#1
I really wanna try out the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Half Stack but there isnt a music store near where i live that has one. I currently have the Line 6 Spider 3 75 watt amp and the metal amp model is based on that amp. Does anyone know where I might find one and how much they cost?
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uh your best bet to find one would be to either go to the nearest guitar center and ask if they can order them or go onto the mesa website and search for dealers closest to you...and the half stacks run somewhere around $2500 +...they are expensive but damn are they nice
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uh your best bet to find one would be to either go to the nearest guitar center and ask if they can order them or go onto the mesa website and search for dealers closest to you...and the half stacks run somewhere around $2500 +...they are expensive but damn are they nice

I don't think GC carries Mesa...if they have one its probably used.
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my GC has a s hitload of mesas ^
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sam ash might carry mesa.
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I don't think GC carries Mesa...if they have one its probably used.


Not every GC location is authorized to carry Mesa. Go to Mesa's site and use the dealer locator feature.
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if you want to go the cheap way of getting a mesa, do what i'm working on doing..buy the head from mesa which only runs somewhere arounf $1300 i do believe, then go to musicians friend and buy a B-52 cab they have with celestion vintage 30's (same speakers as in a mesa cab) for $600..and lo and behold you save aound $500 by not paying to have the mesa name on your cab
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#10
^^awesome idea
plus you could like buy the mesa logo and stick it on their
than it would be saving 500 bucks for like EXACTLY the same thing
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than it would be saving 500 bucks for like EXACTLY the same thing

No. I'm not a fan of Mesa, at all, but they build their equipment very well. Much better thatn B-52, that's for sure.
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Well if you currently have a spider 3 the mesa boogie will be so much better you will love the mesa boogie.
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No. I'm not a fan of Mesa, at all, but they build their equipment very well. Much better thatn B-52, that's for sure.

+1, a B-52 is no substition for a Mesa cab, even with the same speakers.


And for prices, check my sig, it's not $1300 new, not even close...

I personally don't like the Single/Dual/Triple Rectos and believe there's many better amps for the price, however, Mesa's other similarly priced amps I love.
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No. I'm not a fan of Mesa, at all, but they build their equipment very well. Much better thatn B-52, that's for sure.


well i dont see what the difference would be if the speakers are the EXACT same..unless they use different wires...in that cause you could still get the wiring in the b 52 redone for cheaper anyway. you're just paying for a name with the mesa cab man, i'm telling you, i've researched this many times
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you're just paying for a name with the mesa cab man, i'm telling you, i've researched this many times

No you're not and you obviously didn't research very well.

The Mesa is undoubtably put together better, most likely has different dimensions for a better sound, the woods and parts used are higher quality and the overall attention to detail is greater.
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#16
Mesa cabs aren't build out of particle board!

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I've heard good things about Orange/VHT cabs too...
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I've heard good things about Orange/VHT cabs too...



That is because they don't make their cabs in china out of concentrated shit!
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I've heard good things about Orange/VHT cabs too...

Never tried an Orange cab cause I've never been in a store that sells orange, but...

VHT Fat Bottom...
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#20
Yeah, boutique cabs are awesome. BTW, MatrixClaw, get your ass on AIM.
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well i dont see what the difference would be if the speakers are the EXACT same..unless they use different wires...in that cause you could still get the wiring in the b 52 redone for cheaper anyway. you're just paying for a name with the mesa cab man, i'm telling you, i've researched this many times

obviously you didnt do any research. B-52 probably *I'm not claiming to have done research* uses chinaman v30's, where as mesa uses made in england v30's. You really cant lose quality by how you wire your speakers, unless you use like, lead or something as conducting wire. Mesa will have better craftsmanship, wood quality, and most likely, as matrix mentioned, a better design.
Quite simply, i'd go with avatar over b-52 anyways.
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obviously you didnt do any research. B-52 probably *I'm not claiming to have done research* uses chinaman v30's, where as mesa uses made in england v30's. You really cant lose quality by how you wire your speakers, unless you use like, lead or something as conducting wire. Mesa will have better craftsmanship, wood quality, and most likely, as matrix mentioned, a better design.
Quite simply, i'd go with avatar over b-52 anyways.


