Poll: Stalin vs Hitler?
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Stalin
89 47%
Hitler
101 53%
Voters: 190.
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#1
Who was worse, Stalin or Hitler? I'm not too sure myself, so I'm leaving it to the pit!

Discuss.
#3
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First tell me what you think.

I said I'm not sure, I've only learnt about Hitler in my history lessons so far
#4
They both did similar things but for different reasons. Hitler's ideology was far worse.
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#5
I think stalin, hitler seemed more like a puppet who gave speeches.
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#7
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)

Hitler persecuted and removed the Jews from Germany and authorised (meaning he only gave permission, it wasnt his idea) the mass murder of Jewish, homosexual and handicapped persons under his control. His policies also led to the deaths of approximately 58 million people (including the holocaust).

EDIT: It was Heinrich Himmler leader of the Shutztaffel (SS) who propsed the holocaust in his infamous speech where he outlined the "final solution".
#8
Quote by bassboy 999
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)

Hitler persecuted and removed the Jews from Germany and authorised (meaning he only gave permission, it wasnt his idea) the mass murder of Jewish, homosexual and handicapped persons under his control. His policies also led to the deaths of approximately 58 million people (including the holocaust).

Hitler gets my vote then.

EDIT: for being the wost! Geez! I just sounded like a right nazi O_o
#10
I'm not sure, it's hard to compare two really really insane people. Like asking would you rather kiss your brother or sister, there's no real answer there, well there might be for some people, probably most of the people who frequent the pit. Always smells of incest here.
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#11
Quote by Kensai
I think stalin, hitler seemed more like a puppet who gave speeches.

I'd argue to the contrary. Hitler was one of the few politicians that WASN'T a puppet. He was pulling most of the strings in Germany. He had authority in many areas of the government. I mean, he even had authority in military decisions.
#12
Quote by bassboy 999
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)

Hitler persecuted and removed the Jews from Germany and authorised (meaning he only gave permission, it wasnt his idea) the mass murder of Jewish, homosexual and handicapped persons under his control. His policies also led to the deaths of approximately 58 million people (including the holocaust).

EDIT: It was Heinrich Himmler leader of the Shutztaffel (SS) who propsed the holocaust in his infamous speech where he outlined the "final solution".


yeh. remember auschwitz? well sorry.
#13
Quote by bassboy 999
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)

Hitler persecuted and removed the Jews from Germany and authorised (meaning he only gave permission, it wasnt his idea) the mass murder of Jewish, homosexual and handicapped persons under his control. His policies also led to the deaths of approximately 58 million people (including the holocaust).

EDIT: It was Heinrich Himmler leader of the Shutztaffel (SS) who propsed the holocaust in his infamous speech where he outlined the "final solution".


Holy ****, I assumed Stalin had killed more people. Do those 58 million people include casualties from the war?
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#14
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Hitler gets my vote then.

EDIT: for being the wost! Geez! I just sounded like a right nazi O_o


But here's where the twist is. Historians argue that Stalin was worse because he killed his own russian people in the millions. The many millions more that died as a result of Hitler's actions are more indirect and so, there is some credence placed in his corner.

I agree with you, Hitler was worse than Stalin, but the choice isn't as obvious as it might seem, when comparing figures.
#15
Quote by bassboy 999
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)


ummm stalin killed some 21 million...

nd hitler didnt kill 58 million people

A in history =P
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#17
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But here's where the twist is. Historians argue that Stalin was worse because he killed his own russian people in the millions. The many millions more that died as a result of Hitler's actions are more indirect and so, there is some credence placed in his corner.

I agree with you, Hitler was worse than Stalin, but the choice isn't as obvious as it might seem, when comparing figures.

yeah, that would take a little revising. at the end of the day, you have to consider who* was killed over how many.

*his own people, that it.
#18
Quote by somedude01
Holy ****, I assumed Stalin had killed more people. Do those 58 million people include casualties from the war?

Yep, thats every person that died in the second world war (not including Stalin's 7 million. that happened before ww2)

They are all military personel of both sides and all civilan personel of both sides. Though irrelevant, I'd just like to direct you fellows towards a few things, if you have the time to read them.

Wiki - Unit 731

It's a Japanese special base in China. I see threads all the time called "i just lost my faith in humanity'. Well you haven't really until you know history.
#19
Quote by Archaon
I'd argue to the contrary. Hitler was one of the few politicians that WASN'T a puppet. He was pulling most of the strings in Germany. He had authority in many areas of the government. I mean, he even had authority in military decisions.


