#1
This summer, i'm gonna drop 2000 USD on a nice amp.
I had my heart set on a Ceriatone Overtone Special (Dumble Clone), but i'm not sure if I should get it anymore.
Well, this is how I thought of it:

Once I get the head for the Ceriatone, it'd cost about 1400 bucks, and I have to spend the rest of that on a cab. Plus, it's 50 watts, and i'm not sure if I really want that much.
But, local stores carry Bad Cat amps (around 20 watts), and budda Superdrives.
I know that the Ceriatone and the Budda/Bad Cats are totally different animals, but do you think it'd be smarter for me to get a prebuilt combo amp than to spend money on shipping and assembly fees for ceriatone? But, Ceriatone amps are handwired too, and the overtone special is apparantly like a blackface but with infinitely better overdrive.
Just something I thought of.
But, if I get a Budda/Black Cat, they are british voiced amps, and I already have a pretty good british voiced amp (peavey classic 50).
Just at a crossroads sort of. Could someone help me out?
More amp suggestions would be nice too.
I'm looking for something for cleans to mid gain (maybe santana or old clapton at the most).
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
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#2
Go play the Bad Cats/Buddas and whatever. If you absolutely love them, then go for it. Otherwise go for the Ceriatone.

Just my opinion
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#3
Alright, that's what I was thinking.
Badcats and Buddas have alot of good feedback on them.
Plus, a local store has a used Superdrive 30 for like 1400, and I could spend that remaining cash on a nice LP styled guitar.
But, the sounds that i've heard online of the overtone are orgasmic.
But, i'll go play them.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#4
Have you still not come to a final decision darkarbiter?

You probably know my postion by now - Budda Superdrive, no contest - but the Ceriatone isn't exactly shabby in the tone department...

Seriously, if this is going to be an 'amp for life', I wouldn't go for a 50 watter. A 15-30W amp is ideal for almost all purposes, so that's the Superdrive 15 or Bad Cat. A Dumble clone would indeed suit your styles to a tee, but there's always prebuilt ones like the Fuchs Overdrive Supreme, which is available in a variety of combo formats. I think they're pricey though.
#5
Nope, no final decision .
If i'm dropping 2 grand on amp, I want to make darn sure that it's gonna be right for me.
Plus, other members may have an amp recommendation that i've never heard of before, and would be perfect for me.
Most of the bad cats at my local store are between 15 and 20 watts, and they only have the 30 watt superdrive.
I've heard so many great clips on the overtone though, and having a faithful clone of a legendary, rare amp is kind of cool.
Any more opinions? I'm gonna try out the ones I can, and listen to more ceriatone clips. I've been asking alot about the overtone on the ceriatone forums, and looks like everyone who owned one is very happy.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#7
Quote by slatsmania
Get the Swart Atomic Space Tone!

Totally kick-ass amplifier. Really.


I'm glad you posted a recommendation, slats. It's nice to have an opinion from a veteran player.

That looks like an awesome amp!
I'm listening to sound clips now.

See, this is why I ask for recommendations.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#8
Quote by slatsmania
Get the Swart Atomic Space Tone!

Totally kick-ass amplifier. Really.

+1 I wish i could afford one of those, they are THE SEX!!!
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#9
Don't forget the Metasonix G-1000, better known as the...

Gotta love their promotional literature and sense of humour, if nothing else:

The G-1000 consists of two totally independent amplifiers, with very different preamp sections. One channel is called the HAPPY channel. The other is called the ANGRY channel.

For damn good reason. One sucks your face, the other gnaws your foreskin off.
#10
Quote by kyle62
Don't forget the Metasonix G-1000, better known as the...

Gotta love their promotional literature and sense of humour, if nothing else:


Well, seeing as this amp will be used around a very sheltered Christian community (atleast until I get out of my town and join bands), I don't think that amp will fly well.
But, I am just drooling over pics of that Swart amp.
looks 100% all tube, even the rectifier and trem/reverb.
I'm not a trem fan, but i'll probably become one if I end up getting this.
It's only 30 pounds it looks like, which would be perfect for jamming with people.
My 60+ pound peavey classic is annoying to cart around.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#11
I played the Swart at the NY Amp show last year. For a while. In fact, they had to escort me out. It's an awesome amp. A beefed up Fender Deluxe Reverb. Beautiful cleans, tremolo and reverb that words cannot adequately describe, and a genuinely ballsy overdrive that is rich, thick, and dynamic. It's a very complete amp in a compact package.
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#12
I think I may just get that swart.
How long do you think it'd stay clean for?
I'd probably mic it up for bigger gigs (once I get into them).
Could you give some artist's tones which it could crank out slats? (not that I want to copy a certain artist, I just want to know what kind of tones it could get).
I checked out some of the clips with strats and stuff, but it had alot of trem going on.
Plus, cheap computer speakers probably can't capture it's tone very well, so i'd like some feedback from someone who tried it out in real life.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#13
Quote by kyle62
Don't forget the Metasonix G-1000, better known as the...

Gotta love their promotional literature and sense of humour, if nothing else:

Wow, thats ****ing awesome.
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#14
It's got a decent amount of headroom, and one of the cool things about it is that you can throw in 6L6's if you need more. At that point, it's probably like a 30-40W amp.

I'm not great at matching artists to a tone. I'd consider it to be a mid-gain, classic rock amp. No flabbiness, though. Nice and tight, well defined. It'll take pedals like a champ, too.
You Don't Need a halfstack.

You Don't Need 100W.

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i love you slats.
#15
The ODS doesn't need to cranked; it sounds just as good at bedroom level. The Dumble sound consists of an overdriven preamp, but very clean poweramp. Hence most ODS's being 100w.
#16
^Yeah, that's what i've heard.
I think it's still a tossup between the Swart and the Ceriatone.
The swart, with it's all tubeyness, reverb, and trem, along with the lower wattage and portability advantages looks like a very good choice for me. But, the ceriatone does capture that dumble tone, which I quite like.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator