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Im watching Passion of the Christ on Channel 4. What a load of anti semitic bollocks.

Who has has seen it, and what do you think of it?
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It could do with a car chase and some explosions.


The Passion 2 : Crucify This! ( obscure family guy reference)
#5
We just had a thread on this like an hour ago.
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#6
I've got it on dvd.
But, i've never watched it.
it still remains un-open for 3 years.

#7
well, mel gbson was known to have slightly extremist views of the jewish sanhedrin wasnt he?
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Im watching Passion of the Christ on Channel 4. What a load of anti semitic bollocks.

Who has has seen it, and what do you think of it?


anti semitic huh? been reading into much media propaganda?

hate to break it to you but the JEWS KILLED JESUS.

whether or not you believe in jesus, religion, etc, that just how the story goes.

maybe we should be pissed about the movie pearl harbor because its anti japanese?
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#11
well, its 3 hours of my life that ill never get back. what a waste of time
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The Passion 2 : Crucify This! ( obscure family guy reference)

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#14
the film would help if it was on bloody english
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#15
All these movies with inexplicabley white Jesuses

It'd be cool to have just one good film about Jesus from an atheists perspective. Jesus the revolutionary! Jesus the Marxist! Jesus without having his legend corrupted by religion and religious politics.
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i.e the last temptation of christ

is that the one where he had secks?
#17
I consider myself a fairly religious person, and I went to go see it when it came out. I was floored at the amount on people who criticized it as if it were just another movie. To people like me, it really put in perspective, that is if Jesus DID suffer (which I believe he did), how much he had to endure. I thought it was a deeply moving EXPERIENCE as opposed to form of ENTERTAIMENT.
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anti semitic huh? been reading into much media propaganda?

hate to break it to you but the JEWS KILLED JESUS.

whether or not you believe in jesus, religion, etc, that just how the story goes.

maybe we should be pissed about the movie pearl harbor because its anti japanese?


^ and I second this. Don't have anything against the Jews, but the Jews of that time period did indeed kill the J-man.
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^ and I second this. Don't have anything against the Jews, but the Jews of that time period did indeed kill the J-man.


Or the people who did just happened to be Jewish, 'cause you know- near everyone was there and then.
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the bit near the end where one of the men being crucified starts praising jesus whilst the other one laughs is ridiculous. Because he laughs, a crow pecks his eyes???? Also, as jesus dies, there's an earthquake?? Its just ridiculous.

To Nolaureltree, i am aware that jews killed jesus. that's not why i think that its anti semitic. Its just the way that the jews were portrayed to be consistently demanding that he be crucified, whilst the romans didn't want it, the way that the jews torture him and so forth. The bible doesn't say that, so why would Gibson portray the jews like that??? Also, i don't need to read the media propaganda about this film. Its obvious to anyone who watches this that Gibson has put his anti semitic feelings into the film.
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the bit near the end where one of the men being crucified starts praising jesus whilst the other one laughs is ridiculous. Because he laughs, a crow pecks his eyes???? Also, as jesus dies, there's an earthquake?? Its just ridiculous.


That's straight out of the Bible, ridiculous or not, whether you believe in it or not.


Also, if people want to take the angle of it being a book turned movie, it's fairly accurate.
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the bit near the end where one of the men being crucified starts praising jesus whilst the other one laughs is ridiculous. Because he laughs, a crow pecks his eyes???? Also, as jesus dies, there's an earthquake?? Its just ridiculous.

To Nolaureltree, i am aware that jews killed jesus. that's not why i think that its anti semitic. Its just the way that the jews were portrayed to be consistently demanding that he be crucified, whilst the romans didn't want it, the way that the jews torture him and so forth. The bible doesn't say that, so why would Gibson portray the jews like that??? Also, i don't need to read the media propaganda about this film. Its obvious to anyone who watches this that Gibson has put his anti semitic feelings into the film.


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Or the people who did just happened to be Jewish, 'cause you know- near everyone was there and then.


So were they not Jews? And did they not put Jesus to death? I agree that the Jews of today had nothing to do with this, and hey, hindsight is 20/20, but yes, it was the Jews shouting "Crucify him! Crucify him!" when Pontius turned Him over to them. It was the Jewish high priests criticizing Him for offending the Jewish religion.
#26
I think it should ended like
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#28
it's a snuff film WITH JESUS! seriously, while a well done movie, the script and concept totally sucked.

and it needed more nudity.
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#29
So were they not Jews? And did they not put Jesus to death? I agree that the Jews of today had nothing to do with this, and hey, hindsight is 20/20, but yes, it was the Jews shouting "Crucify him! Crucify him!" when Pontius turned Him over to them. It was the Jewish high priests criticizing Him for offending the Jewish religion.


