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#1
Tutorial here ----> http://members.cox.net/ampage/triggers.htm credit to nuthinbuttrubl8

Yup I'm building an electric drumset as the title suggests. I'll be converting Remo practice pads into triggers by putting a peizo element inside the practice pads.

Today i went to guitar center and got the practice pads, unfortunatly they didn't have the Alesis Trigger I/O which you plug the peizo's into. So i ordered that online. They did have the Remo Practice pads. Also radioshack didn't have any piezo's so ill have to order them online or something.


the practice pad


cutting the foam inside the practice pad to make the piezo sammich


foam cut with the hole for the wires from the piezo to go through. (took like an hour to cut 4 peices of foam in half )

Ill make more progress in the next week or so when i get the rest of the parts.
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Last edited by Vandals572 at Apr 14, 2008,
#2
wow. that's really cool
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#3
this will be cool. Although this isn't Ultimate-drum.com I think we should keep it around.
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#6
Awesome. How much do u think your gonna end up spending? I kno most electric kits cost a fair ampount of money, and i think this would be more fun if you need an electric kit for recording/quieter band practices.
#7
well the alesis trigger I/O is $150. The practice pads were $60 in total so thats $210 right there. then i figure like 30 more for the peizos and jacks.... then probably a crapload more for all the cables.

anyway glad to see everyone is so interested
yeah im a guitarist but i figured this would just be a fun build for a cost effective drumset
Quote by alkalineweeman
If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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#8
small update: the jack in the bottom of the practice pad


edit: the second hole is so air can get out (supposadly that reduces the risk of crackage)
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http://monstersvsaliens.bandcamp.com/
Last edited by Vandals572 at Apr 13, 2008,
#9
this is awsome man.
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#11
This is pretty awesome. Do you have an estimate for how much this project will end up costing?

EDIT: Ah, sorry, didn't see you already answered.
#12
I'm geussing around $260, all ready spent $210 and just have to get cables to connect the drums to the Alesis Trigger I/O (and peizo's but they are like 2 bucks)

edit: its cool i didn't really give an estimate anyway
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If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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#13
what are you going to do for the cymbals?
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#15
Quote by Vandals572
I'm geussing around $260, all ready spent $210 and just have to get cables to connect the drums to the Alesis Trigger I/O (and peizo's but they are like 2 bucks)

edit: its cool i didn't really give an estimate anyway

What are you doing for cymbals and the kick pedal?
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#16
nitroduck: I'm not really sure yet, I'm thinking of just a circular piece of plastic with a piezo underneath it, I'll have to experiment.

edit: my friend bought a double bass pedal and has a single bass pedal he doesn't need
Quote by alkalineweeman
If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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http://monstersvsaliens.bandcamp.com/
Last edited by Vandals572 at Apr 13, 2008,
#17
what about mounting all this? do you have a rack?
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#18
I'm just gonna attempt to make one out of 2x4's or something. It won't be the prettiest thing ever but it should work.
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#19
that's awesome dude!
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#21
No... a piezo picks up the vibration when you hit the drum. All of the piezos are plugged into a midi trigger (for example Alesis Trigger I/O) then with a program you choose which piezo triggers each sound. Piezos don't have a sound.
Quote by alkalineweeman
If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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http://monstersvsaliens.bandcamp.com/
#22
This sounds like it could be really cool.

Also kudos for using a bread knife to cut the foam. Classy.
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#23
Quote by Vandals572
No... a piezo picks up the vibration when you hit the drum. All of the piezos are plugged into a midi trigger (for example Alesis Trigger I/O) then with a program you choose which piezo triggers each sound. Piezos don't have a sound.


Ohhhhh sorry man i was confused

Yeah ok this looks awsome then
#24
would it be possible to use smoke alarm piezos

ive heard of people making acoustic guitar pickups out of them.

just a thought.
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#25
Quote by Nitroduck
would it be possible to use smoke alarm piezos

ive heard of people making acoustic guitar pickups out of them.

just a thought.


