#1
I've read a lot on screaming (in a musical sense) and how to do it and what to avoid. Yet I still have trouble pulling it off. So I was hoping for some info from any of you who may have experience with screams? How long did it take you to learn? What techniques did you use? What would you recommend?

Also, do you think the ability to scream in this sense is a natural talent or can anyone learn it?
#8
some people just can't scream man. i know for a fact i can't, i've tried it. i just sound like an old geezard coughing up a lung afterwards.
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#10
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Screaming doesn't need learning, otherwise you're defeating the point of screaming.

true, but you can seriously mess up your voice doing this, like davey havok from afi, i think he had to have surgery because he was makeing his throat bleed every time he did it.

so moral of the story, it doesnt need learning, but to do it write you need some help, so you dont screw yourself over.

and to TS, what songs are you doing it too? is it something you feel strongly about, because sometimes i cant do it because i just dont "feel" it.

and also are you keeping hydrated, you cant really do it if you have eaten certain things recently, like dairy kinda screws me up, and alot of soda can screw me up too. just stick to water.

*note: i am not a professional at screaming, i just started trying, and thought i would say some things that i personally have found.
#11
I don't know how to explain it, really. It came so naturally to me. I listened to metal enough to where I could do it effortlessly. I can pull out metalcore Killswitch Engage/All That Remains type screams easily, but I have trouble doing growls and screamo screams.

But to get back to helping, maybe pick up the Zen of Screaming?

Anyone can learn how to scream...it's doing it properly with no pain involved, and with plenty of breaths and diaphragm pressure to make it clear, that takes practice.
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#12
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I don't know how to explain it, really. It came so naturally to me. I listened to metal enough to where I could do it effortlessly. I can pull out metalcore Killswitch Engage/All That Remains type screams easily, but I have trouble doing growls and screamo screams.

But to get back to helping, maybe pick up the Zen of Screaming?

Anyone can learn how to scream...it's doing it properly with no pain involved, and with plenty of breaths and diaphragm pressure to make it clear, that takes practice.

yeah same it came naturally and i listen to alot of old avenged sevenfold and the more i do it the better and louder i get
#13
Just try it, i can guarantee you havent tried it cos your to afraid of people hearing you.
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If you ever want to have a tolerable singing voice don't scream.

wrong.
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#15
Ive kicked my little bros ass a few times for screaming lycrics unproperly.......its a very fine art
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wrong.
case in point: Jari maenpaa


Yeah, you're right; allow me to correct myself:

If you ever want to be a GOOD singer, don't scream.

EDIT: It's incredible how involved people have become with screaming. Up until recently I didn't think there was much thought put into it, but it's a technique like any other.
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#18
Don't use your throat, use your stomach (if that makes sense).
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Yeah, you're right; allow me to correct myself:

If you ever want to be a GOOD singer, don't scream.

EDIT: It's incredible how involved people have become with screaming. Up until recently I didn't think there was much thought put into it, but it's a technique like any other.


Case in point: Devin Townsend
#21
3 places / things to look at...
1. the growling thread in the metal forum.
2. www.angelagossow.com - there is an entire section dedicated to screaming techniques
3. buy the dvd 'the zen of screaming' by melissa cross. it's in a lot of music / guitar stores.
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Don't use your throat, use your stomach (if that makes sense).



Very correct! Thats what a lot of people stumble on.
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it comes naturally


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Yeah, you're right; allow me to correct myself:

If you ever want to be a GOOD singer, don't scream.

EDIT: It's incredible how involved people have become with screaming. Up until recently I didn't think there was much thought put into it, but it's a technique like any other.

Case in point: Mikael Åkerfeldt
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#25
a trick i learned....that can keep you from damaging your throat too much, and actually have some vocal control of your scream...is to bite down on a pencil and practice throwing your voice "over" the pencil. its kinda hard to explain over the internet, but look around and you might be able to find a better explanation of it.

edit: and of course breathe into the diaphragm (think thats spelt right) not into your chest, and when you let out your scream, focus on something far away from you and imagine you want your voice to reach it.
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#26
from what i've learnt, it's very akin to singing, in that alot of things are required.

proper breathing

constant hydration (you may be trying to do it without hurting your throat, but even singers need to drink heaps)

just look up tips on singing and use them, for example, you must use alot of force, but if it ever starts hurting, then stop.

there is definetely a way to scream and growl and grunt and squeal all you want without damaging your voice in anyway, look at tommy rogers from between the buried and me, he can do any vocal technique under the sun, yet he can still sing beautifully, and has a normal voice.

and aswell as singing, remember anyone can do it, but it just varies on how good it sounds.
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#27
Right now I'm trying to increase my lung capacity...I have to take semi-deep to deep breaths to do my best screams at the moment, and I start to lose good clarity and my voice starts to crack after a while.

Anyone know any tricks to help me with this?
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#29
yeah dont push from your throat i did that way to much and ended up getting a node on my vocal chords and had to have surgery to remove it...but pushing from your diaphragm and stomach are the best ways to do it.
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#30
try honey or lemon. hell even that cherry throat spray helps. i cant remember the name of it though...but im pretty sure you know what im talking about.
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#31
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I can pull it off.....

But, practice is all I can say. You have it when you can make the right noise, without ruining your throat. and practice your breathing. I for some reason neve had problems with breathing.
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#33
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If you ever want to have a tolerable singing voice don't scream.


Not true. Listen to Opeth. Besides, I can scream, and still have a good singing voice.
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