#1
I was just wondering if there is a trade off for adding a J-pup in the bridge position. I read somewhere that it takes away from the tone, even if its rolled off. wasnt really a good source however

Your thoughts?
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#2
The only thing i could think of was pajamas, but that's not very relevant at all now is it.
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#3
I've never heard that before, and frankly, I can't imagine a solo'd P-pickup on a PJ bass sounds descernably different than a same-spec'd bass with just a P-pickup. Frankly, I don't believe the extra routing for the pickup itself would change your tone to the point of it being unacceptable, especially considering the tonal flexibility you're awarded.
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#5
I own an active P/J bass and the P solo'd is exactly the same as a normal P, no question.
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#7
i love P/J configured basses, mainly for the J pickup. i like to just use that one pick up for a neat sort of warbly sound.
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#8
On a similar note, I have a friend who can tell what types of batteries are in effects pedals by how the batteries color the tone. Is the guy for real or just good at guessing?

EDIT: My thoughts on the actual topic: there's probably little difference. That guy I mentioned above could probably tell the difference, but not the normal music lover listening to your music.
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#9
Apparently the contents of 9V batteries are totally different, and I've seen Roland batteries made especially for instruments. I forget what the contents are, though.
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#10
there would be less wood, due to the necessary routering... but one of those bass sustainer things would make up for it. you know, screw on to the headstock
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#11
Personally, I can't see the wood routed out for a J p'up making that much of a difference in sustain. Then again, I can't tell the difference in between batteries in effects pedals.
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#12
I think it's rather bull, telling the batteries in effects pedals. If you have it plugged into your wall, can he tell which electric company you use?

I don't see the wood routing to fit the J pup would have a huge effect on sustain. Doubtless it will- less mass leads to less sustain- but I don't think it'll be anything to fret about.

And yes, those basses just sound awesome. Classic P punch with some J cutting with the bridge pup. Heck yes.
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#13
I had to cut a slot for the J pup to go into my BCR; and as the body's about 2" thick, and tho I took about 1/2" out, it made no discenible difference. Maybe if you'd got something with a Kate Moss/balsa body, it might be an issue...

FWIW, I prefer cheapo Panasonic batteries in my wah pedal. It sounds 'mellower' with them. Tesco Value ones will do at a pinch! You'd have to have a truly encyclopaedic knowledge of pedals to be able to just name the battery brand straight off tho. Surely?
#16
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I think it's rather bull, telling the batteries in effects pedals. If you have it plugged into your wall, can he tell which electric company you use?

Oh, but sure, the different chemical structure of the batteries can definitely colour the tone of analogue effects. You can probably tell the difference between adaptors, but it just so happens that adaptors like that do not vary in structure as much as the batteries do.

For digital effects, there's no difference. It's either on or off. Or, a combination of on and off very quickly. That's why digital kicks ass. However, when using a lesser-powered adaptor on a digital effect, you can have a weaker output - my micro POG requires a 9.6V adaptor, and using a straight 9V results in an octaver that can get "confused easier" and sounds much more wobbly than with the proper adaptor.
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#17
chemical structure would have nothing to do with it, its the output which matters

EDIT: instead of starting a new thread, ill ask it here. Is the bass tone in this song the P-bass tone? [or one of them?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10C68Gzd5GM

yeah, its the same song from the other thread

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#18
Yeah, that's a P-Bass tone, but it's quite dark. it's a P-Bass with some EQing done to the treble.
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#19
mucho thanks

Ive been falling in love with PBasses lately
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#20
Actually, upon listening to it more, I think he's playing the Precision he recorded with. A P-Bass isn't THAT laboured.

Keep in mind, though, that if that bass wasn't at the front of the mix, you'd barely hear it.
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#22
With my semi-limited experience with PJ basses, the combination of the P and J pickups give a very solid "modern" tone that has some grunt to it as well as some clarity.
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#23
i used to have an old 5 string samick that had an active P/J configuration.. like i mentioned before i always just used the Jazz pickup while playing with an EQ pedal. it was far from a practical tone but i loved it anyway.

i have an ibanez SR505 which has 2 active soapbar bartolinis in it.. its just not the same..

if i could find a good bass with a P/j setup i'd straight up trade for it anyday.
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#24
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With my semi-limited experience with PJ basses, the combination of the P and J pickups give a very solid "modern" tone that has some grunt to it as well as some clarity.


That's a good approximation. I often watch bassists on tv shows like Later with Jools Holland, and the guys are standing posing with $5000 2xHB customs making nice noises, and can't help thinking that a good PJ would be just a bit more...rock'n'roll!?!

It's like the Chuck Norris of bass.
#25
question about the wiring

are both the P and J single coils or are they both split? I dont see how If the P was split and the J was single would work, b/c theres nothing to cancel the hum. [not sure if i have my physics right, feel free to blast]
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#26
On mine, there's a pup selector switch. Just one, the other, or both. There's also a series/parallel switch for the P, because it's a humbucker, as all P-types are.
Some modes are a little noisier, but as mine has Lace Sensors, I have to be standing near a TV to notice much.