Yes i dont see why not. i made the piezo accoustic pickup..
#26
I am following this for sure. Would it be possible to get some sound clips when you are done.

Also, instead of 2x4's for the frame you may want to check out your local hardware store or Lowe's/Home Depot for some sort of metal or heavy plastic tubing. Like a plumber would use. That plaus a coat of primer and some black rattle cans you'd be set. My brother in law built a custom computer desk like that and it is slick as hell.

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#27
Yeah the smoke alarm thing would most likely work. I ordered the Piezos yesterday so they should be coming later this week.

And Death-Speak yeah ill check that out thanks for the idea.

Also sound clips will definitely be coming when its done
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If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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#28
Yeah, you CAN use the piezo as a trigger. Get Radio Shack, part # 273-073A. They are extremely easy to tear apart, because of the way they are built you can pop the bottom off with a pocket knife and gently remove the element. Opposed to the fire alarm where there's alpha rays to deal with and from what I understand the pieze is usually molded into the platic so it's harder to remove.

Anyways, if my podunk Radio Shack carries them, surely your's will. They cost about $1.69 if I remember correctly.
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#29
My Radioshack just sucks and didn't have any, thats why I had to order them

edit: anyone know if wooden circles with a peizo attached to the bottom would work as cymbals?
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Last edited by Vandals572 at Apr 14, 2008,
#30
It shouldn't matter what they are attached to as long as the piezo gets the vibration from the strike of the drumstick. I'm guessing wood will not transfer that vibration very well though. I'm probably wrong...

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#31
Hmm alright I'll try wood first and if it doesn't work I'll try something else...
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If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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#32
i've seen another thread like this on a different forum... the trigger was made from some old roto toms and a Vdrum replacement head (from another brand because the vdrum heads are expensive)
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#33
Quote by nuthinbuttrubl8
i've seen another thread like this on a different forum... the trigger was made from some old roto toms and a Vdrum replacement head (from another brand because the vdrum heads are expensive)

Do you remember how they made the cymbals?
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#34
here's a cool link i just found. the guy used a remo practice pad kit...

http://members.cox.net/ampage/triggers.htm
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#35
this sounds like a pretty cool build. i was actually thinking about building a similar thing for the drummer in my band... but alas, that would cost money which i dont have but o well i guess... anyways keep us updated, i wanna see how this turns out for when i build mine
#36
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Do you remember how they made the cymbals?



nah the guy only made one trigger... it wasnt a whole kit . I'm sure you could use any large plastic disk... frisbee perhaps?
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#37
Quote by nuthinbuttrubl8
here's a cool link i just found. the guy used a remo practice pad kit...

http://members.cox.net/ampage/triggers.htm


Thanks but I already know how I am building the drum triggers, I'm just not sure on the cymbals...

edit: haha a frisbee would be sweet, I'll have to try a bunch of things and see what works best
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If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


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#38
Quote by Vandals572
Thanks but I already know how I am building the drum triggers, I'm just not sure on the cymbals...

edit: haha a frisbee would be sweet, I'll have to try a bunch of things and see what works best


apparently so but i wanted to post it in case anyone wanted step by step information... sorry, this guy cheated and used cymbal triggers from a roland kit

I like my frisbee idea...

edit:

how about practice cymbal pads? ive seen them at guitar center... theyre rubber cymbal lookin' things...

edit again:

come to think of it, i bought a piezo transducer to try and make a pickup but I wasn't overly thrilled about the sound... looks like i'm gonna make a trigger
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Last edited by nuthinbuttrubl8 at Apr 14, 2008,
#39
why don't you just use another drum pad and change the midi sound
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#40
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why don't you just use another drum pad and change the midi sound

...?
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If by "clean" you mean "get a finger right up in there and do a good bit of spelunking" then i guess "at any given opportunity" is my answer.


mah hardcore band
http://monstersvsaliens.bandcamp.com/