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#1
So, a huge oppertunity has opened up for me to join this band, which is all experimental, ambient rock instrumental.
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And been ampless right now and getting ALOT of money fairly soon I can splash out for a nice amp with endless cleans. I dont need overdrive at all. If it has good od, thats a plus.

Im looking into Fenders, but dont know what one to look at because of all the god damn different names I prefere american voiced if possible but Im willing to try any out.

So any suggestions on a few fenders or anyother company would be great, no price limit either so dont worry

And now another thing. a nice delay pedal. Its one of the most important aspects of my sound. So it has to be quality. But not a pedal Im afraid to get wrecked or anything lol! Any suggestions?

As for over drive, Im getting two tubescreamers, one for od and another for boost.

And whatever else I need I will update the thread.

Cheers for the help!
#2
Yeah, I'd go for a Fender. Anything above 40 watts should give you more clean headroom than you'll ever need.

Maybe consider a Vox AC30 as well.

EDIT: as for a delay, well, I know Roland makes a tape echo simulator. And Moog makes a very expensive (but likely very good) analog delay.
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#3
You should definatly get a fender amp, can't point you to a specific model though. As for delay, you should go with an electro-harmonix deluxe memory man, best delay on the market, although its really pricey.
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#4
If you can afford it get a Two Rock. I finally got a chance to try one yesterday and the cleans were AMAZING.
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#5
Fender Hotrod or Blues series.
Or, if you can pick up a ceriatone blackface (I don't know how much you will spend).
Make sure to get a higher wattage so you get more clean headroom.
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Quote by darkarbiter7
Fender Hotrod or Blues series.
Or, if you can pick up a ceriatone blackface (I don't know how much you will spend).
Make sure to get a higher wattage so you get more clean headroom.


+1 to that

also look into used musicman amps from the 70s and 80s. they have a GREAT clean and reverb is pretty amazing also. I'm telling you it sounds like a Deluxe reverb or the like not quite as good but like a small version of it

also look into a Roland JC-120
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Are you looking for straight up plain clean, or something centered around clean/mild OD tones? I've been scoping out some clean amps for a while, but the OD was important to me too. Dr. Z makes some really nice amps for those tones. Carr and Divided by 13 were also some others I was checking out, but hella pricey. Check out the Paisley clips at the bottom of this page, those Z's sound badass. http://www.drzamps.com/rxes.html

Want to see a cool vid? This guy Troy Grady goes to Ultrasound studios in NYC. They let you rent rehearsal time to play thru their amps, and then let you deduct the cost if you actually buy an amp, since they are a dealer too. Some kickass amps he demos. Not much straight cleans, just so many boutique amps, it's fun to watch. http://www.troygrady.com/mov/amps.mov

By the way, if you can get anywhere near decent prices on the Cornford stuff, check out the new MkII 50, it's supposed to be a phenomenal amp. A friend of mine just got one, and he absolutely loves it. That reminds me, I "think" the Cornford Guthrie uses is a MkI. Such a sick player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPEewaalik
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#9
If you're looking for clean-cleans, then Roland Jazz Chorus pretty much dominates that. I hear they handle pedals exceptionally well.
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If you're looking for clean-cleans, then Roland Jazz Chorus pretty much dominates that. I hear they handle pedals exceptionally well.


They handle SOME pedals really well. The Jazz Chorus' strength lies in its ability to amplify your guitar tone with minimal colouring of the signal.

I'm sure you understand what that means, but for some other people who might not, this means it REALLY shows through if your using a bad guitar/bad pickups/bad pedals or play sloppy.

So while they have the clearest sound of most amps out there, depending on the player & the other gear, the could also be the worst amp for them.
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#11
Quote by Wulver
Yeah, I'd go for a Fender. Anything above 40 watts should give you more clean headroom than you'll ever need.

Maybe consider a Vox AC30 as well.

EDIT: as for a delay, well, I know Roland makes a tape echo simulator. And Moog makes a very expensive (but likely very good) analog delay.

I was thinking of looking at 80 watts the most. If I could find one I liked it would be a plus.

As much as I like the AC30 its not what I would be looking for!

Ah, Moog, one company I forgot. I was also looking at a T-rex delay. Are they good? Going by the price they would want to be lol!

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You should definatly get a fender amp, can't point you to a specific model though. As for delay, you should go with an electro-harmonix deluxe memory man, best delay on the market, although its really pricey.

