#1
I'm getting a new guitar, and I quite fancy a Les Paul, I've been having a browse on a few websites and like the look of a few:

Epiphone Standard/Standard Plain Top/Standard Plus
Vintage Advance AV1H
Ibanez ART120

I like music like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, GnR, Velvet Revolver (Pretty Much Anything Classic Rock!) etc... Would any of these be best suited for playing songs by those artists?

Does anyone own one of these and can you give me your opinion on it?

My amp is a yamaha GA10 which came with my pacifica in a starter set. I could probably do with upgrading it at some stage, but I only play in my bedroom, so don't need to play over live drums, so the volume is ok, but an amp with better quality sound might be needed to bring out the best of my LP when I get it? I don't know how people rate the sound quality of that amp?

Thanks,

yaffle
#2
guitar:perfect
amp: i would get a vox da15 i have one it souds great
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#5
i would get the epi les paul standard plus top. its great. down the road you can upgrade it's pickups and it will SCREAM. it really is a great guitar.

as for your amp, i STRONGLY suggest the vox AD30VT. it has a lot of effects and for your bedroom playing (non-gigging) it is a great amp and pairs with the epiphone lp pretty well.
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#6
You should know that the difference between the plain- and plus-top is just a sticker.
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#7
no its not just a sticker, lol. but I believe the plus top doesnt use very good wood for the top, but it sertaintly isnt a sticker.
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#8
Thanks guys,

wvguitarguy - The zakk wydle is more than what I was looking to spend.

Am I better getting the plain top than the plus top? Saving money and getting better wood on the top? Or is the plus top still better than the plain?

I will probably look to upgrading my amp in the summer when I get some more funds! I don't think it'll make too much of a difference in the mean time as I'm not that good...

Thanks Again,

yaffle
#9
the zakk wylde comes with emgs, u dont want emgs for classic rock (plus i think its kinda stupid to buy someone elses signature model...if u want to sound like them, sure, but to look exactly like them?)

i have an epi lp standard and i love it to death. just upgrade the bridge pickup, as its not the best.
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no its not just a sticker, lol. but I believe the plus top doesnt use very good wood for the top, but it sertaintly isnt a sticker.


How do you know? The paintjob on the Zakk Wylde signature-series is certainly a sticker. It looked like a sticker on one I saw, but I may have wrong.
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#12
the zakk might be but the ones with the wood grain are certainly not a sticker.
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#13
Id definetaly suggest the Epi LP standard, got mines a few months back and love it, i know ma amp isnt the best but i love it for bedroom playing, if ur on a small budget for an amp then the VOX DA15 is really good, if u can stretch to a bit more then still go for a VOX just get a slightly better 1 lol
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#14
Thanks Again People!

I'll go for the epiphone standard plain top I think! I rang up a guitar store and spoke to a guitar specialist and he said the only difference between the plain top and the plus is the stripy wood finish on top of the body which the plus has but not the plain.

I'll probably get a job in the summer (I'm in sixth form at the moment and trying to revise for exams in my spare time) to get some cash for a nice fancy Vox amp as thats what you seem to think best!

Keep Rockin',

Yaffle
#15
I have an Epi Standard, It plays and sounds great. I'll uprgrade the pickups eventually (SD Alnico II's I'm thinking), maybe a few other minor upgrades, and it'll be an amazing guitar.
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How do you know? The paintjob on the Zakk Wylde signature-series is certainly a sticker. It looked like a sticker on one I saw, but I may have wrong.

it isnt a sticker trust me i own1
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Quote by spootz
i would get the epi les paul standard plus top. its great. down the road you can upgrade it's pickups and it will SCREAM. it really is a great guitar.

as for your amp, i STRONGLY suggest the vox AD30VT. it has a lot of effects and for your bedroom playing (non-gigging) it is a great amp and pairs with the epiphone lp pretty well.


+1

BUT GET THE AMP BEFORE THE GUITAR.
If you play a Gibson Les Paul Custom Zakk Wylde Camo through a Squier SP10 or a ****tly little yamaha, It will sound a ****load worse than a Squier Affinity Strat through a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier or a Marshall Stack or whatever.
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#18
For what you play, for the amp get an Epiphone Valve Junior (or a Harley Benton GA5 if you don't care about having a brand name for almost exactly the same amp) and perhaps a boost like a BBE Green Screamer or if you can afford it a TS9 or something.

For the guitar, I've heard really good things about the Vintage actually. Give them a try, Chappers certainly likes them:

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#19
Stay away from the Vintages, they're pretty turd.


About the whole Plain top/Plus top thing. I say just go for the Plain top. It's the same guitar without the flame. If you can live without the flame, it's a steal.
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#20
Quote by wvguitarguy
get the Zakk Wyle model epi

the best Epi. I ever played... nicest neck
#21
the zakk wylde comes with emgs, u dont want emgs for classic rock (plus i think its kinda stupid to buy someone elses signature model...if u want to sound like them, sure, but to look exactly like them?)

but they are not active so it doesn't matter
#22
they are active. emg's are active pickups...
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For pictures of my gear click http://s464.photobucket.com/albums/rr8/spoutz/Guitar Gear/?albumview=grid nao!

-Matt

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#24
Quote by HomerSGR
How do you know? The paintjob on the Zakk Wylde signature-series is certainly a sticker. It looked like a sticker on one I saw, but I may have wrong.
That Wydle custom finishes are vinyl stickers.

The flame maple on the plus tops (both Standard and Custom) are in fact, actual flame maple. Similarly, the Plain top does use actual plain maple. The difference between these and the maple tops used on Gibson models though, is that the Epiphone ones are made with lower grade maple.

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they are active. emg's are active pickups...
No, no they are not. EMG is the brand. They do passive pickups as well as actives.

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but they are not active so it doesn't matter
Yes, yes it does matter. There is a much bigger difference between passive pickups than there is between different active pickups. If you think the particular model of passive pickup 'doesn't matter' then quite frankly, you're an incredibly naive idiot.

Quote by J rock
the best Epi. I ever played... nicest neck
All Epi's have the same neck. The Wylde is no exception and is nothing special, aside from the Camo edition having a maple fretboard instead of rosewood. It's cheap maple though, cheaper than the rosewood is, so it's nothing to get excited over.



As far as plain/plus/regular goes... Skip the Plain/Plus tops, get a regular Custom.

Basically, it goes like this:
Standard: average body wood, very low grade and slightly thinner maple cap.
Standard Plain/Plus: average body wood, low grade and regular thickness maple cap
Custom: better-than-average grade body wood, low grade and slightly thinner maple cap.
Custom Plus: better-than-average grade body wood, average grade and regular thick maple cap.

Tonally, the closest to a Gibson Les Paul is the Custom Plus. Of course, that also costs the most of those. Out of the remaining three, the Custom costs about the same as a Standard Plain/Plus does in most countries, but the body wood is better quality, at the cost of the maple cap being about a third slimmer. This means a slightly darker tone, but more sustain.

The other thing to take into account is the Custom comes with superior hardware too. The pickups are Korean-wound on the Custom instead of the Chinese-wound n the Standards (i.e better quality wire in the Custom's), and the rest of the hardware comes from a better quality cast, and uses a stronger, harder wearing alloy.


...So... sod the Plain/Plus tops, buy a regular Custom.