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#1
Personally, I thinnk that the game game "Guitar Hero" is a stupid waste of time, but I was just curious to know what other guitarist thought of it
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#7
I actually think its a good time waster. I don't know whats not to like about it
#8
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it has nothing to do with real guitar.
but it is fun as hell

That. Stop the hate, it only shows people that you are arrogant bastards with no sense of fun.
#10
Hmm... Despite the fact I'll be killed for this, I quite like it.

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#11
People who play guitar but are bad at guitar hero hate the game. People who play guitar and like video games, and are decent at guitar hero like it. Personally, I like it. I also find it a fun warm-up if I plan on playing actual guitar after guitar hero.
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#12
It's a fun game, but it gives non-guitarists the idea that real guitar is easy, which we all know is total bull****.
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#13
It's a party-killer, that's for sure. I absolutely hate when people bring those kind of games to parties and we end up sitting around watching two people duke it out on easy mode.
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#14
It's great fun IMO, I don't see why people would hate it because it's an arcadey 'simulator'. It's as if taxi drivers get annoyed about Crazy Taxi or plane pilots slating Flight Simulator (or something more arcade-ier than flight simulator, as that's actually meant to be like the real thing).

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I also find it a fun warm-up if I plan on playing actual guitar after guitar hero.
Same :]

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It's a party-killer, that's for sure. I absolutely hate when people bring those kind of games to parties and we end up sitting around watching two people duke it out on easy mode.
I've known people to have actual parties mostly revolving around Rock Band, and they had an absolute blast. It's all opinion really.
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#15
i do actually like it. although it doesnt really develop anything guitar related,its still fun. All guitar hero haters can stfu, and so can all the stupid people who think becuase they can play a song on expert, they can automatically play that on real guitar.These kinds of people are the only con tothe game in my opinion.
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#16
*facepalm*

Hardly a day goes by without a GH topic being created. I'm not normally one to go all "search bar" on someone's ass but for the love of all that is cute and fuzzy please, stop with the Guitar Hero topics. There was a huge one on the subject just a few days ago.
#17
it think its a fun game, rock band is better, but it gets people introduced into new songs, and it gets them interested in instruments.

and to everyone who says "OMGZ itZ JUsT a gAmE!!11! GO OuT And Get A REaL gUitar"
why dont you go out and jump on turtles for stealing your girlfriend? or drive a race car? or explore ruins? its just a game, and a fun one at that.
#18
I don't like it.

It trips my eyes out becaus eI don;t know what to focus on. And it is nothing like playing the song on a real guitar...
#19
I tried guitar hero for the first time on Saturday. It seemed that it could be quite fun for a while. It wasn't overly difficult, and seemed enjoyable for a few people to play at a time.

However, it is totally different from guitar. I see no reason why the two should be compared to each other.
#20
I'm ****e at it but a few mates, more than a few beers and guitar hero is a great night in. Tis fun, thats all there is too it. If you don't like it don't play it.
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I hate it.



Same but if people enjoy than thats good for them ya know not trying to sound harsh.


Just get annoyed when i see one of those annoying little ones colpmleting Through The Fire And Flames and get voted best Guitar Heroist.

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#22
Seriously TS you've been here way too long to not use the search bar.
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#23
Terrible game, in general. It's about as stupid as Dance Dance Revolution or the Wii.

I don't understand what was wrong with the controller. Using my thumbs to control the game seemed like a pretty good idea to me, I don't know why people want to change that. It worked since the NES (not Atari, since you only had one button and a joystick; practically no thumbs involved), so why change it now?

As a guitarist, I think it's terribly boring. If I want to play guitar, I'll play guitar. I don't feel like listening to ****ty music and clicking buttons. The game play is boring, it's not innovative at all, and there's no point to the game (want a good beat game? Try Guitaroo Man).
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#24
okay, i can see why it's popular and fun (i've never played it myself) but I cannot understand how people can play it sooo much to become insanely good at it. Like, at that point, they should seriously think about taking up guitar even though the two are totally different
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Terrible game, in general. It's about as stupid as Dance Dance Revolution or the Wii.

