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#1
pretty straight forward question, do u think the modern metal scene is turning into a circle of everyone doing pointless sweeps, ununderstandable vocals, and almost no melody, basically todays modern version of the end of the 80s
alot of new new bands are changing it like the old school thrashers did in my opinion its guys like trivium and black tide, and also we got some new aussies to deal with in airbourne
#2
I think the current metal scene is in the metal forum.
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#3
Airborne aren't metal, listen to them, then AC/DC. Hear the difference? I didn't.
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#4
airbourne isnt thrash.
so are you saying you don't like thrash?
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#5
He's talking about the ignorant label of music with guitars: Metal. Not the metal that makes you want to **** a chick or two.
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Airborne aren't metal, listen to them, then AC/DC. Hear the difference? I didn't.




It's so true. ƒuck metalcore. Ok, I don't mind some of it. ƒuck Trivium. ƒuck Guitar Hero (it's actually fun, but ƒuck the 12 year olds (not literally, pedophiles)), ƒuck Rock Band.

Seriously.

I can't stand it.

My dad teaches drums out of our house and I'm doing a few sweeps, warming up. Then he's like "Can you play Canon Rock? My friend can." I mean, sure, he's only a year younger than me. But still. Wanted to punch him in the face. I proceeded to demonstrate Riders by Outworld. Always makes the kids step down and shut up.
#7
airbourne is the a half-assed rip off band. i have less respect for them than axl rose. and i think the current metal scene is almost as bad as the current punk scene. and thats fricken brutal
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#8
Bands now are just in it for the money pretty much. What ever type of metal is selling, **** load of bands will follow. As for pointless sweeps, long ass annoying solos and alright vocals, yea, that's what its sounds like, take Dragon Force(sux) for example.
#9
pointless sweeps, ununderstandable vocals... you talking about old avenged sevenfold?
#10
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pointless sweeps, ununderstandable vocals... you talking about old avenged sevenfold?


I only heard them do like 2 4 string sweeps on City of Evil
#11
Nu metal is awesome.

I should find a way to inject System of a Down and Mudvayne directly into my bod.y
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I only heard them do like 2 4 string sweeps on City of Evil


that album was full of sweeps.
seize the day had tons at the end, and mia had quite a few in the solo.

and to TS
whats wrong with sweeping?
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I only heard them do like 2 4 string sweeps on City of Evil


+1

And we are talking about the metal scene.

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that album was full of sweeps.
seize the day had tons at the end, and mia had quite a few in the solo.

and to TS
whats wrong with sweeping?


I don't really like A7X, but I didn't mind that album. I was referring to the two in the Bat Country solo though
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airbourne is the a half-assed rip off band. i have less respect for them than axl rose. and i think the current metal scene is almost as bad as the current punk scene. and thats fricken brutal



so true. good punk and metal is dormant.
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trivium


Get out of my internets.

The Crusade is a killer song, I will give them that though.

Transcribed the bit with the pull-offs into a piano thing, and it sounds great. Also, calling Trivium not linear is like calling a dog turd a diamond.
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#17
theres a lot of metal thats good now. you just need to dig deep into the metal world and ask people in the metal forum. they will all refer you to a load of bands that make all of your statements false. Ununderstandable vocals is only if you don't know how to listen to those grunting growling bands. There are plenty of bands who don't have those vocals, but there are ones that do that are very understandable too with a little practice of listening to. and no, most good metal bands today don't have pointless sweeps. Also Trivium isn't metal. You're thinking of metalcore. Go to the metal forum. We will school you there.

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#18
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I don't really like A7X, but I didn't mind that album. I was referring to the two in the Bat Country solo though


right on, sorry about that.
yea, im not too much into them, thats their only album i didnt mind.
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#19
yes it sucks, and this is why:

the good old stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMlsxFLtZI&feature=related

what people consider the best of today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZYC19abOkc&feature=related
dude, what about an actual solo in death metal instead of that poof from linkin park. Think of Pulse of the Maggots - Bed Of Razors


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There's tons of good metal underground, e.g) Spawn of Possession, Dying Fetus, Stratovarius, Candlemass, Electric Wizard, etc.

And I personally love the crazy sweeping and shredding in death metal, but that's just my opinion. It's just the style of most brutal/tech. DM band, some may find it bland, but I find it pretty awesome to play.

