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#1
ESP LTD FM-408

It looks kind of cool, but does anyone else think this is kind of too much?

What are your thoughts on this guitar???
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#2
Everything but the wood is teh br00talz.

On a more serious note, I think 8 strings is overkill, 7 is good but 8 is too much.
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an abomination. It's like a BC Rich had sex with an Ibanez, had an abortion, and it survived on the side of the road eating roadkill and drinking it's own urine.

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#3
it looks cool, idk how you would play it
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#5
Go for it. Thats 2 strings more then you had before, :P
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#6
How could a wider range of notes be overkill? I've never looked at a piano and said "Damn!!! do we really need all these keys?" If I had the cash I'd totaly get one...
#7
Quote by -GuitarHero-
Go for it. Thats 2 strings more then you had before, :P

oh no...i'm not buying it, i'd have to think about even getting a 7 string if i wanted to.

I'm getting an ESP Eclipse II, good ol' 6 string. Dang... now it feels puny to say i have a 6 string.
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#9
Quote by david_highland
How could a wider range of notes be overkill? I've never looked at a piano and said "Damn!!! do we really need all these keys?" If I had the cash I'd totaly get one...
Well that's because guitars and pianos are different instruments, you usually play both "bass and lead/rhythm" on a piano but a guitar is meant only for lead/rhythm.
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That's....


an abomination. It's like a BC Rich had sex with an Ibanez, had an abortion, and it survived on the side of the road eating roadkill and drinking it's own urine.

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#10
Quote by DSOTM80
Great another moron with 8 strings just chugging on the lowest 2

You obviously did not watched the video.
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Most metal guitar ever. Period.
#11
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Great another moron with 8 strings just chugging on the lowest 2

It is not be in the video and I hope you weren't calling me a moron....cause I will call me dad.
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#14
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Well that's because guitars and pianos are different instruments, you usually play both "bass and lead/rhythm" on a piano but a guitar is meant only for lead/rhythm.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbndgwfG22k Who cares what a guitar is "supposed to be" I care what a guitar is, and wether or not you're playing lead or rhythm, or both, higher/lower octaves is never a bad thing.
#17
I think it sucks, sound more like a bass to me. And 90% of the people playing it will only use the 4 low strings anyway.
But cool if you can make good music with it and take advantage of the extra notes without sacrificing the others. Like that Don Maloney guy
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#18
They seem cool, but I don't like any that are on the market as of now. The ESP Stef Carpenter sigs are nice, but I don't really like the bridge or the pick-up alignment. The Ibanez one I like a lot, but I'm not a fan of basswood guitars, especially for 7's or 8's. If Ibanez were to get there **** together and make Meshuggah Signature guitars, I'd be on that in a second. Alder or Mahogany body, 30 inch scale length, lundgren pickups, my god. That'd be just amazing.
And on that ESP, the 25.5 inch scale length would not do that low F# justice, the intonation would be wack. I think that one is meant to have a high A if anything.
EDIT: Just read the standard tuning on the site. That would be floppy as hell.
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#23
Quote by TheShred201
I'm considering the FM408, as the scale length makes it more suitable for a low B to high A tuning, which I desire more in an 8 string than a low F# to high E.

true, but if you buy an 8-string to play Meshuggah, go Blackmachine or something
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#24
the fact that a blackmachine 8 would cost about 5-6 thousand dollars and the fm408 costs 1 thousand kind of kills your argument--if you can afford a blackmachine, why would you be looking at ESP LTD's. If I could get a blackmachine I would. Though i don't want it to play meshuggah.
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the fact that a blackmachine 8 would cost about 5-6 thousand dollars and the fm408 costs 1 thousand kind of kills your argument--if you can afford a blackmachine, why would you be looking at ESP LTD's. If I could get a blackmachine I would. Though i don't want it to play meshuggah.

well... I just picked a blackmachine because that was the only guitar brand I could think of atm which has extended scales. So if I say it like this instead "If you plan to play Meshuggah, look for an 8-string guitar with a longer scale than 25,5. preferably 27+"

mkay?
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#26
I personally believe 8-string guitars to be a little overboard. 7-strings are understandable, but 8-string is just getting into the "let's get more strings on there!" syndrome that companies such as Ibanez and ESP are starting to get into these days.
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#27
8, 9, 10, 11 strings... who cares if it looks cool or not? The only thing that matter is that you have purpose for those extra strings.
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#29
^^^^Okay. I just thought it was a bit of a jump.
^^^Actually, 8 strings originated in jazz guitar playing. Companies have been starting to release them as certain influential bands and artists use them occasionally. People want to be what their favorite guitarist plays, and for some that means that they need 8 strings.
^^No one ever said they look cool. Although, I personally feel that they should only be purchased by people who have a true use for the extra strings.
#30
8 is overkill (for my style, at least), 7 is great, and 6 is great.
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#32
i wouldn't go for an 8 string unless ur in a band and can make up ur own riffs, cuz ur not gonna find to many songs that use an 8 string to do covers or try riffs from or w/e. Also, id only go for it if u play grunge ir heavy, heavy metal, otherwise i really don't think ur gonna need 8 strings.
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#34
I kind of want to try an 8 string, but on the other hand, you only have to tune down 2 steps on a 7 string to get the same effect. The only use for the 8th string is to keep your highs. Chances are, if you're playing that low, and you're not Rusty Cooley, you're probably not flying up and down the fretboard.
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#36
Quote by Dog454
Chances are, if you're playing that low, and you're not Rusty Cooley, you're probably not flying up and down the fretboard.


Exactly what i was going to say, but like others have said if you make use of them all in a musical fashion why not?

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#37
Quote by cielmort
Well that's because guitars and pianos are different instruments, you usually play both "bass and lead/rhythm" on a piano but a guitar is meant only for lead/rhythm.


So you're saying as guitarists we should be limited.

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I want an 8 string bigtime.
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#38
8 strings would be awesome to have.. my 7 is fun for tap songs left hand does bass lines, right hand does melody lines.

but another string! so much ROOM! hard to say if i'd tune it to F# tho..
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#39
well i think it would make chording harder. so id never get one. but i guess if you are going to use a lot of power chords and soloing, i guess there's nothing wrong with it. plus i reckon the neck would be uncomfortable. but im more of a thumb over the top kind of player. so i guess in short, its not really my style but still kinda cool.
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