I don't understand what was wrong with the controller. Using my thumbs to control the game seemed like a pretty good idea to me, I don't know why people want to change that. It worked since the NES (not Atari, since you only had one button and a joystick; practically no thumbs involved), so why change it now?

As a guitarist, I think it's terribly boring. If I want to play guitar, I'll play guitar. I don't feel like listening to ****ty music and clicking buttons. The game play is boring, it's not innovative at all, and there's no point to the game (want a good beat game? Try Guitaroo Man).


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#26
Guitar Hero is a fun way to kill an afternoon. . . it can get quite addictive, lol, but real guitar is a lot better.
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Terrible game, in general. It's about as stupid as Dance Dance Revolution or the Wii.

I don't understand what was wrong with the controller. Using my thumbs to control the game seemed like a pretty good idea to me, I don't know why people want to change that. It worked since the NES (not Atari, since you only had one button and a joystick; practically no thumbs involved), so why change it now?

As a guitarist, I think it's terribly boring. If I want to play guitar, I'll play guitar. I don't feel like listening to ****ty music and clicking buttons. The game play is boring, it's not innovative at all, and there's no point to the game (want a good beat game? Try Guitaroo Man).


Yes I completely agree, using your thumbs FTW, but seriously, without the guitar attachment it would not be the same, it would be Amplitude. It's also great escapism, maybe for someone who doesn't actually play. Yes, I know, the thread is specifically asking what do actual guitarists think, but still. It was innovative at the time. Regardless of what you think, it's still a great game, look at the reviews and sales. :\

Edit: As for my thoughts, I love the game, online is great and it's fun to play with friends. As for your opinions on the track list, I dunno. I thought it was a good mix of things.
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Yes I completely agree, using your thumbs FTW, but seriously, without the guitar attachment it would not be the same, it would be Amplitude. It's also great escapism, maybe for someone who doesn't actually play. Yes, I know, the thread is specifically asking what do actual guitarists think, but still. It was innovative at the time. Regardless of what you think, it's still a great game, look at the rviews and sales. :\

I've already had this same discussion about the Wii: it's not innovative. Innovation necessitates that the new is, in some way, better than the old. It's not innovative, it's different. Just because it's different doesn't mean it should be celebrated like the second coming of Mario. My point is that the guitar attachment was a dumb idea and the game shouldn't have been made.

Escapism? Alright, escapism would be a great RPG, an engaging FPS, even an MMORPG (which I also detest, but I see the point in it). Instead of actually learning an instrument or learning something to better themselves, these kids are wasting their free time on something that has no value in their daily life. That would be fine if they just realized it. I'm not going to pretend that Earthbound or DOOM is any less of a waste of time, but they don't pretend to be anything else. Guitar Hero is cheating children into the belief that stagnation is useful.

Edit: sorry if this came off as snarky. No offense intended.

Edit2: Also, sales don't accurately reflect the value of a game. There are hundreds of games that saw terrible sales and being absolute gems of gaming. Likewise, there are many games that are horrible that somehow ended up being shoved down our throats. I remember buying the Fight Club game and nearly killing myself for buying into the hype. It's easily the worst fighting game ever made, but that doesn't stop Gamestop from trying to suck $30 out of you for it to this day. Reviews mean nothing as well. They are bought and sold just like games; you can't trust them for a second.
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#32
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I've already had this same discussion about the Wii: it's not innovative. Innovation necessitates that the new is, in some way, better than the old. It's not innovative, it's different. Just because it's different doesn't mean it should be celebrated like the second coming of Mario. My point is that the guitar attachment was a dumb idea and the game shouldn't have been made.

