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So, lately I've been toying with the idea of going to university. I finished college last July and decided that rather than going to uni, I'd take this year out and see if I could get a job, since that would be the preferred outcome for me. Eight months(ish) down the line, my lack of employment is frustrating me and thus I think that this might be the best option, because most of the IT jobs I come across want someone educated to degree-level. I'd probably be studying software development, but that's not what this is about.

What I want to know is, what's the environment like? I don't care much for the social aspect - I'm aware of what goes on there

I'm just interested in finding out what the actual education part of it is like. College was wholly different to school, and I'm guessing that university would be more like college than school but, having never been, I'm not actually sure on that. Could anybody just give me a few ideas of what it's like?

Ta.

I realise that that isn't the best description of what I'm after, but I've got a headache that I can't be bothered taking something for, so you'll have to suffer with it
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Seriously, though, anyone?
#4
I don't think you can apply to university for this year now. But I might be wrong, just you might want to check that. I've sat in on seminars and lectures, and they're quite fun. However, they weren't IT lectures, which I think would probably be different. There's a lot of independent work in whatever you do, like 8 - 12 hours a week of lectures and the rest independent.
#5
In my opinion it's alot different to college. At college you have tutors and stuff, at uni you're on your own to be honest, you are responsible for yourself. Yes you could stay in bed all day and miss lectures (trust me, it's tempting sometimes) but then you'll just fail the year. Personally, I am still finding it hard to adjust between college and uni. Hope this helps.
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I don't think you can apply to university for this year now. But I might be wrong, just you might want to check that. I've sat in on seminars and lectures, and they're quite fun. However, they weren't IT lectures, which I think would probably be different. There's a lot of independent work in whatever you do, like 8 - 12 hours a week of lectures and the rest independent.


You can apply as late as July, I think. But the particular university I'm applying to also accepts new students for January starts if they make direct applications, which may be something I need to do.

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In my opinion it's alot different to college. At college you have tutors and stuff, at uni you're on your own to be honest, you are responsible for yourself. Yes you could stay in bed all day and miss lectures (trust me, it's tempting sometimes) but then you'll just fail the year. Personally, I am still finding it hard to adjust between college and uni. Hope this helps.


Sounds like the sort of thing I'd like. I can motivate myself and I like a free-ish environment for study. If I can work in my own time, I tend to work better.

Thank you both for you replies, you've been helpful.
#7
If you choose to go it's important that you understand that nobody will hold your hand. You may be able to get a degree by just absorbing information from lectures, but if you want a good degree you need to go that extra mile and read beyond what the lecturers tell you.

This can be put in to practice before you start attending lectures, and even before you start your first year. I can say from experience that a number of my friends at University who had little-to-no exposure to the more technical side of computers struggled a great deal. There is a plethora of lecture notes available on the internet that you could read, and even recorded lectures available via i-tunes U. These can also give you an idea of whether you want to study the subject at all - you probably won't understand much of it but that's not important. The important thing to ask yourself is "can I motivate myself to do this for three years?".

University is a far more informal learning environment and you will find that your relationship with lecturers differs greatly to your teachers in college. While some will have elevated opinions of themselves, most lecturers are down-to-earth and willing to offer you guidance if asked in proper time (not the night before work is due in ) - most of them don't want you to struggle and fail.

Hmm, most of that seems quite negative, I'll try for something positive!

Having taken a year out and come to the conclusion that a degree could be useful you're in a better position than most who just move on to University without thinking. There's really nothing quite like a spot of unemployment to motivate you to take steps to improve your life, is there?

If you decide to go make sure you have fun between working hard, there's truly nothing like celebrating with your friends when you've finished all of your work for the year and you have a long summer ahead of you
#8
depends on the course, i'd have thought. what are you thinking of doing? problem is, tuition fees etc. keep increasing, so you really want to make sure you aren't doing a mickey-mouse degree (for lack of a better term)...
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#9
Basically, if you go to a state school, like University of (Insert a State Here), you're looking at High School 2.

Sad, but true.

Everyone around you will seem like morons, and for the most part they are. Forget them. Find the smart ones and stick with them.

Study, study and study some more.

And make friends with your profs. They are the ones with the connections to actually help you out later. So you're kissing ass?

Screw it.

I'm back at school at age 29. I kiss plenty of ass. Proud of it.

