#1
I've been playing electric for 4 years and just bought my first acoustic guitar, a takamine G440c. couple of questions here, feel free to answers any or all....

i'm used to the low action on my electric so is there any way to lower the action more besides modifying the nut or bridge? i've already tightened the truss rod as much as it will go, its not budging anymore.

will lighter gauge strings (10s) help me crank the truss rod more and hopefully lower the action and relieve the string tension. i'm used to light strings (9s) on my strat, so these feel unbendable! it didn't say what size came with the guitar, but i'm guessing probably 12s?

and if i switch to 10s, will it change the tone that much? i like the sound of it, just not how my fingertips are raw. I'm sure i could get used to heavier strings, but i'm a wuss. Thanks!
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#2
hahahaha
i hear this a lot with people new to acoustics. You can drop 10's on your acoustic and it will only take away from the "fatness" of the sound(which is what i love about acoustic but non musicians cant hear it most of the time). im not sure if this will lower the action though. If you take it it and have them lower the nut/bridge then it will only be a 1 time fee that should please you a great deal.
and your fingers will toughen up, just play chords or slide instead of bend until your finger strength increases
#3
haha...and takamines aren't even that bad either - you should try an old Yamaha FG. With time your hands will adjust and harden up - but I know the feeling. Be careful with that truss-rod - it seems your crankin' it to the extreme.
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#4
Be careful with that truss-rod - it seems your crankin' it to the extreme.

I'm guessing i do have the truss rod too tight if its not budging... still the neck is totally straight, and the action gets higher farther down the neck. i got a cutaway so i could play the high frets, and it is playable, but not its not low enough! Thanks again!
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Quote by JLJohnson_21
I've been playing electric for 4 years and just bought my first acoustic guitar, a takamine G440c. couple of questions here, feel free to answers any or all....

i'm used to the low action on my electric so is there any way to lower the action more besides modifying the nut or bridge? i've already tightened the truss rod as much as it will go, its not budging anymore.

will lighter gauge strings (10s) help me crank the truss rod more and hopefully lower the action and relieve the string tension. i'm used to light strings (9s) on my strat, so these feel unbendable! it didn't say what size came with the guitar, but i'm guessing probably 12s?

and if i switch to 10s, will it change the tone that much? i like the sound of it, just not how my fingertips are raw. I'm sure i could get used to heavier strings, but i'm a wuss. Thanks!


Well way to go brainiac! You more than likely just screwed your guitar completely. If you're lucky, a talented luthier can get it back into shape for you, assuming you didn't strip out the ends of the truss rod already. You didn't think to ask first if that was even an adjustment you should be messing with? No, lighter strings won't help you crank even more on the truss rod. Take it in, tell them what you did, be ready for some verbal abuse, eat some crow, and hope you didn't fubar (F*cked Up Beyond All Repair) your guitar. (btw, I wouldn't have been so harsh on you if you were a noob, but you said you've been playing electrics for 4 yrs now, so you ought to know better)
Now then, if you want to learn how the truss rod works, and it's relationship to action, read on here:

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=622232
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haha... relax man, pretty sure the guitar isn't f*cked up (although i just loosened it some just in case what ever happened to minnesota nice? i probably will have it professionally setup though sometime soon.
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haha... relax man, pretty sure the guitar isn't f*cked up (although i just loosened it some just in case what ever happened to minnesota nice? i probably will have it professionally setup though sometime soon.

You obviously have no idea how the slightest adjustment to the truss rod can damage a guitar. I've seen the truss rod be the cause for the fingerboard ripping clear off the neck and yanking the neck out of its pocket. The longer you let this go, the worse its going to be. You might want to listen to both LeftyDave and I. LeftyDave has many, many years of experience under his belt, and I have four years of actual shop work. Don't second-guess his advice for even a minute.

"Minnesota nice" stops cold in the face of stupidity.
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haha... relax man, pretty sure the guitar isn't f*cked up (although i just loosened it some just in case what ever happened to minnesota nice? i probably will have it professionally setup though sometime soon.


Whoever told you we were nice in Minnesota? maybe, but nice? Never! lol
Na man, I'm cool with it. Just wanted to make my point loud and clear is all. You did get the message I assume?
Chad's right, I've been in this game for a long time now, and seen my fair share of crazy stuff. It irks me to no end to hear of someone doing that to a nice acoustic. Treat her like a lady and she'll reward you instantly. Think of it that way and you'll have much better luck.
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You obviously have no idea how the slightest adjustment to the truss rod can damage a guitar. I've seen the truss rod be the cause for the fingerboard ripping clear off the neck and yanking the neck out of its pocket. The longer you let this go, the worse its going to be. You might want to listen to both LeftyDave and I. LeftyDave has many, many years of experience under his belt, and I have four years of actual shop work. Don't second-guess his advice for even a minute.

I shall heed your advice and relieve the neck to the factory setting til i get it setup. still i don't think the anonymity of the internet gives you the right to be rude :P
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Quote by JLJohnson_21
haha... relax man, pretty sure the guitar isn't f*cked up (although i just loosened it some just in case what ever happened to minnesota nice? i probably will have it professionally setup though sometime soon.

You should listen to the people here who know -- you should never try to adjust you action by messing with the truss rod. I would get that professional setup sooner than later -- like yesterday!

But that's how we learn -- I hope your guitar comes home safe.
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Whoever told you we were nice in Minnesota? maybe, but nice? Never! lol
Na man, I'm cool with it. Just wanted to make my point loud and clear is all. You did get the message I assume?
Chad's right, I've been in this game for a long time now, and seen my fair share of crazy stuff. It irks me to no end to hear of someone doing that to a nice acoustic. Treat her like a lady and she'll reward you instantly. Think of it that way and you'll have much better luck.

yep i got it loud and clear. thanks for the advice guys. i actually live in minnesota (st. cloud) so i should know better by now, haha.
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Quote by JLJohnson_21
I shall heed your advice and relieve the neck to the factory setting til i get it setup. still i don't think the anonymity of the internet gives you the right to be rude :P

Oh trust me, if you were in my shop, I'd be just as rude to your face. I would've been patient, had you not decided to scoff at the advice of a seasoned repairman.

If you've learnt a valuable lesson, that's all that matters. Do your homework, first.
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