Escapism? Alright, escapism would be a great RPG, an engaging FPS, even an MMORPG (which I also detest, but I see the point in it). Instead of actually learning an instrument or learning something to better themselves, these kids are wasting their free time on something that has no value in their daily life. That would be fine if they just realized it. I'm not going to pretend that Earthbound or DOOM is any less of a waste of time, but they don't pretend to be anything else. Guitar Hero is cheating children into the belief that stagnation is useful.

Edit: sorry if this came off as snarky. No offense intended.


Wii not innovative? I do see your point, but it seems like your comments have contradicted themselves. You state that innovation is purely change. I.E. Something new, something better than the previous version. Is that not what you said? Well how is the Wii not better, not to mention different from it's predecessors. For example the Gamecube, N64, PS2, or Playstation? The Guitar controller is the same. Now maybe there's some obscure game that has already the guitar controller but it seemed like Harmonix/RedOctane had the idea first, which is NEW.

Escapism is different through other peoples eyes. Like I said before, for someone who doesn't play an instrument, this would give them the feeling that they're actually playing the song. I dunno, it just seems people hate it for the same damn reason. They always say things like "Play it on real guitar and I'll be impressed" or "Pick up a real instrument". Maybe they don't want to devote that much time to play an actual instrument. Yes as silly as that sounds, Guitar Hero has made my friend almost $5000. He just won a local tourney for $2000 and won, so I dunno.
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#33
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Wii not innovative? I do see your point, but it seems like your comments have contradicted themselves. You state that innovation is purely change. I.E. Something new, something better than the previous version. Is that not what you said? Well how is the Wii not better, not to mention different from it's predecessors. For example the Gamecube, N64, PS2, or Playstation? The Guitar controller is the same. Now maybe there's some obscure game that has already the guitar controller but it seemed like Harmonix/RedOctane had the idea first, which is NEW.

Escapism is different through other peoples eyes. Like I said before, for someone who doesn't play an instrument, this would give them the feeling that they're actually playing the song. I dunno, it just seems people hate it for the same damn reason. They always say things like "Play it on real guitar and I'll be impressed" or "Pick up a real instrument". Maybe they don't want to devote that much time to play an actual instrument. Yes as silly as that sounds, Guitar Hero has made my friend almost $5000. He just won a local tourney for $2000 and won, so I dunno.

The Wii is not better. Its games are boring, pointless, and offer no moral or clever idea to take away. Systems are only as good as their games, and the Wii is sorely lacking. The Wiimote is just stupid. It's simply change for the sake of change, and offers nothing but trite novelty for the hungry consumer. I don't go into the controller argument, since we already covered that.

If they won't devote time to an actual instrument, isn't there something to be said in that? Disregarding the fact that it's just a terrible game, it offers nothing that you can take away from the game. It's quick, meaningless entertainment (like almost all games today). I have yet to see any personal improvement that stems from Guitar Hero.

Congratulations for your friend. My friend plays Halo professionally (yet another game that is absolutely meaningless). Unfortunately, he should realize that Guitar Hero is just the fad of today. If he spent the effort into playing guitar, he could at least have some sort of renewable skill to fall back on. Even a studio musician position (playing rhythm or something) is more valuable than $5000 from a quick fad.

I'm sorry, but twenty years from now, there are going to be no "Guitar Hero XI" tournaments. At least with Halo, the basic skills haven't changed since early FPS games.

Edit: to clarify my point in the second paragraph, I'll never hear anyone say "My friend stopped doing smack once he learned the beauty and self-improving attitude of Guitar Hero."
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#34
^ Regardless of your arguments you have to take into account one thing. They are fucking video games. No one is looking for skills to rely on later in life. It's about fun, and if you want to spend all your time on it, it's fine. Some people love to play guitar, others Guitar Hero. As for the Wii being boring and pointless, how longs it been out? Do you not remember how long it took for the 360 to get a decent game? It will get better down the line. At any rate, it was a console built for children, hence the Wiimote and Nunchaku controller. Whatever, obviously you're not going to think any different about it.
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#35
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it has nothing to do with real guitar.
but it is fun as hell

Agreed
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The Wii is not better. Its games are boring, pointless, and offer no moral or clever idea to take away. Systems are only as good as their games, and the Wii is sorely lacking. The Wiimote is just stupid. It's simply change for the sake of change, and offers nothing but trite novelty for the hungry consumer. I don't go into the controller argument, since we already covered that.

