#1
On a guitar with a floyd style bridge and a locking nut is it normal to remove the locking nut? Like will it damage or cripple the guitar in any way?
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#2
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On a guitar with a floyd style bridge and a locking nut is it normal to remove the locking nut? Like will it damage or cripple the guitar in any way?


You will need to if you want to replace the strings
But no there is no risk in damaging your guitar. Locking nuts aren't really the most sophisticated pieces of technology out there. Just be sure to put it back the way they were (the top of the curve should be parallel with your strings).
#3
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You will need to if you want to replace the strings


You need remove and then re-glue the nut every time you replace the strings?
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#5
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No...

Why do you want to remove the nut?


Possibly in favor of an compensated nut such as the Buzz Feiten system.
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#6
Why are you removing it? It's fine to take it off for cleaning, maintenance, etc, but it really wouldn't make any sense to replace it with a regular nut if you still have a locking tremolo. You'd lose a lot of the tuning stability. It would be fine to replace it with a regular nut if you're putting the neck on a different guitar that doesn't have a locking trem, but the locking nut will function just fine as a regular nut if you just take the locking screws out.
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#7
Obviously yes...until you fit a new nut, at least. I can't think of many reasons to remove a locking nut though, you'd have to do some minor woodwork to fit a new one unless it was a roller nut, or something like an Earvana
#8
Well, what I'm really asking I guess is could I remove the locking nut to install the BFTS or an Earvana compensated nut without affecting the way the guitar works/sounds/plays etc...
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The biggest issue you would run into is the tuning stability. FR trems aren't exactly known for having awesome tuning stability and by removing one of the key things that keeps it decent in the first place is only going to accentuate the problem.
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#10
So is the locking nut the only thing thats actually locking on a guitar with a FR? Cuz I thought they were called "double-locking" for a reason.
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#11
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So is the locking nut the only thing thats actually locking on a guitar with a FR?

No, I never said that. The strings lock into the bridge as well. The reason the system is double locking is to improve tuning stability and to isolate the part of the string that gains/loses tension while the trem is in use. By removing the locking nut, you're losing tuning stability as the strings will stretch in vastly different amounts if you use the trem. You'll also relieve/increase any tension between the tuners and the nut which further extrapolate the problem. You can try it if you want, it might not be very noticeable when it's all said and done.
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#12
You do nut remove the nut. You remove the STRING LOCKS when changing strings. Likewise they are not glued down. And finally, what Kendall said is correct.
#13
Well shoot...I thought it wouldn't be a big deal. I just want a guitar with 100% perfect intonation and a FR
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#14
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Well shoot...I thought it wouldn't be a big deal. I just want a guitar with 100% perfect intonation and a FR



Then you need one of these...

http://www.novaxguitars.com/

Or one of those guitars with the crazy zig zag frets.
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#15
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Then you need one of these...

http://www.novaxguitars.com/

Or one of those guitars with the crazy zig zag frets.


Thats kinda cool I guess...
And the true temperment fret system is really cool I would love to try it but its too expensive for me atm.

How do all those famous players get such good intonation? I've played some very well set-up guitars but never one with perfect intonation.
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#16
Well, if you're really serious about it, you could always be the guy who invents the "Compensated Locking Nut".
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#17
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Well, if you're really serious about it, you could always be the guy who invents the "Compensated Locking Nut".


Genius...I'll start right away!
But srsly thats a good idea I might actually try it sometime in the future.
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#18
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How do all those famous players get such good intonation? I've played some very well set-up guitars but never one with perfect intonation.


They have guitar techs who sit around all day making sure their guitars are as perfect as possible. Plus I doubt their intonation is perfect.
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They have guitar techs who sit around all day making sure their guitars are as perfect as possible. Plus I doubt their intonation is perfect.


I'm my own guitar tech that sits around all day

And I heard that since the guitar is not a tempered instrument it is impossible to have perfect intonation without the help of something like the BFTS or the true temperment fret system.
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#20
It's impossible to have perfect intonation on straight frets. Steve Vai uses "wave-fret" on some of his experimental JEMs.
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#21
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It's impossible to have perfect intonation on straight frets. Steve Vai uses "wave-fret" on some of his experimental JEMs.


Yeah, those are the "zig zag" frets I mentioned earlier. I didn't know what they are called.
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#22
One thing to think about is how many people will actually notice/care. Of course you will, and that's of the utmost importance, but if nobody else will give it a second glance then it may not be worth the headache. The Buzz Feiten and Earvana systems have been around for a while but most guitarists simply don't care enough to demand them on a more widespread basis.
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