#1
Just curious I meet a lot of guys in the studios that are smoking shredders. But can't hold a candle to the session guys that can play melodic phrasing. Does a true shredder even take the time to learn decent phrasing. Just curious.
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#2
To me, shredding is just speed playing. I believe that shredding can be very melodic. I like John Petrucci for example, I think he's a shredder, yet has melody. Another of my favourites is Gus G. (Firewind, Dream Evil) who 'shreds' yet maintains melody.
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#3
I think real shred requires decent phrasing, but alot of players just focus on speed.
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a decent "shredder" is a guitarist who can shred not as an answer to everything but just as another possibility to broadening his/her horizons of creativity, such as some people choose to learn jazz, learning "shred" can be used for the exact same purpous(?)

and....SHREDDERZ GOT'Z THE MAD SKILLZ WITH THE LADIES!
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Thanks Sometimes I just see players and all theyr'e concerned about is speed. Then if you slow them down it sounds pretty bad.
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Think about having a massive wank, well its like that for guitar skills

I think its the ability for some one to be able to play a freaking fast riff (think thrash metal) or crazy fast solo (malmsteen) but a GOOD shredd is having that skill and still being able to write songs with good melodys that arnt 1 billion BPM, satch, petrucci etc




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Just curious I meet a lot of guys in the studios that are smoking shredders. But can't hold a candle to the session guys that can play melodic phrasing. Does a true shredder even take the time to learn decent phrasing. Just curious.


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I think real shred requires decent phrasing, but alot of players just focus on speed.


Agreed: I can think of some players like Kerry King (at least his early lead work) and a lot of new players that just play fast and think that's fine. In some cases, I must admit, it fits in well enough.

HOWEVER, like other people have said on here, just running scales (or random notes) at the speed of sound is bogus. A solo, when slowed down, should still sound good; after all, if you're composing a solo you certainly don't attack it as fast as you can without forethought!
#10
Shredding is nto a genre or a style of playing. It's just a general compliment back in the 80's for a good player. IE "EVH can shred" or "Warren DeMartini was a shreddin' player"
#11
Shredding is when you take a piece of paper and slice it up instead of littering.
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Shredding is when you take a piece of paper and slice it up instead of littering.


Wow...

Your humor fails.
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#13
Wow i really liked George Lynch...he sounded great. i could listen to that more often! Gonna look for more now..any shredders like him? with melody?
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#14
I've actually found ways to use it as a compliment and a disrespect, based on how I say it. My friends have actually picked up on it, it's funny. I think how they dissected it was that if I call someone a "shredder" I'm saying they just care about speed, but if the player "shreds" or is "shredding" or the like, I'm saying he's making that guitar his bitch.

Hell, I just said "back to the guy who shreds, already" because they're showing some footage off a SRV DVD compilation on public TV, but of course that means 10 minute "give us your money" breaks."
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Shredding is nto a genre or a style of playing. It's just a general compliment back in the 80's for a good player. IE "EVH can shred" or "Warren DeMartini was a shreddin' player"

You're the first person besides myself to mention Warren on this site that I've seen.
He's one of my fave guitarists.
#16
Slow playing will show many more mistakes than fast playing that is the ground rule.
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#17
i honestly don't know what that word emans anymore, I used it as a compliment, now i use it dfor everything.

"Woah he can shred"

"He can even shred piano"

"He can shred English course work"

"Thats a shred pair of shoes"

funny how words mutate...
#18
Read 'The Art of Shredding' by Sun Tzu Darrell. Then you'll understand.





A lot of people nowadays group shredding with playing really fast with no feel or phrasing whatsoever.

I feel that actual shred guitar requires unique phrasing as well as speed and melody.
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i honestly don't know what that word emans anymore, I used it as a compliment, now i use it dfor everything.

"Woah he can shred"

"He can even shred piano"

"He can shred English course work"

"Thats a shred pair of shoes"

funny how words mutate...


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that was great, thanks for sharing that


No problem dude, actually FYI that small clip is what made me fall in love with Lynch's music, style, technique and so on.
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