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#1
How come Gibsons these days are so god damn expensive? From what I've seen there being sold anywere from $1,500 all the way up to $5,000. Back when my dad was about my age everthing music related he bought was $100 bucks. Gibson Flying V, 1968 Fender Mustang, an old Fender Twin Reverb, all for $100 bucks. Good guitars are too expensive for intermediate players that don't have all that much to spend.

Do you know any sites that sell high quality guitars under $1000?
#2
Well Gibsons were bought out by Epiphone, so if you're looking to get something like a Gibson, I'd get an Epiphone. Otherwise, Yamaha's or Fenders are a good choice.
#3
^no, Gibson bought Epiphone

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#4
you mention your dad bought stuff cheap, don't forget the amount of price inflations that have happenned over the years...
there was a time when £10 was actually a lot of money for a wage, instead of £100/£200, so that's part of the reason
also, Gibsons have a high reputation, and people are willing to pay more for a well-known make of guitar compared to a guitar they've never heard of before
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#5
first, high quality doesnt necessarily equal gibson. I personally think that they are simply overpriced due to the fact that people will pay that much for it.

Ther are lots of good quality instruments for around 1000 dollars.

Now to my second point, DO YOU KNOW WHAT INFLATION IS???
#6
because you touch yourself at night
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#7
cos their good guitars. they may not be super tough looking like ESP but they still got some gas in the tank.
#8
Cause you touch yourself at n.... god damnit!
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#9
I think it's because they've been established as one of the best, so they can practically charge what they want
#10
Because you're paying for the gibson logo on the headstock...

those alone cost like $1000. The exact same guitar from epiphone would probably cost you around half of what it would with the gibson logo.
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#11
Bacause they say gobson on the headstock, and people are prepared to pay for it.
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#12
Don't forget about inflation, $100 in the 60s means $1000 today.
#14
the exact same guitar, but made by Epiphone would also weigh twice as much
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1) Made of a rare breed mahogoney (high end ones)
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5) People are willing to pay that much
6) You touch yourself .................
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#17
Schecter,esp,ibanez. All great for $500-800. All 3 have great guitars in that price range. With stuff like set necks, ebony boards, real emgs or seymour duncans, floyd rose if you like that. When you think about it,you can get 2 or 3 of these at the same price as one Les Paul. And if you plan on gigging out in a band at all having 2 or 3 is better than one. And I don't feel so bad beating the crap out of those instead of an overpriced Les Paul that I'd be worried about scratching, denting,dropping,and anything else that may come up at a show.
#18
They use expensive parts and people will pay more to get a brand who's name is synonymous with high-quality guitars.
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#20
Ok first, EVERYONE STOP FLAMING GIBSON , seriously, GIBSON=QUALITY, don't even try to say it, yes they are overpriced, but honestly not that much, lets pick on ESP as an example, ESP is cheap Chinese factory made guitars, they make a lot every month, Gibson's are hand made and take half a year to finish a batch.
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Ok first, EVERYONE STOP FLAMING GIBSON , seriously, GIBSON=QUALITY, don't even try to say it, yes they are overpriced, but honestly not that much, lets pick on ESP as an example, ESP is cheap Chinese factory made guitars, they make a lot every month, Gibson's are hand made and take half a year to finish a batch.


Get your facts right, nooblet, ESP's are expensive, Japanese made guitars.

Gibson have a great reputation, but that's what they're trading on at the moment, they're QC is nowhere near what it used to be. Also, they're hand FINISHED, not hand made....big difference. They also churn out loads of them, they're made in a factory, same as everyone else's guitars....there isn't some magical, dwarven workshop tucked away under a mountain in fairyland.
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Get your facts right, nooblet, ESP's are expensive, Japanese made guitars.

Gibson have a great reputation, but that's what they're trading on at the moment, they're QC is nowhere near what it used to be. Also, they're hand FINISHED, not hand made....big difference. They also churn out loads of them, they're made in a factory, same as everyone else's guitars....there isn't some magical, dwarven workshop tucked away under a mountain in fairyland.

Lol, ESP are cheap guitars.
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#23
Because they're Gibsons.
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Lol, ESP are cheap guitars.


Lol, yes they are...

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...that's the cheapest ESP I could find.
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Lol, ESP are cheap guitars.
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Lol, ESP are cheap guitars.


Lol, you're an idiot. Go check the price of an SV Standard and then come back here and try to say that. They AREN'T made in China, they are made in Japan, which rivals USA as one of the best places to have a guitar made in. Not to mention, ESP's quality is generally better than Gibson's IMO.

