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So my band and I have started to record (for the second time now). My question being to those who have used this, or have a decent amount of knowledge about it: Would a USB interface, such to that of the Line 6 TonePort or the Behringer U-CONTROL, give me quality results?

I'm VERY limited to cash (damn this thing they call "college"), so this seemed like the best approach to getting a decent sound.

ALSO!!! And this is really the main reason for this thread: Can I use any USB interface, such as those I mentioned above, and put them into Amplitube, Ampfarm, etc.? Or does programs such as Amplitube need a specific USB driver? I couldn't seem to find the answers on Musicfriend.

*Last question(s):

- If this would be the best approach, any recommendations other than those I have listed? (Under $80, preferably)

- Does a 16 bit sample rate and a 24 bit rate really differ that much in quality? I've heard mixed reviews.


Thanks guys.
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#2
They won't be audiophile quality but they're certainly usable. Aren't Amplitube and Ampfarm plugins? In which case any audio input should work.

24 bit does have a noticeable increase in quality to my ears - but most music ends up at 16 bit anyway so I don't often bother.
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#3
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For $80 you can probably get a used m-audio Fast Track USB, or if you only need one input, a Toneport GX which is now $50 at MF.

Amplitube will work with any USB interface. Stay away from behringer products though, they dont do well with recording gear.

DONT get a mixer, you dont need one....(everyone thinks you do for recording...)

Once you get that pick up a cheap dynamic mic if you want some vocals and run that into the interface. I would suggest downloading and learning Reaper, its a great program at an awesome price. You can use it for free but its suggested that you buy the license after a while...
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Stay away from behringer products though, they dont do well with recording gear.


You won't exactly get Mutt Lange sonic quality with it, no, but it is perfectly useable.

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DONT get a mixer, you dont need one....(everyone thinks you do for recording...)


Yes and no, depending on your other gear and your approach. I find mine *very* useful.

There are many advantages of going 24-bit over 16 if you can get away with it. Do it, if you can.

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I find a mixer usable under only a few situations in a studio.

1) Monitoring
2) Analog recording
3) No preamps or correct inputs on interface
4) You have mics but not enough cash for an 8 input interface but need to record those 8 mics in one take for something like a drum set.

Everything else, its more cost efficient to get a larger interface like about 8 inputs and mix with the software either using the mouse or a control surface.


I never said don't buy Behringer gear, I simply said they don't do well with recording which you backed up with your statement. But yes it will work...
I tried a few Behringer products over the years and have found their mixers to be noisy but I have their KX1200 amp and like it, although I would not trust it for live use out of the studio which is where mine stays all the time.
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Everything else, its more cost efficient to get a larger interface like about 8 inputs and mix with the software either using the mouse or a control surface.


Right. So long as your interface has all the new and advanced features. I have a Delta 1010, which has plenty of I/O, but no preamps, and not much versatility in the software panel for things like monitor cue mixes, etc. I need a mixer for all that.

If I was on the market now for an interface, I'd look for something like the MOTU 828 MkIII or the new M-Audio interface with the Oxygen pres built in or something like that. The new TC Electronic one looks pretty cool too. It fits all the advanced flexibility that I need and when you consider that you'll spend about $600 on a mixer that does all that, the all-in-one units don't look quite so expensive.

The mixer I used for most of the tracks on our CD is a Behringer UB2442-FX-PRO. We've had no complaints about sound quality. Part of the trick is being able to set input levels properly and other gain-staging considerations. Can you get better pres? Of course. Are they usable nonethelss? Yes.

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#7
Thanks guys.

As for a large interface... My band and I don't necessarily need one. We have a decent mixer, and we just went straight into the computer while recording drums. I mean, yes, I would love to be able to control each mic afterwards, but we've gotten a decent sound using this approach, so we figured, why invest in something that is sooooo expensive, if we are just going to use it a hand full of times. (I know people are going to say: NOT TRUE!!!) But it really is the case with us. We're recording our handful of songs and playing one or two shows before I move... again.

I'll let you know how it turns out. Maybe even write a review, on UG, on whatever I decide on buying; possibly help a few others out if they have the same question in the future.


Thanks again.
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