think of it to Rugby XD

oh... well I just wanted to use that quote. But yeah, both sports are brutal. But I like American Football more.
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The average AF player operates in 10 second bursts. Jonah Lomu was 1.96m/125kgs.



Yeah but the point is a 300 lb person ramming you is going to hurt a lot worse than a 200 lb person ramming you, which is why AF players wear pads.
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#24
AMerican rugby seems alot more complicate cause they should all those random things like 24 hut hut. Im just sitting there thinking wtf was that all about. And what rugby teams were compared, because New zealand, Australian and South Africa rugby is alot rougher and professional than other countries.
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AMerican rugby seems alot more complicate cause they should all those random things like 24 hut hut. Im just sitting there thinking wtf was that all about. And what rugby teams were compared, because New zealand, Australian and South Africa rugby is alot rougher and professional than other countries.



what they are doing is calling an audible, which changes the play right before the action starts, this is done to throw the defense off.
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i live in the united states(arizona) and i play rugby form my school and i love it.
its alot tougher then football but nobody believes me here.
theres only 6 teams including us in the whole state.
im one of the smallest guys at my school and i play but the big football guys are to afraid.
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Rugby is stupid. I hate it with a passion. American Football is better, and IMO, rougher.
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Are there any illegal tackles in American football?
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Yeah but the point is a 300 lb person ramming you is going to hurt a lot worse than a 200 lb person ramming you, which is why AF players wear pads.

I didn't say anything about pads, I don't have a problem with it. My point was AF players can be bigger because the need barely any stamina. I actually really enjoy AF and am a big follower of it. I mentioned Jonah Lomu, the NFL actually wanted to sign him, I guess he would have played RB. He was 275lb/6'5 and could cover 100m in about 10.8 seconds.
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I think they are both stupid and brutish sports to play, and people play them to try to make themselves feel superior, strong and alpha male-ish. Seriously, just hitting eachother over and over?



You know so little i almost pity you...this is an unfair comparison between two good sports in thier own rights...although i prefer rugby


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Curtis15, people dont hit each other in rugby. Your not allowed to. They tackle, but only to stop the person who has the ball from getting through their defence
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Rugby is a masculine, brutish, dirty sport and so far much better than American Football, which insists on stopping every three minutes.
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The problem with comparisons between rugby and american football is that they are two completely different games. When you play american football, a tackle is basically taking the guy down, in rugby you've got to do it in a specific way, then you have to hold the player when he's on the ground and then your teammates have to try and win the ball in the ruck. American football is also far more structured, with pauses every few seconds and plays. In rugby you do have tactics but there's more of a flow and the game is always changing when in american football it's not as much.

I enjoy watching both games but rugby is just far far more entertaining as a sport, I also believe that it is far more tactical.
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#39
^ as much as I enjoy rugby, I believe that America football is one of the most tactical sports in the world. Watching a good defense vs. a good offense is one of the most exciting parts of the game.

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Are there any illegal tackles in American football?


absolutely. You cannot lead with your head (spearing) or hit someone helmet to helmet. You also cannot grab by the facemask or by the back of the neck.
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^ as much as I enjoy rugby, I believe that America football is one of the most tactical sports in the world. Watching a good defense vs. a good offense is one of the most exciting parts of the game.


absolutely. You cannot lead with your head (spearing) or hit someone helmet to helmet.

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