If you're talking about metalcore, then I agree with you then (because it's not creative OR brutal/metal.). I still find it better better than nu-metal though, which is devoid of any guitar-related technical proficiency, good singing ('sides SOAD), and creativity.
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#21
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pretty straight forward question, do u think the modern metal scene is turning into a circle of everyone doing pointless sweeps, ununderstandable vocals, and almost no melody, basically todays modern version of the end of the 80s
alot of new new bands are changing it like the old school thrashers did in my opinion its guys like trivium and black tide, and also we got some new aussies to deal with in airbourne



I'll be nice and won't flame you to hell like other metal heads. Go to the metal forum and ask nicely in the rec thread, and we'll show you some good contemporary metal

Just as a start, go listen to Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Ne Obliviscaris, and maybe some Necrophagist.
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#22
I've pretty well stopped listening to all the new metal.
It's the same double bass drum beat and rhythm, who can sweep faster and the most, and who can scream ununderstandably. it just all sounds pretty well the same to me.
So I just stick to the old Metal and Hard Rock
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I've pretty well stopped listening to all the new metal.
It's the same double bass drum beat and rhythm, who can sweep faster and the most, and who can scream ununderstandably. it just all sounds pretty well the same to me.
So I just stick to the old Metal and Hard Rock


Eh, if it gets faster than Necrophagist, I don't bother. I like actually hearing notes, which I can do fairly well with the Necrophagist.
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#25
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I only heard them do like 2 4 string sweeps on City of Evil


dont get me wrong.. whether it be good or bad.. i love A7X.. and i love their early and new stuff.. but i cant even understand their old ****
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Here are some songs:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_VFJn2kJM
Blind Guardian:Valhalla

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dTYPSRIO0o4
Iced Earth: Melancholy (Holy Martyr)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5JSYiNrcc
Iced Earth: Dracula

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0MQJTVYwVw
Cynic:Evolutionary Sleeper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qhpBI4XoUs
Sleep Terror:Probing Tranquility

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC9w7pCIMQ
Arsis:The Face of my Innocence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEz9UhnnHBY
Farmakon: A Temporary Death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ih3JVrRPE
Agalloch:Falling Snow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1tWAlBfUTg
Nevermore:This Godless Endeavor

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2SRD6mjrUMo
Necrophagist:Fermented Offal Discharge You want melody, listen to the solo in this song, it will blow you mind!

Anyways, I'm tired now, so yeah I commend you if you watch all of these, and I highly recommend these songs if you haven't heard them already.
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#27
I liked SOAD a bit if you want to call that metal. All this metalcore and hardcore is garbage. In other news, Strapping Young Lad is awesome and so is Dying Fetus. That is real modern metal.
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and to TS
whats wrong with sweeping?

cuz every single sweep solo sounds exactly the same? I mean its cool and all, but they really all do sound the same.
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cuz every single sweep solo sounds exactly the same? I mean its cool and all, but they really all do sound the same.


Hey, man. Don't get all defensive. I mean, just because you can't do it...
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King Diamond before the video loaded. But seriously. That second video sucked. I like growls. Those were not growls.



thats the point. the second video consists of what people call "metal" today, but really, its just crappy generic melodic hardcore. there is still real metal as of today, like some people have stated, but what people consider "metal" now is really shying away from what it really once was
dude, what about an actual solo in death metal instead of that poof from linkin park. Think of Pulse of the Maggots - Bed Of Razors


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Hey, man. Don't get all defensive. I mean, just because you can't do it...

I wouldnt call that being defensive. No I cant sweep. I dont intend on learning to either.

Sweeping sounds like the color blue. Every single sweep sounds like blue.
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thats the point. the second video consists of what people call "metal" today, but really, its just crappy generic melodic hardcore. there is still real metal as of today, like some people have stated, but what people consider "metal" now is really shying away from what it really once was


Oh, definitely. I'm more of a 90's power and prog fan myself. Gotta love the 80's roots though. I just can't justify this to be metal.
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Oh, definitely. I'm more of a 90's power and prog fan myself. Gotta love the 80's roots though. I just can't justify this to be metal.



exactly! were on the same page (no pun intended) now!!
dude, what about an actual solo in death metal instead of that poof from linkin park. Think of Pulse of the Maggots - Bed Of Razors


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I wouldnt call that being defensive. No I cant sweep. I dont intend on learning to either.

Sweeping sounds like the color blue. Every single sweep sounds like blue.



Sorry, but you sir are wrong. I can understand if you don't like them, but to say they all sound alike is pretty ignorant. Go look up some Marty Friedman, Frank Gambale, Jason Becker, etc.
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exactly! were on the same page (no pun intended) now!!


I thought we were the whole time?
#36
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Hey, man. Don't get all defensive. I mean, just because you can't do it...


lol... i practiced sweeping like crazy.. hard ****...
#37
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Sorry, but you sir are wrong. I can understand if you don't like them, but to say they all sound alike is pretty ignorant. Go look up some Marty Friedman, Frank Gambale, Jason Becker, etc.

Im sorry, but every single sweep in any genre to to me sounds blue. Blues my favorite color, but thats doesnt make sweeps sound any less blue.
I never said I dont like them, they just all sound the same to me.
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I thought we were the whole time?


ya nvm we were :-[
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Im sorry, but every single sweep in any genre to to me sounds blue. Blues my favorite color, but thats doesnt make sweeps sound any less blue.
I never said I dont like them, they just all sound the same to me.



Eh whatever, if sweeping evokes abstract concepts in you, that's cool. We can agree to disagree.
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#40
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Eh whatever, if sweeping evokes abstract concepts in you, that's cool. We can agree to disagree.

Most music has a color. Am I the only one that hears it?
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