Yeah, I forgot all about those Chinese speakers. The only thing that should be made in China is Chinese people...
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#23
I have a B-52 AT-412 cabinet, that I got for a mere $160.
It was possibly the best $160 I have ever spent, but to compare the cabinet to a Mesa cabinet is just madness. Even if you are paying for a name (which you always are, even if slightly), it could still never justify the price difference.

But on the same account, the B-52 is a workhorse of a cabinet and it sure can take some abuse! I love mine. Probably the best cabinet you could get until you start to reach the $700+ range.
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/B52-ST412-280W-4x12-Guitar-Cabinet-with-Celestion-Vintage-30s?sku=602079

this would be the cab i'm talking about here...where as i didnt take into account that the wood quality would be a big difference in sound, i assumed most of the tone came from the 6L6 tubes in the mesa head, and i also wasn't aware of celestion making vintage 30's in china and england..so that was my bad..but i still don't think that cab will make a huge difference in the tone at all
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/B52-ST412-280W-4x12-Guitar-Cabinet-with-Celestion-Vintage-30s?sku=602079

this would be the cab i'm talking about here...where as i didnt take into account that the wood quality would be a big difference in sound, i assumed most of the tone came from the 6L6 tubes in the mesa head, and i also wasn't aware of celestion making vintage 30's in china and england..so that was my bad..but i still don't think that cab will make a huge difference in the tone at all


I though we were talking about the cheaper B-52 cab. But, there are 2 big holes in your argument. For one, saying that a cab doesn't make a difference in tone shows just how ignorant you are about this subject. You don't even own one, so therefore your opinion is null. Also, I can get a Mesa cab used for 400 bucks. No tax, and I might even be able to talk the guy down to 375.
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/B52-ST412-280W-4x12-Guitar-Cabinet-with-Celestion-Vintage-30s?sku=602079

this would be the cab i'm talking about here...where as i didnt take into account that the wood quality would be a big difference in sound, i assumed most of the tone came from the 6L6 tubes in the mesa head, and i also wasn't aware of celestion making vintage 30's in china and england..so that was my bad..but i still don't think that cab will make a huge difference in the tone at all

cab makes a big difference man. you can't really understand how much until you have multiple cabs to A/B thru. The cab combined with the speaker can make an amp darker/brighter, harsher/smoother, boomy/thin, etc... People tend to underestimate how important the actual cab is, but after trying quite a few cabs for extended periods, I can tell you it's very important. A good versus crappy cab can change your sound pretty dramatically. Things like quality of the plywood, where it's mostly glue and filler or actual wood, how thick, baffling design and material, cab dimensions, cab porting design, hardware and wiring, etc..., all make a difference.

The Celestion speakers are all made in China now however. Only the Heritage series are made in England AFAIK. However, if the cabinet didn't make a big difference compared to the speaker, you could use a cardboard box and get decent results, which isn't the case.
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cab makes a big difference man. you can't really understand how much until you have multiple cabs to A/B thru. The cab combined with the speaker can make an amp darker/brighter, harsher/smoother, boomy/thin, etc... People tend to underestimate how important the actual cab is, but after trying quite a few cabs for extended periods, I can tell you it's very important. A good versus crappy cab can change your sound pretty dramatically. Things like quality of the plywood, where it's mostly glue and filler or actual wood, how thick, baffling design and material, cab dimensions, cab porting design, hardware and wiring, etc..., all make a difference.

The Celestion speakers are all made in China now however. Only the Heritage series are made in England AFAIK. However, if the cabinet didn't make a big difference compared to the speaker, you could use a cardboard box and get decent results, which isn't the case.


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Yeah, I forgot all about those Chinese speakers. The only thing that should be made in China is Chinese people...

hey watch it, there's plenty of chinese people here. ( )

furthermore, china manufactures so much more than cheap music gear. without their products being brought over here, we'd be paying arms and legs for just about anything.
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furthermore, china manufactures so much more than cheap music gear. without their products being brought over here, we'd be paying arms and legs for just about anything.

that's a blessing and a curse though. Ever see the list of recalled infant and toddler toys from China, due to poisons like lead and other toxins? That list alone is HUGE.
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hey watch it, there's plenty of chinese people here. ( )

furthermore, china manufactures so much more than cheap music gear. without their products being brought over here, we'd be paying arms and legs for just about anything.



