#1
Im gonna buy a new guitar soon, and being a 16 year old, i dont have much money (max 450) and was wondering if the les paul special II is a decent guitar, here is the ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-2-in-4-colours_W0QQitemZ230240888438QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or to spend a bit more and get this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Epiphone-LP100-les-paul-guitar_W0QQitemZ330227409602QQihZ014QQcategoryZ33034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

any advice would be welcome
#2
My friend has a sg special II, and he thinks its really ****ty, lots of fret buzz and the strings feel abnormally thight and its pretty hard for him to play over the 12:th fret. I don't think the special II series have that good quality control...
#3
They're good for just starting out, but if you're wanting it to be an upgrade get something else.

edit: out of the two i would get the second.
#4
Go for an LP standard, you won't regret it. Or whoever is buying the guitar.
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#5
Both suck, esp. the Special. You should get the standard.
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#6
Please save your money and buy something you won't get sick of in a month.
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#7
Do you want a good guitar for the price or an LP?
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#8
If you're looking into LP's on ebay and you're on a budget look up the Agile AL series, as their manufacturer Rondo Music has an ebay store. You'll get a LP copy that is significantly cheaper than an Epiphone, but at MUCH better quality than a Les Paul Special 2 or a LP-100, at least that is what I have read around here. I'm currently ordering a AL-2000!
#9
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If you're looking into LP's on ebay and you're on a budget look up the Agile AL series, as their manufacturer Rondo Music has an ebay store. You'll get a LP copy that is significantly cheaper than an Epiphone, but at MUCH better quality than a Les Paul Special 2 or a LP-100, at least that is what I have read around here. I'm currently ordering a AL-2000!


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#11
I would say that if you are going for one of those two, then get the special. It isnt too bad for beginners. but if you can wait, I would suggest waiting until you have enough money for a standard...
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#12
Don't buy an LTD 50 series.
There was a few Epiphone LP standards in the quokka this week although they were all around the 500 - 700 mark, although you can always bargain in the quokka so ring around and see how you go. My old guitar teacher has guitars made for him from the Epiphone Factory but just puts a different brand on the headstock. So you could get an Epi LP standard for about $350 I think thats what he sells them for. I could find out if you were really interested.
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#14
The Standard is the minimum you should buy. No exceptions. If you have to, just wait and save up more money - you actually save more money in the long run by buying one decent guitar now, rather than buying something crap now and then having to upgrade in six months.


That said, you're on a Fender Strat currently? Then a Special-II or LP-100 will be a big step down in terms of quality. An Epi Standard will keep you on roughly the same quality level as a lower-level mexican Fender, but that's about as good as you'll get.
#16
LP special II any good? No.
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#17
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The Standard is the minimum you should buy. No exceptions. If you have to, just wait and save up more money - you actually save more money in the long run by buying one decent guitar now, rather than buying something crap now and then having to upgrade in six months.


That said, you're on a Fender Strat currently? Then a Special-II or LP-100 will be a big step down in terms of quality. An Epi Standard will keep you on roughly the same quality level as a lower-level mexican Fender, but that's about as good as you'll get.


Epi Standard > Fender MIM

also, look into Epi G-400s they're good for the price.
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#18
No it's not good, the Standard is about the double, but maybe ten times better. And about another $200 you get a Hagström Swede/Super Swede that beats all Epis easily (not sure of the Elitists, never played or seen one) and Gibson LP Studios. So I would advice you to save up for a Hagström as it would be better for you in the end.
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#19
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the OP is in australia.


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#20
Only you can decide if you like it, despite what everyone else says. I've played these alongside Standards and Customs and it actually does sound good. I love them.
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#21
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Only you can decide if you like it, despite what everyone else says. I've played these alongside Standards and Customs and it actually does sound good. I love them.


Did you also play the customs and standards through your Man Genital? (MG)
#22
yes I did, and through a DSL.
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#24
I have had a Epiphone LP special for a year and a half and have not regretted buying it. There is nothing wrong with it, and it has been working very well for me. I would recommend it to anyone who is looking for his/her first guitar.