Poll: Your type of guitarist?
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View poll results: Your type of guitarist?
Speed and Technically Ability e.g Malmsteen
44 12%
Slower and Emotive e.g Gilmour
132 36%
Both - if possible - tell me who and why
192 52%
Voters: 368.
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#1
I was browsing through all these forums and was just wondering....

you have players like Malmsteen who like the scales and will quite happily play for you at 10-20-30nps ish, but lack the soul (and maybe tone?) of certain other players

such as

David Gilmour, who (and we must be honest) is not the fastest player in history, but seems to put every ounce of emotion into each and every note he plays

there are some that may have both (if lucky - some might say Vai?) but really you have two massive dif. ends of the spectrum with very little in the middle

i've put a small poll up, but im guessing most people will choose option 3 - but i want the views on why that person goes with no.3 and some examples of speed and emotion throughout their career.
#2
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Tom Scholz. perfect melody and phrasing not super soulful not super fast. Right in the middle perfect
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#9
Well let's have someone who's probably the best at both and say Buckethead =3
Beautiful melody coupled perfectly with intense shred, neither takes anything away from the other, the way he uses them is really incredible.
Aside fromthat , he uses effects incredibly well and excells in a multitude of different styles.
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#10
Quote by denizenz
Speed = Emotion.



Only occasionally.

Most speed = mindless and emotionless crap shredding


Example = Zak Wylde
RIP Tom Searle.
#12
Quote by MH400
Only occasionally.

Most speed = mindless and emotionless crap shredding


Example = Zak Wylde


Hardly a good example, he's more about an overuse of pinch harmonics.

Malmsteen though.....terrible musician.....
#13
Both, like Michael Amott, he has the neo classical sense of brain bending speed and technicality, but he and his brother - Chris, who's more of a shredder - are able to pull off some extremely beautiful melodies, packed with emotion.

I'm more into the faster and more technical side of things, though.
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#14
John Butler

I voted slower and more emotion, but I think he qualifies for 'both'
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Quote by MH400
Only occasionally.

Most speed = mindless and emotionless crap shredding


Example = Zak Wylde


Someone's a little jealous...
#17
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Tom Scholz. perfect melody and phrasing not super soulful not super fast. Right in the middle perfect


good example!!
#18
Slower. Someone like Mikael Akerfeldt.

I don't care much nowadays for tear-jerking or face-melting solo.

I'm a rhythm kinda guy.
#19
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I'm a rhythm kinda guy.


either love it or hate it! haha

good answer. didnt think of that!
#20
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Umm. No.
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#23
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good example!!
What about Neal Schon and Brian May, then

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#24
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I don't think so. He definatly had emotion and was a good guitar player. but he wasn't that fast and didn't have much technical ability imo
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#25
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Speed = Emotion.


Class, today we're going to learn how a simple "if, then" statement works. For example: if speed = emotion, then denizenz = fail.
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#26
Anyone who thinks Zakk's playing lacks emotion, just remember the No More Tears solo. I've always felt that Chuck Schuldiner always combined emotional content and speed/technicality into his playing the most. But that's probably because I'm such a mark for him, and he's biggest influence on my playing
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What about Neal Schon and Brian May, then

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+1 to that. Tom scholz and Brian May go hand in hand. They are so much alike its kinda scary
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John Butler

I voted slower and more emotion, but I think he qualifies for 'both'


good answer... hes awesome
#31
I would say both, but i myself like slower stuff more often than shreddy stuff. A decent example would be Claudio Sanchez. He writes awesome songs and riffs, and can play pretty fast, like in some of the newer songs. But he can also do slow, bluesy stuff, like the Final Cuts ending solo or The End Complete 5. And the songs he writes are on either end of things. He can write poppy, simple songs, like Feathers or Favor House Atlantic, or some pretty dark, long, and proggy songs, like The Willing Well 3.
#32
Quote by denizenz
Speed = Emotion.


Yes, that's what I want to hear. I hate how much hatred for shredding and fast guitarists people have nowadays. They immediately assume that if a guitarist can play accurately at 200bpm they play with no emotion. That's not true in the least, using Malmsteen was a very bad example; but he does cover huge amounts of classical music which is filled with emotion.

People like Michael Amott, Chris Amott, Petrucci, Gary Holt, Lee Altus, Mustaine and Dimebag all play at great speed in their solos, but they have great amounts of emotion in many of their solos. I think this hatred of fast guitar players just stems from jealously of stumpy fingered turds.
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#33
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Umm. No.

I think so. At least you got the mindless bit right. You just say the word and the man can rip out an amazing solo. Can you do that? No? Then leave Zakk alone, please.
#34
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What about Neal Schon and Brian May, then

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i do like May a lot - whats the quickest he's played? i havent seen stuff that speedy but please tell me people.
Schon im not particularly keen on as he seems a bit mixed - but some great stuff along the way no doubt

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I don't think so. He definatly had emotion and was a good guitar player. but he wasn't that fast and didn't have much technical ability imo


ummm thats not true - listen to some bootlegs! machine gun! wowow


+++No More Tears solo is a perfect example of both - thanks Id
#35
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Class, today we're going to learn how a simple "if, then" statement works. For example: if speed = emotion, then denizenz = fail.

Moron, your equation is wrong.

If speed = emotion, then denizenz = correct.

In order to insult me, you would have had to state clearly that speed =/= emotion. Which you didn't do, so you fail.
#36
John Williams is an amazing technician, but with over 600 recordings and a repertoire as huge as his, he plays much more than speed. He plays "Asturias" very fast, but this piece, although not as fast, is a piece that is much more difficult than meets the eye, and most university professors would only let a pretty advanced player learn it. I used to know it, but looking back, and regret learning it, because even though I could play the notes, I couldn't play it well.

He's also a good sight-reader, and really defines what a virtuoso of guitar is. Although I don't think guitarists like Satriani, Malmsteen, Herman Li, Hendrix, Petrucci, etc. are virtuosos.
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#38
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He's also a good sight-reader, and really defines what a virtuoso of guitar is. Although I don't think guitarists like Satriani, Malmsteen, Herman Li, Hendrix, Petrucci, etc. are virtuosos.



Now now, they use different techniques but they are technical nonetheless.
#39
Quote by denizenz
Moron, your equation is wrong.

If speed = emotion, then denizenz = correct.

In order to insult me, you would have had to state clearly that speed =/= emotion. Which you didn't do, so you fail.


Just because a solo is fast does not mean that it has emotion. Same thing with a slow solo. Both types of music have emotion in them, it isn't limited by speed.
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#40
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John Williams is an amazing technician, but with over 600 recordings and a repertoire as huge as his, he plays much more than speed. He plays "Asturias" very fast, but this piece, although not as fast, is a piece that is much more difficult than meets the eye, and most university professors would only let a pretty advanced player learn it. I used to know it, but looking back, and regret learning it, because even though I could play the notes, I couldn't play it well.

He's also a good sight-reader, and really defines what a virtuoso of guitar is. Although I don't think guitarists like Satriani, Malmsteen, Herman Li, Hendrix, Petrucci, etc. are virtuosos.


John Williams? The guy who did the Star Wars music?
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