#1
Hey, I'm looking for a valve amp that I can use for gigging small/medium venues for up to around £350. I play mainly indie stuff like Libertines and View etc, the heaviest stuff I'd play would prolly be like QOTSA. The Laney VC30 seems an obvious choice but I've heard that it has problem with reliability, has anyone got any suggestions?
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#2
Definitely VC30. QOTSA would be very doable with a great Fuzz pedal like a Roger Mayer Classic/Axis. The gain on the amp would handle the Indie stuff nicely.

I read alot about reliability also, but nothing doing for me, it's fine, also when I opened it up one time I noticed the amp has 5 fuses all told, so most of the breaking of the amp is very likely to be down to a fuse blowing, which is a 10p fix.

Nothing to worry about, and it sounds great. Comes to life with a speaker swap also.
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#4
Thx for the quick reply, I think VC30 is what I'm gonna end up getting; I was just seeing whether there is any alternative which I'm over-looking, I've been looking at SC40C but doesn't seem to have great reviews.
#5
Also, check out the soundclips in my profile for an example of the variety the VC30 can pull off, the higher gain ones use boost pedals, but yeah. Also, don't forget there's a new version out which looks nicer.
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#6
IMO the SCs are pretty good. My bands other guitarist is pickin one up, i deffinately reccomend you try one before making your decision. Theyre moderner, pack a bit more gain, have a nice crunch on the clean channel.
Depends what you're into.
Only think is the reverb+speaker are terrible.

But the VCs speakers a bit meh too.
#7
Yeh I'll prolly go to my local music shop and see what they're like, just wanted to get a rough view of which amps I should look at before I did.
#8
The VCs speaker isn't nearly as bad as you make out becky.

The G12H destroys it but I'd rather the 7080 than an MG speaker (DSL401 anybody?).
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#9
What about the Orange Tiny Terror?
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#11
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^ £300 for the head alone...


I'm sure you could find a used 1x12 for 50GBP
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#12
Pfft, loaded with a speaker from hell maybe, I strongly doubt you will find ANYTHING worth it.
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#13
Thx for the clips MrCarrot they were good; I'm gonna get the the VC30 (as I'm too lazy to spend time treckin round trying amps out). Now just a matter of getting the money
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#14
blackheart could work great for that price
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#15
Quote by MrCarrot
The VCs speaker isn't nearly as bad as you make out becky.

The G12H destroys it but I'd rather the 7080 than an MG speaker (DSL401 anybody?).


Not saying its terrible, it pisses over the SCs speaker, it does the job, its just theres deffinatley room for improvement.

Also, lol@ the laney fund.
#16
Based on sound clips:

I'd say at least look at this. Free shipping too.

£295 too.

I'm getting one, seems like a great deal. It's best at mid-gain I hear, so it seems fine for your styles.
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#17
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(DSL401 anybody?).

Underrated on here these days, I notice how mentions of the VC30 being unreliable are swept away straight away, but most people still think the DSL401 overheats all the time. 2003 came and went.

But yeah, another angry rant from someone who loves his DSL401. IDK about you but I could not justify an extra 300-400 quid for a DSL50 and cabinet.
#18
VC30 all the way.
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#19
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Underrated on here these days, I notice how mentions of the VC30 being unreliable are swept away straight away, but most people still think the DSL401 overheats all the time. 2003 came and went.

But yeah, another angry rant from someone who loves his DSL401. IDK about you but I could not justify an extra 300-400 quid for a DSL50 and cabinet.


You shouldve checked the first laney thread, everyone was all, OHNOEZ MY VC BROKEZ. Lolz.

Random gibberish from somone that lovesish there VC30. But I like them better than I liked the DSL401, and the VK, and LC30, i tried them all out at around the same time, came out with the VC. Recently, I havent heard much else of VCs going. And since theyve just made a few touch ups to them, i'd think they would have corrected the problems. But as for me, ive gigged mine a number of times, cranked it a zillion times. And not even a fuse has gone.
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#20
Quote by beckyjc
You shouldve checked the first laney thread, everyone was all, OHNOEZ MY VC BROKEZ. Lolz.

Random gibberish from somone that lovesish there VC30.

I don't think VC30's and DSL401's are very good for comparison anyhow, each are good for different genres and whatnot. I know I don't play much indie. Not much meaning none
#21
I dont play much indie. It's a bit too yawn.

I use mine more for blues, and jazz, and funk, and hard rock etc. All genres id think the DSL and VC were destined for.
#22
Quote by beckyjc
I dont play much indie. It's a bit too yawn.

I use mine more for blues, and jazz, and funk, and hard rock etc. All genres id think the DSL and VC were destined for.

I woulden't say so, the DSL is best at more modern rock sounds and lighter metal (decent metal IMO). Marshall don't go backwards with their amps... Okay not usually (VM) but the Plexi's, JCM800's, 900's and then 2000's have all been modern at time of release.
#23
Meh I dunno I really don't like the DSL401s. My VC30 will do the hard rock thing as my profile proves, and it does it pretty sublimely, yet all the times I've played the DSL401 it just doesn't work for me, too much lower-mid mud. Sure, I have a G12H in my Laney but that only bumps the cost upto £350, the DSL costs more than that to start off with...

Also, as it goes, I've heard a lot of reports of VC30s breaking but never DSL401s, but my VC30 is perfectly fine :/ Way of the toss I guess, but when reading reviews it's very easy to focus on everything negative despite everything positive.
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#24
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Meh I dunno I really don't like the DSL401s. My VC30 will do the hard rock thing as my profile proves, and it does it pretty sublimely, yet all the times I've played the DSL401 it just doesn't work for me, too much lower-mid mud. Sure, I have a G12H in my Laney but that only bumps the cost upto £350, the DSL costs more than that to start off with...

Also, as it goes, I've heard a lot of reports of VC30s breaking but never DSL401s, but my VC30 is perfectly fine :/ Way of the toss I guess, but when reading reviews it's very easy to focus on everything negative despite everything positive.

I've had my DSL401 for about a year and a half, and back then on UG opinions were very different. After stating my interests and price range, I got many many responses telling me to go for the DSL401, and so I did. I am very happy with mine, although you must make sure you hear it cranked before you knock it as well I don't quite understand why everyone now thinks 401's are the anti-christ.

And yeah, when I am reading reviews, I often look for the bad points. And I remember reading the reviews of the 401 and seeing very few badpoints, just the rare 'mine was a pre-2003 model so can overheat' and sometimes 'the speaker could do with replacement/I replaced the speaker'.
#25
Yeah.

I think the issue with the DSL401 isn't that it sounds particularly bad, but the value for money issue. Now you can get the Laney or a Sound City - and those SCs sound fantastic for the money - for less which have great stock features. With the DSL you get the Marshall name, an MG speaker, Russian tubes...
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#26
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Yeah.

I think the issue with the DSL401 isn't that it sounds particularly bad, but the value for money issue. Now you can get the Laney or a Sound City - and those SCs sound fantastic for the money - for less which have great stock features. With the DSL you get the Marshall name, an MG speaker, Russian tubes...

I'd be careful what you say about the Russians here.. But yeah, fair point.
#28
Should I get a 212 or 112? How much heavier will the 212 be?
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