Yeah I was looking into them, they seem pretty good!

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If you can afford it get a Two Rock. I finally got a chance to try one yesterday and the cleans were AMAZING.

Do you know what model it was you were playing? They seem very interesting!!
Quote by darkarbiter7
Fender Hotrod or Blues series.
Or, if you can pick up a ceriatone blackface (I don't know how much you will spend).
Make sure to get a higher wattage so you get more clean headroom.

I played the hotrod for a good while, thought it was nice but I thought I could do better seeing as I have the money!
I will look into the Ceriatone Blackface, can they assemble it for me ya?
And definally a high wattage!

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Are you looking for straight up plain clean, or something centered around clean/mild OD tones? I've been scoping out some clean amps for a while, but the OD was important to me too. Dr. Z makes some really nice amps for those tones. Carr and Divided by 13 were also some others I was checking out, but hella pricey. Check out the Paisley clips at the bottom of this page, those Z's sound badass. http://www.drzamps.com/rxes.html

Want to see a cool vid? This guy Troy Grady goes to Ultrasound studios in NYC. They let you rent rehearsal time to play thru their amps, and then let you deduct the cost if you actually buy an amp, since they are a dealer too. Some kickass amps he demos. Not much straight cleans, just so many boutique amps, it's fun to watch. http://www.troygrady.com/mov/amps.mov

By the way, if you can get anywhere near decent prices on the Cornford stuff, check out the new MkII 50, it's supposed to be a phenomenal amp. A friend of mine just got one, and he absolutely loves it. That reminds me, I "think" the Cornford Guthrie uses is a MkI. Such a sick player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPEewaalik

Well, its pure clean with very very slight break-up. Check out the songs in the link and you will see what Im talking about

Checked out Dr. Z, Very nice. But no clips of just clean! But none the less Im gonna look into them!

The video didnt work

Yeah I will look into cornford, but the only place I could find them cheap doesnt stock them any more
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If you can afford it get a Two Rock. I finally got a chance to try one yesterday and the cleans were AMAZING.


which TR did you play?
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#14
I'm not really contributing but just wanna say GIAA are ****ing awesome!

Good luck if you get to join them!
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You should definatly get a fender amp, can't point you to a specific model though. As for delay, you should go with an electro-harmonix deluxe memory man, best delay on the market, although its really pricey.

+1.

Look into the Deluxe Reverb, or was it the Twin, I can't remember.

All I know is that one had too much clean headroom, and one had not enough.
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#16
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How does the twin reverb hold up does anyone know?

i'll probably get hurt for this, but i was never impressed with the [reissue] twin reverbs' clean. it just didn't sparkle, and maybe because the bright switch was left off as it's too piercing. but fender's hot rods and blues junior have the sparkliness i was looking for.

hate to say it, but from the amp's i tried, a mark III or IV has my favorite rounded/glassy/fendery clean. and yeah, i guess it's kinda the opposite of what you're looking for, with all the versatility... sorry ha. the orange rockerverb has very nice cleans too (and great drive, so it's a plus i guess).
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i'll probably get hurt for this, but i was never impressed with the [reissue] twin reverbs' clean. it just didn't sparkle, and maybe because the bright switch was left off as it's too piercing. but fender's hot rods and blues junior have the sparkliness i was looking for.

hate to say it, but from the amp's i tried, a mark III or IV has my favorite rounded/glassy/fendery clean. and yeah, i guess it's kinda the opposite of what you're looking for, with all the versatility... sorry ha. the orange rockerverb has very nice cleans too (and great drive, so it's a plus i guess).

So would it be better to look for a older model twin? Because I found a silverface model from 1975.

I will look into the rockerverb definally. They are cheap enough too!
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which TR did you play?

I'm pretty sure it was a Jet.
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#20
Older Fender if possible, the cleans are amazing.

Delay, for ambient noises try the DL-4, and if you can afford it also get a Deluxe memory man. The two delays will rock.
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#21
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So would it be better to look for a older model twin? Because I found a silverface model from 1975.

I will look into the rockerverb definally. They are cheap enough too!

my other friend has a 70s silverface twin, and though i haven't played it in a few months, i remember it blew me away the first time hahah. check with mr. hankey, since he lives/breathes fender

and god, the rockerverb is just amazing... *drools*
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$3000 for the Jet head.
Only 20 watts tho..