I'm going to make it in this world. I crush "like, likes" beneath my feet as I walk the halls.
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#10
^^^ Don't worry, most of my qualifications are IT-based, so I have that background knowledge already. And I'll be pushing myself to make sure I get as much out of it as possible.

^^ HolycrapDaveIforgotyouventuredintothePit!

Yeah, it wouldn't be a Mickey Mouse degree. I'm looking to study something like business software development. And tuition fees don't bother me so much, because the payoff should far out-weigh them

^ Hmm. I take it you're in the US? Because our education system differes somewhat from yours.
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^^ HolycrapDaveIforgotyouventuredintothePit!

Yeah, it wouldn't be a Mickey Mouse degree. I'm looking to study something like business software development. And tuition fees don't bother me so much, because the payoff should far out-weigh them


just be careful... the payoff will only outweigh them if you do something you want to do, and (again) if it's not mickeymouse.

I have no idea about software etc., so I don't want to comment on your course in case I'm wrong.

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just be careful... the payoff will only outweigh them if you do something you want to do, and (again) if it's not mickeymouse.

I have no idea about software etc., so I don't want to comment on your course in case I'm wrong.



I've come across more programming jobs than I could possibly shake a stick at over the past few years, so that shouldn't be anything to worry about. And it's always been something that I've been interested in.
#13
Cheers for making this thread TS

I'm thinking of going to University at the end of my A2's, so it's good to get some advice now before i take the plunge



Anyone got any information and what Joint Honors degrees in History and Archeology are like?

EDIT: or JO degrees in general?
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Ignoring everything past the first post...go to uni. It's an amazing atmosphere, and soooo much better than college. There's every kind of person you could ever want to meet, and a society for everything you ever considered doing as a hobby. It's a really really good life. There are low points, and when you've got a lot of work it's so damn stressful but it's totally worth it in every respect.

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Anyone got any information and what Joint Honors degrees in History and Archeology are like?

EDIT: or JO degrees in general?
Prepare to have a lot of free time (history and archaeology have very very few lectures) but I have a lot of friends on history and archaeology and they all enjoy it.
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Cheers for making this thread TS

I'm thinking of going to University at the end of my A2's, so it's good to get some advice now before i take the plunge



Anyone got any information and what Joint Honors degrees in History and Archeology are like?

EDIT: or JO degrees in general?


I've heard of join honours degrees, but I haven't looked into them.

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I eat stress for breakfast
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Cheers for making this thread TS

I'm thinking of going to University at the end of my A2's, so it's good to get some advice now before i take the plunge



Anyone got any information and what Joint Honors degrees in History and Archeology are like?

EDIT: or JO degrees in general?

I'm hoping to do joint honours in French and Philosophy (after a gap year); it seems to be the thing to do if you're deeply interested in two subjects. History and Archaelogy go well together, so it seems like a good choice. However, apparently you go 3/4 of each degree so it's harder.
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I've come across more programming jobs than I could possibly shake a stick at over the past few years, so that shouldn't be anything to worry about. And it's always been something that I've been interested in.


sounds cool then.


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EDIT: or JO degrees in general?


just be careful it actually qualifies you to do both jobs... that's what i'd have thought.
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EDIT: or JO degrees in general?


Im not sure if this is true for all joint honours in all unis but heres my opinion,
Im doing a single honours in mathematics, and my friend in the flat oposite is doing joint honours Mathematics with German. Now, i can tell you this, he goes nowhere near as deep into the subject as i am. Like some modules ive done in my first semester, but he cant do till his second year. So yea, depends if you want the depth and specialisation in a subject or just the "top layer".
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Im not sure if this is true for all joint honours in all unis but heres my opinion,
Im doing a single honours in mathematics, and my friend in the flat oposite is doing joint honours Mathematics with German. Now, i can tell you this, he goes nowhere near as deep into the subject as i am. Like some modules ive done in my first semester, but he cant do till his second year. So yea, depends if you want the depth and specialisation in a subject or just the "top layer".


Cheers for all the help

(that's to everyone who answered my question)

I guess i might just take a single history subject then.
But i think both will allow me to go into history teaching, as the Bristol Uni prospectus said that some have gone into teaching from the JO degree.

cheers again
#21
I didnt read It but I liked all the smilies. Go to University! or whatever you Brits like to call it. Oh you Brits.