So what if they were, it's irrelevant. Had any other religion been the major one at that time in that place it would have been no different- considering he was a convicted criminal and that's largely what people saw him as back then. Like if someone killed for heresy a couple'a hundred years back became the figrehead of a massive religion, it wouldn't be fair to say "Christians killed him/her".

It's like those goths that killed that lass. Would it be fair to say "It was metalheads that killed this girl" and focus in on that point?
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the bit near the end where one of the men being crucified starts praising jesus whilst the other one laughs is ridiculous. Because he laughs, a crow pecks his eyes???? Also, as jesus dies, there's an earthquake?? Its just ridiculous.

To Nolaureltree, i am aware that jews killed jesus. that's not why i think that its anti semitic. Its just the way that the jews were portrayed to be consistently demanding that he be crucified, whilst the romans didn't want it, the way that the jews torture him and so forth. The bible doesn't say that, so why would Gibson portray the jews like that??? Also, i don't need to read the media propaganda about this film. Its obvious to anyone who watches this that Gibson has put his anti semitic feelings into the film.



well, this comes straight from luke 23


1Then the whole assembly rose and led him off to Pilate. 2And they began to accuse him, saying, "We have found this man subverting our nation. He opposes payment of taxes to Caesar and claims to be Christ,[a] a king."

3So Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?"
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

4Then Pilate announced to the chief priests and the crowd, "I find no basis for a charge against this man."

5But they insisted, "He stirs up the people all over Judeaby his teaching. He started in Galilee and has come all the way here."


a little research maybe next time before you start ranting? five minutes on google worked for me.
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#31
I don't even see why it matters who killed Jesus, I mean in order for Christianity to work Jesus had to be sacrificed, so wouldn't killing Jesus ultimately have been a good thing from a Christian perspective?
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#32
I'm beginning to rather dislike Channel 4's sensationalism. Sometimes it's amusing and thought provoking, but most of the time it's just manipulated statistics and outright trolling.

I mean god damn it, that episode of Dispatches about supermarket labelling; that show was the TV equivalent of a PROVE ME WRONG thread on /x/.
#33
The thing is the passion was a primative piece of medievel theatre used to whip up fervour and anti-semitism it has no basis in rational religion.
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So what if they were, it's irrelevant. Had any other religion been the major one at that time in that place it would have been no different- considering he was a convicted criminal and that's largely what people saw him as back then. Like if someone killed for heresy a couple'a hundred years back became the figrehead of a massive religion, it wouldn't be fair to say "Christians killed him/her".

It's like those goths that killed that lass. Would it be fair to say "It was metalheads that killed this girl" and focus in on that point?


If it was any other religion, the world would then blame (I use this term loosely) that religion, would they not? When I say that Jews killed Jesus, I don't mean THE Jews, as in a generalization of the religion, I am saying that the people who killed Jesus were indeed Jewish. I don't see how it is irrelevant that they were Jewish, because they (meaning all the Jews present, not Jews across all time periods and countries) were all united under under their religion with the goal of killing Jesus because He had offended their religion (Judaism) and its beliefs. And Jesus was NOT a convicted criminal. He was sent to Pontius Pilate, who said he "found no guilt in this man," and I do believe He was even sent to Herod II or something like that, or another high ranking official of that time, and was also found innocent there. It was when Pontius handed Him over to the Jews (once again I am referring to ONLY the Jews present), it was that group of Jews who took Him to Calvery and crucified him. And I, as a Christian, would be totally fine with the statement above. If the people who killed the figurehead were christians, and united to kill him in defense of their religion, then by golly, I'd say that it was christians who killed him. I'm not saying ALL christians should be blamed for this, just that certain group involved with the incident. It's like whites and blacks in America. Its a cryin' shame, but yes, whites segregated and abused blacks. The group of people who abused blacks didn't just "happen to be white." And almost every white person today won't deny that their race abused blacks throughout the history of America. Of course no one would even think of doing that today, and it wasn't all whites of the time, but it was a select group of whites, uniting under their race, to try to control a race they believed inferior to theirs.

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#35
Well with that new list of 7 deadly sins, maybe they'll have to redo the whole thing.

The Passion of the Christ: Reloaded.
#36
well, i don't believe that the gruesome details of his death are a necessary extension of the story. the point was what he died for, not how. i'm not a believer, this is just from a literary standpoint.
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I consider myself a fairly religious person, and I went to go see it when it came out. I was floored at the amount on people who criticized it as if it were just another movie. To people like me, it really put in perspective, that is if Jesus DID suffer (which I believe he did), how much he had to endure. I thought it was a deeply moving EXPERIENCE as opposed to form of ENTERTAIMENT.

I think their intent was to make the viewer suffer, like Jesus!
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The Passion 2 : Crucify This! ( obscure family guy reference)


Not that obscure... but, I agree.
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