EDIT: Also, if anything, you're TRYING to talk smack about LTD, which is ESP's cheaper sub-company. They still aren't Chinese, they are Korean and Indonesian made, and any LTD guitar from the 400 series or higher is still a very high quality guitar for the price. Even some of the lower end series are worth a look.

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#27
Gibsons are overpriced because Jimmy Page and Slash play them. That's seriously the only reason. They have made some nice guitars in the past, but these days they're abysmal.
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#28
They're that expensive beacuse all prices have gone waaaaaay up. In Gibson's case, they've gone even higher, and their quality has gone waaaaay down. In the past, you could get a good LP Standard for $500 at most. Nowadays, if you want to get a good LP, you're going to spend over $3000 at least, for guitars of less quality.
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#29
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1968 Fender Mustang, an old Fender Twin Reverb, all for $100 bucks.


How old is you dad? Did he buy these things new? If so there's part of your answer; those things weren't vintage when he bought them.
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#31
They're expensive because they are made in the USA. Look at Jackson and the prices of their higher end models made in Japan vs the USA made ones. Its really simple. The country its manufactured in directly effects the price of the guitar, but not necessarily the quality. Factories outside of the US are generally cheaper to maintain and cheaper labor. USA != higher quality. You're mostly just paying more because THEY have to pay more to manufacture here.
#32
I read something about inflation rates increasing in europe, this means that it might become cheaper to buy from america right?
#33
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You're mostly just paying more because THEY have to pay more to manufacture here.



That's what I came in here to say. The reason Epiphone can make just as good a guitar as Gibson for half as much is because they're made in China and Japan for the Elitist models. They will pay considerably less in both of those countries to make the guitar, and shipping it over here in Hugh Ass quantities doesn't cost much at all, thus you pay less. Certainly some money goes to the name on the Gibson headstock, but remember, they're in business to make money. Still awesome guitars.
#34
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I read something about inflation rates increasing in europe, this means that it might become cheaper to buy from america right?


Probably not really, once you pay for shipping and import duty the price difference is so negligible you might as well buy in your own country and that's all onyl if you can find someone willing to ship outside the US.
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#35
Because it says "Gibson"
And they know they can get away with being overpriced.
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#36
you got to look at what all they use on the guitars like the wood, electronics, and pups.. and not to mention the tunning machines and all that stuff soo they sell there stuff by how much work they put into it and what kind of stuff they put into it

and your dad at your age probably couldn't aford anything like you cuz $100 back then was like in the $1000 these days
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it IS cheaper!

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#38
1.Back when a good guitar did cost $100, how much did people earn do you think? $100 was more than $1000 is for most people today. You can't compare it like that.

And 2, Gibson is NOT high quality, you can get ****ty Gibsons, many Les Paul Studios has horrible quality, and Standard and Classics are not worth what they cost compared to other guitars. But, of course, it's a Gibson! People buy them because of their reputation and what they have been in the past. I will buy a Gibson sometime in the future when I have money for a Standard or better. But they're still overpriced. But I will own one, just because it's a Gibson!

Quality guitar for under $1000 you say? Look at the new Hagströms, they play like a dream, great value for the money ($600 but better than Gibson for $1500). Fender, Ltd and some more are also good. Just don't be a fool and look around you for more than Gibsons and the most famous brands!
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1.Back when a good guitar did cost $100, how much did people earn do you think? $100 was more than $1000 is for most people today. You can't compare it like that.

And 2, Gibson is NOT high quality, you can get ****ty Gibsons, many Les Paul Studios has horrible quality, and Standard and Classics are not worth what they cost compared to other guitars. But, of course, it's a Gibson! People buy them because of their reputation and what they have been in the past. I will buy a Gibson sometime in the future when I have money for a Standard or better. But they're still overpriced. But I will own one, just because it's a Gibson!

Quality guitar for under $1000 you say? Look at the new Hagströms, they play like a dream, great value for the money ($600 but better than Gibson for $1500). Fender, Ltd and some more are also good. Just don't be a fool and look around you for more than Gibsons and the most famous brands!



The Gibson sound and feel is to be considered, even if they do put out a lot of bad guitars (and by that I mean the specific guitar and not the model).

Still, you're right, they are not bang for your buck.

EDIT: I'd still spend the money on a Standard, same as yourself, and that's how they get by charging what they charge.
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and it's great


I hope you mean the PRS SE series, because the PRS's that most people think of are nowhere near "low prices."
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