Why good sir, how would you like to settle this with a fistfight?
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#20
Hitler killed five/six million people just because they were jewish. Stalin killed also some millions (Don`t know how much) because they were "against" him. Most of the time they weren`t but ended up in a goelag (can be compared to Auswitz and Sobibor etc...) Hitler said that he will make a great land of Germany, economicaly it went better with Germany and Stalin just destroyed Russia/Sovjet-Unie. But both are pure evil so you decide. Look on sites like wikipedia, but on Wikipedia itselfs the information can be changed by a neo-nazi so watch out.
#21
Thats a good question. Hitlers ideology was worse and he targeted certain groups of people just for being different. But hitler wasnt even the worst nazi, Himler, Eichman, and Mengale were. It was Himler who proposed the holocaust but hitler knew about everything and approved of it. Stalin on the other hand would stay up all night looking at lists of people and crossing the names out of the people he wanted to be killed. If thats not pure****ing evil i dont know what is.
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#23
Quote by bassboy 999
Well it comes down to opinion. I'll give you the facts.

Stalin killed some 6 - 7 million russians who opposed his rule. He was making himself an absolute ruler. Like an autocrat (Tsar Nicholas)
QUOTE]

ummm stalin killed some 21 million...


oooh thats a big call there mate. perhaps you're confused. 21 million russians died in the second world war. coincidence? i think not.
#25
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Why good sir, how would you like to settle this with a fistfight?

Kensai, just because you won my sig competition doesn't mean you have the authority to derail my thread.
#26
Quote by deadkenedy
I'm not sure, it's hard to compare two really really insane people. Like asking would you rather kiss your brother or sister, there's no real answer there, well there might be for some people, probably most of the people who frequent the pit. Always smells of incest here.

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#27
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that ****ing bitch you have as you avatar is worst than the two of them

rofl, stfu
#28
Quote by Archaon
I'd argue to the contrary. Hitler was one of the few politicians that WASN'T a puppet. He was pulling most of the strings in Germany. He had authority in many areas of the government. I mean, he even had authority in military decisions.

IMO all Hitler did was lay down the ideology and then let his ministers sort out the rest, ie; Himmler coming up with the Holocaust.
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#29
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Hitler was probably worse. If he was just alive today, you'd know what a d*ck he was.


Well they were both pretty big dicks
#31
Quote by MaXiMuse
Hitler killed five/six million people just because they were jewish. Stalin killed also some millions (Don`t know how much) because they were "against" him. Most of the time they weren`t but ended up in a goelag (can be compared to Auswitz and Sobibor etc...) Hitler said that he will make a great land of Germany, economicaly it went better with Germany and Stalin just destroyed Russia/Sovjet-Unie. But both are pure evil so you decide. Look on sites like wikipedia, but on Wikipedia itselfs the information can be changed by a neo-nazi so watch out.


58 million..
#32
Stalin killed 22 million Russian Christians, 'enemies of the state', etc., directly. Hitler killed 12 million Jews, dissidents, 'undesirables', etc, directly.

If numbers alone were used, Stalin wins. As for ideology, both of these monsters had some pretty f'd up ideas. The true scope of the effectiveness of the propaganda is the real trajedy. In both cases the citizens under the rule of these two were accepting these policies as 'furthering national goals'.

Interesting to note- Hitler, who is often credited with the 'final solution', the extermination of the European Jews, was also the descendant of a Jewish grandmother. Stalin was also Jewish. In both cases, innocent people were sacrificed at the altar of state, by who would certainly be classified as insane by any modern calculations. Which says something about humanity as a whole.
#34
Quote by Jakeylee111
IMO all Hitler did was lay down the ideology and then let his ministers sort out the rest, ie; Himmler coming up with the Holocaust.

yea that is true, staling did kill more people and it was more direct. Also allthough hitler brought germany out of a depression and gave it a great economy for a while it was still a ****hole after the war was over and the war was a result of his actions so you cant say he did good things for germany.
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#35
GAH all noobs please read my posts on first page. you all have your facts and ideas wrong.
#36
Quote by Archaon
I'd argue to the contrary. Hitler was one of the few politicians that WASN'T a puppet. He was pulling most of the strings in Germany. He had authority in many areas of the government. I mean, he even had authority in military decisions.



Hitler only gained direct army control in 1942, the point in which they began to lose

yes he had authority, but he didn't use it, he dossed about and allowed his 5/6 deputies do it all

he came up with no policies and merely signed off on other people's decisions

Hitler basically had a grand vision- take over all Slavic lands to make holiday resorts
-rid of the jews (not necessarily kill them)
-rid of other racially inferior races (gypsies, slavs and the disabled)
-restore German empire


others however did this for him


Stalin


i think he's worse for destroying the work of Lenin


but you must give a man credit for changing his name to 'Steel Man'
#38
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thankgod someone who knows.


+1

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GAH all noobs please read my posts on first page. you all have your facts and ideas wrong.


Use 40 posts per page man

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Kensai, just because you won my sig competition doesn't mean you have the authority to derail my thread.


Are you kidding me? That gave me all the authority in the world!

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