You can usually get pretty good deals on used ones. http://instruments.search.ebay.com/two-rock_Musical-Instruments_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR40QQsacatZ619 and if you decide you don't like it keep in mind that you will easily be able to make all your money back.
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#23
Any Fender Tube Combo, srsly


My supersonics cleans are so shimmery and smooth, and using single coils give it that nice round glassy sound.

And there is so much headroom, so cranking it wont make it dirty
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Quote by Lightitup
Older Fender if possible, the cleans are amazing.

Delay, for ambient noises try the DL-4, and if you can afford it also get a Deluxe memory man. The two delays will rock.

Have a damn big list of delays to try out, tho the DMM is really tempting me now

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my other friend has a 70s silverface twin, and though i haven't played it in a few months, i remember it blew me away the first time hahah. check with mr. hankey, since he lives/breathes fender

and god, the rockerverb is just amazing... *drools*

Would you compare the Silver face twin to the RV?

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Bookmarked that page, and will keep a look out for them

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Any Fender Tube Combo, srsly


My supersonics cleans are so shimmery and smooth, and using single coils give it that nice round glassy sound.

And there is so much headroom, so cranking it wont make it dirty

Well Im gonna aim above 40 watts to get max head room. But I will definally play around to see. More than likely with mic'ing up a lower wattage could be the way to aim.
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Would you compare the Silver face twin to the RV?

hm, their cleans are both great, just a little different. twin's cleans are clean and glassy, but for some reason, the rv just seems to jangle and chime. i can vaguely hear someone hitting a bell everytime i hit a note. it's weird o_O
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Well the Supersonic is 60 watts on the combo

and its PLENTY loud

Its also got besides the amazing cleans, amazing high gain/ med gain tones on the burn channel


So its very versatile of you need a lot of different tones
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hm, their cleans are both great, just a little different. twin's cleans are clean and glassy, but for some reason, the rv just seems to jangle and chime. i can vaguely hear someone hitting a bell everytime i hit a note. it's weird o_O

I have been listening to clips that I found and the RV seems to be more what Im going for. Must try and play one!

Quote by Teh GIR
Well the Supersonic is 60 watts on the combo

and its PLENTY loud

Its also got besides the amazing cleans, amazing high gain/ med gain tones on the burn channel


So its very versatile of you need a lot of different tones

I played the supersonic for a few minutes only. Didnt get to crank it tho, so I felt it was mediocre. But as I said, didnt get to crank it at all. Might give it another go.

Well for once the key here isnt versatility!
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I have been listening to clips that I found and the RV seems to be more what Im going for. Must try and play one!

it's a must try! hopefully it does work out for you. cause then you could ship over to me on weekends...
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it's a must try! hopefully it does work out for you. cause then you could ship over to me on weekends...

Haha! And you can ship the Mark to me
#31
i like that idea actually

so uh, yeah... go on and get that orange... hahaha.
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i like that idea actually

so uh, yeah... go on and get that orange... hahaha.

haha, ok. *sets off on a dark mystical jouney with one mission and one mission only*
#33
twin reverb they will not break up. Cleanest beast There is.
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#34
I would say look into a Twin Reverb, but if you don't have the money then a Hotrod Deluxe/Deville would suit you too. The JC-120 seems far too sterile with no character.
#35
Get a rockerverb
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#36
one more suggestion for a delay: go ahead and get whatever modern one you want, but also get a vintage tape delay. Univox tape echoes are on eBay almost constantly, and it would give you a greater variety in your tonal palette. Also, I'm not sure if you can get digital delays to oscillate or not....
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#37
^Actually I was looking into one of those a while back.

Would I not have to buy tapes eventually?
#38
Probably yes, but I'd imagine not very often. Depends on the pedal too, I guess.

Of course finding tapes can be difficult for discontinued pedals - or not, what do I know. But might be a good idea to check it out.
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#39
Thats what I would be afraid of.

I might look into the newer models. Seeing them go for 400euro which aint too bad.

Tho the first two Im checking out are the DMM and T-rex.
#40
Carr Rambler. Seriously, sounds like the most perfect amp to ever have existed, to my ears at least.

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I know you said about wanting at least 40W for headroom, but it would go plenty loud enough with un-miked cleans for most situations. And you could always get a more efficient speaker if need be.

If it's not enough for you though, there are some specific Ceriatone clones I'd recommend -

Super
BandMaster
Overtone

I think the Fenders are about 40W each, and the Dumble copy is 50W.

Hope that all helps
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