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#1
Hey.

Can anyone recommend me any philosophy books?

I'm talking
  • The God Delusion - Dawkins
  • Sophie's World - Jostein Gaarder
  • The Age of Reason - Sartre
  • The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie


Anything like Hume, Mill and Descartes. I want to try and read heavy stuff, but also want easy to read things too. And they can be novels, plays, textbooks or treatises - anything.

Thanks in advance
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No Philosophy collection is complete without Descartes, Hume or John Locke

I'll go find the names of the ones I studied for my philosophy class for you, hang on ^^

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Simulacra and Similacrum. If you can actually get through it you're a better man than eye.
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Plato's 'Republic' and Nietzsche's 'Thus Spake Zarathustra'.

If you want some philosophical novels as well, try Robert M. Pirsig's 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' and the works of Herman Hesse.
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I have a book called "I am therefore I think" which asks and answers alot of philisophical questions, answered by modern day philosophers. A good read and pretty cheap too.
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Hey.

Can anyone recommend me any philosophy books?

I'm talking
  • The God Delusion - Dawkins
  • Sophie's World - Jostein Gaarder
  • The Age of Reason - Sartre
  • The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie


Anything like Hume, Mill and Descartes. I want to try and read heavy stuff, but also want easy to read things too. And they can be novels, plays, textbooks or treatises - anything.

Thanks in advance

That man is a fool. Seriously. Science is brilliant, his social ideas into how to treat religion is insulting.

Easy read, I'd recommend The Pig That Wants To Be Eaten Read reviews, fantastic book.

Aldous Huxley's Island is often a book that is over looked. It's a utipian novel with some clever ideas where you find similarities to the likes of Kant and Nietzsche (woah? yep, it's in there.)

I'd highly recommend Beyond Good and Evil, interesting outlook.

If you know what Philosophers you like, why not read up on them? Mill has got some good works out, just check him up and take your pick.

I'd stay away from all of Descartes work. Read up on it, laugh at him, continue.
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^ Surely reading the work of a fool is just as useful as reading the work of a genius if you're able to interpret it in the right way?
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Anything by Rene Descarte, David Hume, Immanuel Kant, Friedrich Nietzsche and John Stuart Mill. If you like Sartre, I must also insist that you read Nausea, if you already haven't.
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^ Surely reading the work of a fool is just as useful as reading the work of a genius if you're able to interpret it in the right way?

Don't get me wrong, he is bloody clever, and his science is good, but he looks down on religion so poorly it can cause more problems than good.

I'll write up my full reasoning why if you're interested, but only if you are, because I'm feeling lazy I don't mind though.
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Discourse on the Method and the Meditations by Descartes is pretty good and gives you a good understanding of skepticism.
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I wouldn't call the Satanic Verses philosophy. Try Plato's Republic, Rand's Atlas Shrugged etc

A lot of philosophy is bunk, thought up by academics who have no association with the outside world. They get more and more enwrapped in their own world and convinced on their ideas and theories. This is true in the case of Sigmund and Anna Freud, John Nash and Wilhelm Reich.
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I'm currently reading 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance', one of the best books I've ever read, both philosophy wise, and generally.

Highly recommended.
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"Freedom & Neurobiology: Reflections on Free Will, Language, and Political Power" by John R. Searle

Just read it, and it's quite good.
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Don't get me wrong, he is bloody clever, and his science is good, but he looks down on religion so poorly it can cause more problems than good.

I'll write up my full reasoning why if you're interested, but only if you are, because I'm feeling lazy I don't mind though.

Please could you?

And zero-hartman, that'd be really useful.
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Don't get me wrong, he is bloody clever, and his science is good, but he looks down on religion so poorly it can cause more problems than good.

I'll write up my full reasoning why if you're interested, but only if you are, because I'm feeling lazy I don't mind though.

He created a cool statement. That's reason enough to read him.

I would also recommend Bertrand Russell's Why I am Not a Christian. He's pretty much for cold hard empirical logic but explains the arguments for the existence of God well in a fairly humorous matter. I prefer him to Dawkins anyway :P

TS, are you studying philosophy?
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Please could you?

And zero-hartman, that'd be really useful.

The guy pretty much says the most harmful thing you can do to a child is to teach it religion. He wants to rid it from the Earth completely because he frowns upon extremists (Muslims must be the modern day Jews these days...).

Whilst that may sound all good and dandy to some, it's contradictory in a sense that any fundamentalism in any ideology can cause problems. I mean, being a national socialist wasn't joining a religion, but they did more harm done in two decades than any religious group in the world.

It's a poor way of looking at things. If he wants to rid the world of religion, he can fuck off.

It also preaches extreme intolerance, and that to me is bad. Just as bad as preaching against a race or sexuality group.

EDIT: Harmful against freedom of speech and liberty much?
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Don't even bother with Kant. It's not worth the effort to understand. If you like Descartes then try Marcus Aurelius. Read lots of Russell and Nietzsche because it's all great. If you want something modern then Alain de Botton is great (I've seen a lecture by him and it was awesome)
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He created a cool statement. That's reason enough to read him.