If they won't devote time to an actual instrument, isn't there something to be said in that? Disregarding the fact that it's just a terrible game, it offers nothing that you can take away from the game. It's quick, meaningless entertainment (like almost all games today). I have yet to see any personal improvement that stems from Guitar Hero.

Congratulations for your friend. My friend plays Halo professionally (yet another game that is absolutely meaningless). Unfortunately, he should realize that Guitar Hero is just the fad of today. If he spent the effort into playing guitar, he could at least have some sort of renewable skill to fall back on. Even a studio musician position (playing rhythm or something) is more valuable than $5000 from a quick fad.

I'm sorry, but twenty years from now, there are going to be no "Guitar Hero XI" tournaments. At least with Halo, the basic skills haven't changed since early FPS games.

Edit: to clarify my point in the second paragraph, I'll never hear anyone say "My friend stopped doing smack once he learned the beauty and self-improving attitude of Guitar Hero."


how is wii boring i had a ton of fun with that game. you say that all wii games are meaningless i bet you that 90% of video games are meaningless (nomatter what system they are on) it's all for fun so just because you don't like it doesn't mean that everyone has to think it's boring and meaningless
#37
If it had more classic rock and metal songs it'd be good, because it'd bring rock further into the mainstream and hopefully take a step int he direction of getting rid of all the talentless artists in the mainstream today.
Although the new one does have some good stuff, particularly Satana.
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#38
I love Guitar Hero. This is because I can differentiate between playing a game and playing an instrument, which is something a lot of people on UG seemingly can't do. It's great to kill a bit of time, especially with musically illiterate friends/housemates.

And how else are you meant to have a guitar battle where you can make your opponents amp break without having to kick it and pay for a new one?
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^ Regardless of your arguments you have to take into account one thing. They are fucking video games. No one is looking for skills to rely on later in life. It's about fun, and if you want to spend all your time on it, it's fine. Some people love to play guitar, others Guitar Hero. As for the Wii being boring and pointless, how longs it been out? Do you not remember how long it took for the 360 to get a decent game? It will get better down the line. At any rate, it was a console built for children, hence the Wiimote and Nunchaku controller. Whatever, obviously you're not going to think any different about it.


360 has decent games!?

just kidding that's just my opinion on the 360, a majority of the really popular games on 360 are shooting games which I find boring since most of them seem the same to me, sept the one with a chainsaw gun (seriously wtf is that). The only reason I'd buy a 360 would be when Banjo Threeie comes out
#40
It's like a children's show; just because it appears to be fun on the outside, doesn't mean it can't harbor a message or skill to improve the viewer. For the older crowd, DOOM is like Blue's Clues. DOOM helps train hand-eye coordination and the skill is directly portable to hundreds of other FPS games, whereas Blue's Clues trains the viewer for logic and observation skills.

Guitar Hero's skills are portable to no other game or life event than Guitar Hero. I suppose one could argue that it inspires competitive behavior, but we get enough of that from every other facet of our society.

How long did it take for the NES to have a decent game? Oh, that's right, IT CAME WITH ONE. If developers put half the effort they put into developing that pointless Wiimote as they should have into building a better game, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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360 has decent games!?

just kidding that's just my opinion on the 360, a majority of the really popular games on 360 are shooting games which I find boring since most of them seem the same to me, sept the one with a chainsaw gun (seriously wtf is that). The only reason I'd buy a 360 would be when Banjo Threeie comes out


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