I am not trying to be racist, but China's history of human rights violations and assorted problems have made me sick. You remember the tainted cough syrup with antifreze in it because they were cutting costs? And the lead painted toys that made some kids pretty sick? Those came straight from China. And yeah, China manufactures more than just cheap music gear, they manufacture most of the crap in this world. But, considering that Gas is about $3.40 a gallon, things made here in the US would be just as cheap. Because remember, you gotta bring the stuff into the US.
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I though we were talking about the cheaper B-52 cab. But, there are 2 big holes in your argument. For one, saying that a cab doesn't make a difference in tone shows just how ignorant you are about this subject. You don't even own one, so therefore your opinion is null. Also, I can get a Mesa cab used for 400 bucks. No tax, and I might even be able to talk the guy down to 375.


Well for the 2 big holes in my argument, i may not own a cab but that doesn't mean i havent played on various cabs...i have for instants play on a mesa dual recitifier with the mesa cab, peavey vavle king stack, a few orange amps, and a handfull of marshall..so before you go saying my opinion is null, i know somewhat of what i'm talking about..just because i'm not big on how cabs work full doesn't mean i'm ignorant...and if you can get a mesa cab for 400 doesn't mean everyone can, you're getting it used from a guy, that guy isn't an option for everyone who wants a mesa cab

and Erock 503 thanks for the info on cabs
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that's a blessing and a curse though. Ever see the list of recalled infant and toddler toys from China, due to poisons like lead and other toxins? That list alone is HUGE.

yeah true, i mean china's far from perfect haha.
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I am not trying to be racist, but China's history of human rights violations and assorted problems have made me sick. You remember the tainted cough syrup with antifreze in it because they were cutting costs? And the lead painted toys that made some kids pretty sick? Those came straight from China. And yeah, China manufactures more than just cheap music gear, they manufacture most of the crap in this world. But, considering that Gas is about $3.40 a gallon, things made here in the US would be just as cheap. Because remember, you gotta bring the stuff into the US.

just saying, "only things that should be made in china are chinese people" is kinda racist, that's all.
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just saying, "only things that should be made in china are chinese people" is kinda racist, that's all.


Not really, racism is discrimination based on race - that's discrimination based on the country of origin of products. He's got nothing against the chinese people themselves (thus the "...are chinese people").
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I have a B-52 AT-412 cabinet, that I got for a mere $160.
It was possibly the best $160 I have ever spent, but to compare the cabinet to a Mesa cabinet is just madness. Even if you are paying for a name (which you always are, even if slightly), it could still never justify the price difference.

But on the same account, the B-52 is a workhorse of a cabinet and it sure can take some abuse! I love mine. Probably the best cabinet you could get until you start to reach the $700+ range.


If you're buying the cab because of the low price then sure it's great. Me on the other hand, I have the LG412 and loaded it with Eminence legend speakers. The cab is very poorly designed. Huge gap in the back as an airport, which also lets all your low end out the back giving you extremely low bass projection.

Sure, if I needed a cab really bad, for less than $300 B-52 isn't bad. If you're looking for a professional tone, it needs to be replaced.

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Not really, racism is discrimination based on race - that's discrimination based on the country of origin of products. He's got nothing against the chinese people themselves (thus the "...are chinese people").

eh, man i hate to keep it going, but i took it in a different way (as if chinese people were mass produced yada yada).
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eh, man i hate to keep it going, but i took it in a different way (as if chinese people were mass produced yada yada).

they are


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#37
still? god damn. oh well, gotta love communism somehow.
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still? god damn. oh well, gotta love communism somehow.

that reminds me of my history class last thursday.
Our teacher asked if we really think that korea or china would acutally launch a nuke at anyone.
And i said.
OF COURSE THEY WOULD! THEY'RE COMMIES!
He was disapointed with my response, but the class liked it.
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#39
that's exactly what my history teacher would say.
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