I would also recommend Bertrand Russell's Why I am Not a Christian. He's pretty much for cold hard empirical logic but explains the arguments for the existence of God well in a fairly humorous matter. I prefer him to Dawkins anyway :P

TS, are you studying philosophy?

Yeah, and I'm hoping to study it for university so want to do a ton of background reading in my gap year.

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The guy pretty much says the most harmful thing you can do to a child is to teach it religion. He wants to rid it from the Earth completely because he frowns upon extremists (Muslims must be the modern day Jews these days...).

Whilst that may sound all good and dandy to some, it's contradictory in a sense that any fundamentalism in any ideology can cause problems. I mean, being a national socialist wasn't joining a religion, but they did more harm done in two decades than any religious group in the world.

It's a poor way of looking at things. If he wants to rid the world of religion, he can fuck off.

It also preaches extreme intolerance, and that to me is bad. Just as bad as preaching against a race or sexuality group.

EDIT: Harmful against freedom of speech and liberty much?

I think people shouldn't be brought up with religion, but when they reach a certain age they should be allowed to choose. I know it doesn't seem tolerant, but I personally quite like him. And he does support freedom of speech, just he's drastically anti-religion.
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I think people shouldn't be brought up with religion, but when they reach a certain age they should be allowed to choose. I know it doesn't seem tolerant, but I personally quite like him. And he does support freedom of speech, just he's drastically anti-religion.

How is wanting to rid religion completely showing any signs of wanting freedom of speech?
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Seen as I'm doing a philosophy major at college..


PLato- Gorgias, The Symposium, The Laws, Euryphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo,

Aristotle- On Animals (science), On The Arts, Nichomachean Ethics, Metaphysics, Poetics, Categories,On Interpretation, Prior Analytics, Posterior Analytics, Topics,
On Sophistical Refutations.

Nietzsche- Ecce Homo, The Gay Science, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, On Nietzsche


Epicurus- The Principle Sayings, The Vatican Manuscriptions.

Anaximander- On Nature, Around the Earth, The Sphere

Anaximenes

Pythagoras

Hope this helps.....
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How is wanting to rid religion completely showing any signs of wanting freedom of speech?

I haven't read his stuff, but as far I'm concerned, freedom of speech goes hand-in-hand with freedom of though. Alot of Children are raised on religion from birth so they think it must be right and that its just a part of life. They never really get the opportunity to think for themselves, they just have it shoved down their throats.
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I haven't read his stuff, but as far I'm concerned, freedom of speech goes hand-in-hand with freedom of though. Alot of Children are raised on religion from birth so they think it must be right and that its just a part of life. They never really get the opportunity to think for themselves, they just have it shoved down their throats.

Naturally. All kids should be brought up being taught different religions so they understand other people, helping improve tolerance. I wouldn't raise my child on a religion mind.
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That man is a fool. Seriously. Science is brilliant, his social ideas into how to treat religion is insulting.

I'd stay away from all of Descartes work. Read up on it, laugh at him, continue.

+1 Well said.

And Dawkins is just another Ann Coulter, only he just studied Biology in college. Socially blind.
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+1 Well said.

And Dawkins is just another Ann Coulter, only he just studied Biology in college. Socially blind.

Ugh, I hate Ann Coulter so much
(she's made a big mistake in an 'article' of hers. (something about Hillary should divorce Bill so she could have a chance at the first president to be a divorcee (I guess she didn't know Reagan was divorced?)))

anyways, if you can read books with hard language, Siddhartha (Hermann Hesse) is a good one.
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Ugh, I hate Ann Coulter so much
(she's made a big mistake in an 'article' of hers. (something about Hillary should divorce Bill so she could have a chance at the first president to be a divorcee (I guess she didn't know Reagan was divorced?)))

anyways, if you can read books with hard language, Siddhartha (Hermann Hesse) is a good one.

You get the Times Union as well? Yes, I read that article. I have Siddhartha laying around the house but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
#33
Russell's 'The Problems of Philosophy' is a classic, and is brief.

Why anyone would subject themselves to Nietzsche and Sartre of their own free will is beyond me. Aha, free will...
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You get the Times Union as well? Yes, I read that article. I have Siddhartha laying around the house but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

I read it somewhere around the internet.

I borrowed some Buddhist books from my brother awhile ago. I wish I had the ability to read them. Most of the language used isn't of my 'type'.
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Anything by Richard Bach or Paul Cohelio .

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Voltaire - Candide.
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+1 To whoever said Ayn Rand, personally I think her ethics are pretty solid.
To everyone suggesting Nietzsche, I'm curious why; I wasn't much impressed when his philosophy was summarized to me as "do whatever you want," although I'm sure there's more to it.
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Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
by Douglas R. Hofstadter (its more on logic but its amazing)


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anything Voltaire
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A nice, short, amusing read is Candide by the wonderful Voltaire. It's a little breath of air from the general philosophical rants.

As far as others go, I cant help you more than what has already been said.. If you can find any work on Socrates (preferably not written directly by Plato), I'm sure you'll feel some sense of satisfaction afterwards.
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